Build a Team 17.0 Discussion Thread #3 (NBA Champion will be announced Thursday 7PM)

[Slicin N Dicin]

still curious for a basketball reason as to why our team didn't make the playoffs - all i got was "untraditional depth chart"

it is a little confusing to see what you're trying to do with that depth chart. what's your rotations? i'll try to give some criticsm based off that

Real quick one that bwgood and I came up w/ to send to br7 for the sim - not going to change it up now since there's no point, but somewhat of a baseline to work with.

Beverley (34), Frazier (12)
Barton (34), Baker (12)
Crowder (20), Ennis, (28)
Giannis (21), Crowder (17), Arthur (14)
Noguiera (15), O'Quinn (14), Giannis (12), Mejri (7)

and the write-up (kept at 250 based on bish's post) - just for more context.

The team was built around Giannis to surround him with 3 point shooting, high IQ players who move without the ball on offense. On defense the team plays with a grit and grind mentality combined with positionless versatility that match-up well against premier wings and guards. The 3 man big rotation can handle premier bigs and provide excellent help defense vs the pick-n-roll to compliment the perimeter players.

The small ball lineup this team can trot out supports the defensive versatility, while maintaining the top tier 3 point shooting that fits best around Giannis. Surrounding Giannis (23.5 pts/8.7 rebs/5.5 asst) is a supporting cast that moves well off ball, cutting to basket, and is insanely efficient from deep:

Crowder: 41% on 2.3m/5.6a
Beverley: 39% on 1.7m/4.3a
Barton: 38% on 1.4m/3.6a
Ennis: 41% on 1m/2.4a
Arthur: 49% on 1.5m/3.1a

Nogueira provides elite rim protection along with KOQ. Both defend the low post 1 on 1 w/ no help, while also providing the pick and roll help defense and rebounding needed from the 5 spot. Mejri can attack the boards and intimidate down low. On offense, Nogueira can operate on the pick n roll with Giannis surrounded by 3 pt shooters while O'Quinn can run the pick-n-pop.

Frazier and Baker give relief to help bring the ball up and initiate the offense, while fitting in with the identity of the team.

[br7knicks]

that said, barton is stuck on a team where SG/SF is pretty log jammed, and may actually produce if it were just he and giannis.

[Slicin N Dicin]

Thank you guys for the feedback - i just wanted something in-depth w/ actual basketball reasons. Really do appreciate the constructive criticism for bwgood and I. We came to a good synergy based on the visions we had - I do agree w/ the points made though. imo - i thought that would bite us in the ass come playoff time, not earlier.

[ibraheim718]

still curious for a basketball reason as to why our team didn't make the playoffs - all i got was "untraditional depth chart"

it is a little confusing to see what you're trying to do with that depth chart. what's your rotations? i'll try to give some criticsm based off that

Real quick one that bwgood and I came up w/ to send to br7 for the sim - not going to change it up now since there's no point, but somewhat of a baseline to work with.

Beverley (34), Frazier (12)
Barton (34), Baker (12)
Crowder (20), Ennis, (28)
Giannis (21), Crowder (17), Arthur (14)
Noguiera (15), O'Quinn (14), Giannis (12), Mejri (7)

and the write-up (kept at 250 based on bish's post) - just for more context.

The team was built around Giannis to surround him with 3 point shooting, high IQ players who move without the ball on offense. On defense the team plays with a grit and grind mentality combined with positionless versatility that match-up well against premier wings and guards. The 3 man big rotation can handle premier bigs and provide excellent help defense vs the pick-n-roll to compliment the perimeter players.

The small ball lineup this team can trot out supports the defensive versatility, while maintaining the top tier 3 point shooting that fits best around Giannis. Surrounding Giannis (23.5 pts/8.7 rebs/5.5 asst) is a supporting cast that moves well off ball, cutting to basket, and is insanely efficient from deep:

Crowder: 41% on 2.3m/5.6a
Beverley: 39% on 1.7m/4.3a
Barton: 38% on 1.4m/3.6a
Ennis: 41% on 1m/2.4a
Arthur: 49% on 1.5m/3.1a

Nogueira provides elite rim protection along with KOQ. Both defend the low post 1 on 1 w/ no help, while also providing the pick and roll help defense and rebounding needed from the 5 spot. Mejri can attack the boards and intimidate down low. On offense, Nogueira can operate on the pick n roll with Giannis surrounded by 3 pt shooters while O'Quinn can run the pick-n-pop.

Frazier and Baker give relief to help bring the ball up and initiate the offense, while fitting in with the identity of the team.

I think your best line up would've been...

Giannis
Beverley (Bev guards 1's)
Barton
Crowder
O'quinn

Had you presented me just that I would have probably had you in. The other thing you're not thinking of is I had you close to the playoffs I just wasn't crazy about the presentation probably because after doing this so many times I've gotten used to the regular way of doing rotations.. we've all been doing it that way.

I just wouldn't take this that roughly. It's an imperfect game.

[ibraheim718]

that said, barton is stuck on a team where SG/SF is pretty log jammed, and may actually produce if it were just he and giannis.

That's what it looked like to me.. I had to rearrange his line ups in my head. Maybe he'll see that I wasn't the only one who thought that. I had basketball reasons why I didn't like his team as much as the teams above him even though he's kind of hammering away at me inferring I didn't.

[Slicin N Dicin]

it is a little confusing to see what you're trying to do with that depth chart. what's your rotations? i'll try to give some criticsm based off that

Real quick one that bwgood and I came up w/ to send to br7 for the sim - not going to change it up now since there's no point, but somewhat of a baseline to work with.

Beverley (34), Frazier (12)
Barton (34), Baker (12)
Crowder (20), Ennis, (28)
Giannis (21), Crowder (17), Arthur (14)
Noguiera (15), O'Quinn (14), Giannis (12), Mejri (7)

and the write-up (kept at 250 based on bish's post) - just for more context.

The team was built around Giannis to surround him with 3 point shooting, high IQ players who move without the ball on offense. On defense the team plays with a grit and grind mentality combined with positionless versatility that match-up well against premier wings and guards. The 3 man big rotation can handle premier bigs and provide excellent help defense vs the pick-n-roll to compliment the perimeter players.

The small ball lineup this team can trot out supports the defensive versatility, while maintaining the top tier 3 point shooting that fits best around Giannis. Surrounding Giannis (23.5 pts/8.7 rebs/5.5 asst) is a supporting cast that moves well off ball, cutting to basket, and is insanely efficient from deep:

Crowder: 41% on 2.3m/5.6a
Beverley: 39% on 1.7m/4.3a
Barton: 38% on 1.4m/3.6a
Ennis: 41% on 1m/2.4a
Arthur: 49% on 1.5m/3.1a

Nogueira provides elite rim protection along with KOQ. Both defend the low post 1 on 1 w/ no help, while also providing the pick and roll help defense and rebounding needed from the 5 spot. Mejri can attack the boards and intimidate down low. On offense, Nogueira can operate on the pick n roll with Giannis surrounded by 3 pt shooters while O'Quinn can run the pick-n-pop.

Frazier and Baker give relief to help bring the ball up and initiate the offense, while fitting in with the identity of the team.

I think your best line up would've been...

Giannis
Beverley (Bev guards 1's)
Barton
Crowder
O'quinn

Had you presented me just that I would have probably had you in. The other thing you're not thinking of is I had you close to the playoffs I just wasn't crazy about the presentation probably because after doing this so many times I've gotten used to the regular way of doing rotations.. we've all been doing it that way.

I just wouldn't take this that roughly. It's an imperfect game.

With the league going positionless - bwgood and I had a long back and forth between how we should present our team - that's why i feel the write-ups are so important. The vision was to have a versatile line-up that can go against a variety of match-ups. To me the vision behind why a roster was picked the way it was is important.

[Slicin N Dicin]

that said, barton is stuck on a team where SG/SF is pretty log jammed, and may actually produce if it were just he and giannis.

That's what it looked like to me.. I had to rearrange his line ups in my head. Maybe he'll see that I wasn't the only one who thought that. I had basketball reasons why I didn't like his team as much as the teams above him even though he's kind of hammering away at me inferring I didn't.

not hammering away - i asked you why you didnt have our team in the playoffs and you simply replied about the depth chart..had you presented basketball reasons, my comments would have been drastically different. That's all man. Nothing personal at all - but you didn't present any basketball reasons originally.

As i mentioned before..this is my first BAT - probably why i'm more animated about it all if anything.

[3toheadmelo]

still curious for a basketball reason as to why our team didn't make the playoffs - all i got was "untraditional depth chart"

it is a little confusing to see what you're trying to do with that depth chart. what's your rotations? i'll try to give some criticsm based off that

Real quick one that bwgood and I came up w/ to send to br7 for the sim - not going to change it up now since there's no point, but somewhat of a baseline to work with.

Beverley (34), Frazier (12)
Barton (34), Baker (12)
Crowder (20), Ennis, (28)
Giannis (21), Crowder (17), Arthur (14)
Noguiera (15), O'Quinn (14), Giannis (12), Mejri (7)

and the write-up (kept at 250 based on bish's post) - just for more context.

The team was built around Giannis to surround him with 3 point shooting, high IQ players who move without the ball on offense. On defense the team plays with a grit and grind mentality combined with positionless versatility that match-up well against premier wings and guards. The 3 man big rotation can handle premier bigs and provide excellent help defense vs the pick-n-roll to compliment the perimeter players.

The small ball lineup this team can trot out supports the defensive versatility, while maintaining the top tier 3 point shooting that fits best around Giannis. Surrounding Giannis (23.5 pts/8.7 rebs/5.5 asst) is a supporting cast that moves well off ball, cutting to basket, and is insanely efficient from deep:

Crowder: 41% on 2.3m/5.6a
Beverley: 39% on 1.7m/4.3a
Barton: 38% on 1.4m/3.6a
Ennis: 41% on 1m/2.4a
Arthur: 49% on 1.5m/3.1a

Nogueira provides elite rim protection along with KOQ. Both defend the low post 1 on 1 w/ no help, while also providing the pick and roll help defense and rebounding needed from the 5 spot. Mejri can attack the boards and intimidate down low. On offense, Nogueira can operate on the pick n roll with Giannis surrounded by 3 pt shooters while O'Quinn can run the pick-n-pop.

Frazier and Baker give relief to help bring the ball up and initiate the offense, while fitting in with the identity of the team.

well this makes it a lot better to see what's going on
i actually like this team a lot, beverly,giannis,barton, crowder is a pretty nice lineup. very solid defense. tim fraizer is also a very good backup point guard along with good defense from baker. only knock on your team may be the center, cause he's not a starter in this league, probably shouldve started o'quinn i guess. but i think it's a pretty solid team actually. i think the way you presented your depth chart really hurt you. it sucks because that shouldn't be a legit excuse to stop you from making the playoffs but i think in this case it did. if the judges couldn't comprehend your team, they should've at least pm'd you about it.
this is a playoff team in my eyes

[Slicin N Dicin]

That's also why i can't believe it when someone says write-ups aren't important - they really do make sense. some people put actual thought into it to explain their teams..ya know.

[Slicin N Dicin]

it is a little confusing to see what you're trying to do with that depth chart. what's your rotations? i'll try to give some criticsm based off that

Real quick one that bwgood and I came up w/ to send to br7 for the sim - not going to change it up now since there's no point, but somewhat of a baseline to work with.

Beverley (34), Frazier (12)
Barton (34), Baker (12)
Crowder (20), Ennis, (28)
Giannis (21), Crowder (17), Arthur (14)
Noguiera (15), O'Quinn (14), Giannis (12), Mejri (7)

and the write-up (kept at 250 based on bish's post) - just for more context.

The team was built around Giannis to surround him with 3 point shooting, high IQ players who move without the ball on offense. On defense the team plays with a grit and grind mentality combined with positionless versatility that match-up well against premier wings and guards. The 3 man big rotation can handle premier bigs and provide excellent help defense vs the pick-n-roll to compliment the perimeter players.

The small ball lineup this team can trot out supports the defensive versatility, while maintaining the top tier 3 point shooting that fits best around Giannis. Surrounding Giannis (23.5 pts/8.7 rebs/5.5 asst) is a supporting cast that moves well off ball, cutting to basket, and is insanely efficient from deep:

Crowder: 41% on 2.3m/5.6a
Beverley: 39% on 1.7m/4.3a
Barton: 38% on 1.4m/3.6a
Ennis: 41% on 1m/2.4a
Arthur: 49% on 1.5m/3.1a

Nogueira provides elite rim protection along with KOQ. Both defend the low post 1 on 1 w/ no help, while also providing the pick and roll help defense and rebounding needed from the 5 spot. Mejri can attack the boards and intimidate down low. On offense, Nogueira can operate on the pick n roll with Giannis surrounded by 3 pt shooters while O'Quinn can run the pick-n-pop.

Frazier and Baker give relief to help bring the ball up and initiate the offense, while fitting in with the identity of the team.

well this makes it a lot better to see what's going on
i actually like this team a lot, beverly,giannis,barton, crowder is a pretty nice lineup. very solid defense. tim fraizer is also a very good backup point guard along with good defense from baker. only knock on your team may be the center, cause he's not a starter in this league, probably shouldve started o'quinn i guess. but i think it's a pretty solid team actually. i think the way you presented your depth chart really hurt you. it sucks because that shouldn't be a legit excuse to stop you from making the playoffs but i think in this case it did. if the judges couldn't comprehend your team, they should've at least pm'd you about it.
this is a playoff team in my eyes

thanks man - that's why i kept hammering away that write-ups are important when explaining your vision.

[ibraheim718]

Real quick one that bwgood and I came up w/ to send to br7 for the sim - not going to change it up now since there's no point, but somewhat of a baseline to work with.

Beverley (34), Frazier (12)
Barton (34), Baker (12)
Crowder (20), Ennis, (28)
Giannis (21), Crowder (17), Arthur (14)
Noguiera (15), O'Quinn (14), Giannis (12), Mejri (7)

and the write-up (kept at 250 based on bish's post) - just for more context.

The team was built around Giannis to surround him with 3 point shooting, high IQ players who move without the ball on offense. On defense the team plays with a grit and grind mentality combined with positionless versatility that match-up well against premier wings and guards. The 3 man big rotation can handle premier bigs and provide excellent help defense vs the pick-n-roll to compliment the perimeter players.

The small ball lineup this team can trot out supports the defensive versatility, while maintaining the top tier 3 point shooting that fits best around Giannis. Surrounding Giannis (23.5 pts/8.7 rebs/5.5 asst) is a supporting cast that moves well off ball, cutting to basket, and is insanely efficient from deep:

Crowder: 41% on 2.3m/5.6a
Beverley: 39% on 1.7m/4.3a
Barton: 38% on 1.4m/3.6a
Ennis: 41% on 1m/2.4a
Arthur: 49% on 1.5m/3.1a

Nogueira provides elite rim protection along with KOQ. Both defend the low post 1 on 1 w/ no help, while also providing the pick and roll help defense and rebounding needed from the 5 spot. Mejri can attack the boards and intimidate down low. On offense, Nogueira can operate on the pick n roll with Giannis surrounded by 3 pt shooters while O'Quinn can run the pick-n-pop.

Frazier and Baker give relief to help bring the ball up and initiate the offense, while fitting in with the identity of the team.

I think your best line up would've been...

Giannis
Beverley (Bev guards 1's)
Barton
Crowder
O'quinn

Had you presented me just that I would have probably had you in. The other thing you're not thinking of is I had you close to the playoffs I just wasn't crazy about the presentation probably because after doing this so many times I've gotten used to the regular way of doing rotations.. we've all been doing it that way.

I just wouldn't take this that roughly. It's an imperfect game.

With the league going positionless - bwgood and I had a long back and forth between how we should present our team - that's why i feel the write-ups are so important. The vision was to have a versatile line-up that can go against a variety of match-ups. To me the vision behind why a roster was picked the way it was is important.

But I got most of the other GM's vision assessing the team the same way. I just didn't get yours. I could've studied your write up for hours and I still would've thought to myself why hasn't he outright come out and said that Giannis is going to be playing the 1 like he does in Milwaukee?

[br7knicks]

Thank you guys for the feedback - i just wanted something in-depth w/ actual basketball reasons. Really do appreciate the constructive criticism for bwgood and I. We came to a good synergy based on the visions we had - I do agree w/ the points made though. imo - i thought that would bite us in the ass come playoff time, not earlier.

dude, you also have to factor in that you were in a VERY deep western conference.


us in the east had all the big names, but the west had just too many great teams.

[ibraheim718]

Real quick one that bwgood and I came up w/ to send to br7 for the sim - not going to change it up now since there's no point, but somewhat of a baseline to work with.

Beverley (34), Frazier (12)
Barton (34), Baker (12)
Crowder (20), Ennis, (28)
Giannis (21), Crowder (17), Arthur (14)
Noguiera (15), O'Quinn (14), Giannis (12), Mejri (7)

and the write-up (kept at 250 based on bish's post) - just for more context.

The team was built around Giannis to surround him with 3 point shooting, high IQ players who move without the ball on offense. On defense the team plays with a grit and grind mentality combined with positionless versatility that match-up well against premier wings and guards. The 3 man big rotation can handle premier bigs and provide excellent help defense vs the pick-n-roll to compliment the perimeter players.

The small ball lineup this team can trot out supports the defensive versatility, while maintaining the top tier 3 point shooting that fits best around Giannis. Surrounding Giannis (23.5 pts/8.7 rebs/5.5 asst) is a supporting cast that moves well off ball, cutting to basket, and is insanely efficient from deep:

Crowder: 41% on 2.3m/5.6a
Beverley: 39% on 1.7m/4.3a
Barton: 38% on 1.4m/3.6a
Ennis: 41% on 1m/2.4a
Arthur: 49% on 1.5m/3.1a

Nogueira provides elite rim protection along with KOQ. Both defend the low post 1 on 1 w/ no help, while also providing the pick and roll help defense and rebounding needed from the 5 spot. Mejri can attack the boards and intimidate down low. On offense, Nogueira can operate on the pick n roll with Giannis surrounded by 3 pt shooters while O'Quinn can run the pick-n-pop.

Frazier and Baker give relief to help bring the ball up and initiate the offense, while fitting in with the identity of the team.

well this makes it a lot better to see what's going on
i actually like this team a lot, beverly,giannis,barton, crowder is a pretty nice lineup. very solid defense. tim fraizer is also a very good backup point guard along with good defense from baker. only knock on your team may be the center, cause he's not a starter in this league, probably shouldve started o'quinn i guess. but i think it's a pretty solid team actually. i think the way you presented your depth chart really hurt you. it sucks because that shouldn't be a legit excuse to stop you from making the playoffs but i think in this case it did. if the judges couldn't comprehend your team, they should've at least pm'd you about it.
this is a playoff team in my eyes

thanks man - that's why i kept hammering away that write-ups are important when explaining your vision.

They aren't. I've played in BAT's where "winners" never even submitted a write up. Trust me you shouldn't have to explain to me a guy who's been watching basketball for 30 years what you're trying to do and why you're trying to do it.. I should be able to see it easily.

[ibraheim718]

Write ups to me in BAT are like adding icing to the cake. We used to call it a pimp thread.

[br7knicks]

ok, i'm almost done setting up the easts' teams. too tired and drunk. will try to finish tomorrow-ish

[Slicin N Dicin]

well this makes it a lot better to see what's going on
i actually like this team a lot, beverly,giannis,barton, crowder is a pretty nice lineup. very solid defense. tim fraizer is also a very good backup point guard along with good defense from baker. only knock on your team may be the center, cause he's not a starter in this league, probably shouldve started o'quinn i guess. but i think it's a pretty solid team actually. i think the way you presented your depth chart really hurt you. it sucks because that shouldn't be a legit excuse to stop you from making the playoffs but i think in this case it did. if the judges couldn't comprehend your team, they should've at least pm'd you about it.
this is a playoff team in my eyes

thanks man - that's why i kept hammering away that write-ups are important when explaining your vision.

They aren't. I've played in BAT's where "winners" never even submitted a write up. Trust me you shouldn't have to explain to me a guy who's been watching basketball for 30 years what you're trying to do and why you're trying to do it.. I should be able to see it easily.

I disagree - I think write-ups help explain the vision behind the team - and are especially important nowadays compared to in the past, just w/ the way the league is going..doesn't matter how long you've been watching ball.

But that's your thoughts - agree to disagree at this point i guess man.

[Manhattan Project]

direction was elite defense and surround giannis with multiple 38%+ 3pt shooters (crowder,bev,barton,ennis,arthur) Let him be a creator who can get his also. The 2nd option would've been an issue in the playoffs imo.

bebe and o'quinn provide rim protection down low and both + mejri crash the boards.

but hey, appreciate the actual basketball related feedback.

Ennis has hit SIX three's this year... But yeah, I thought your team really could've used an actual starting big man, that essentially was your team's downfall. Honestly picking Giannis with the second pick was the fun pick, but IMO the wrong selection for this competition.

[3toheadmelo]

Real quick one that bwgood and I came up w/ to send to br7 for the sim - not going to change it up now since there's no point, but somewhat of a baseline to work with.

Beverley (34), Frazier (12)
Barton (34), Baker (12)
Crowder (20), Ennis, (28)
Giannis (21), Crowder (17), Arthur (14)
Noguiera (15), O'Quinn (14), Giannis (12), Mejri (7)

and the write-up (kept at 250 based on bish's post) - just for more context.

The team was built around Giannis to surround him with 3 point shooting, high IQ players who move without the ball on offense. On defense the team plays with a grit and grind mentality combined with positionless versatility that match-up well against premier wings and guards. The 3 man big rotation can handle premier bigs and provide excellent help defense vs the pick-n-roll to compliment the perimeter players.

The small ball lineup this team can trot out supports the defensive versatility, while maintaining the top tier 3 point shooting that fits best around Giannis. Surrounding Giannis (23.5 pts/8.7 rebs/5.5 asst) is a supporting cast that moves well off ball, cutting to basket, and is insanely efficient from deep:

Crowder: 41% on 2.3m/5.6a
Beverley: 39% on 1.7m/4.3a
Barton: 38% on 1.4m/3.6a
Ennis: 41% on 1m/2.4a
Arthur: 49% on 1.5m/3.1a

Nogueira provides elite rim protection along with KOQ. Both defend the low post 1 on 1 w/ no help, while also providing the pick and roll help defense and rebounding needed from the 5 spot. Mejri can attack the boards and intimidate down low. On offense, Nogueira can operate on the pick n roll with Giannis surrounded by 3 pt shooters while O'Quinn can run the pick-n-pop.

Frazier and Baker give relief to help bring the ball up and initiate the offense, while fitting in with the identity of the team.

well this makes it a lot better to see what's going on
i actually like this team a lot, beverly,giannis,barton, crowder is a pretty nice lineup. very solid defense. tim fraizer is also a very good backup point guard along with good defense from baker. only knock on your team may be the center, cause he's not a starter in this league, probably shouldve started o'quinn i guess. but i think it's a pretty solid team actually. i think the way you presented your depth chart really hurt you. it sucks because that shouldn't be a legit excuse to stop you from making the playoffs but i think in this case it did. if the judges couldn't comprehend your team, they should've at least pm'd you about it.
this is a playoff team in my eyes

thanks man - that's why i kept hammering away that write-ups are important when explaining your vision.

no problem. but to be honest, i don't think a write up will have much of a effect. like if you have a good team, then it's good. but in your case, a write up was needed. the judges should still read the write ups if we're being asked to send them. but like I said in my previous post, the very least the judges could've done to you was PM you if they needed to be clarified about your vision of your team.

[Slicin N Dicin]

direction was elite defense and surround giannis with multiple 38%+ 3pt shooters (crowder,bev,barton,ennis,arthur) Let him be a creator who can get his also. The 2nd option would've been an issue in the playoffs imo.

bebe and o'quinn provide rim protection down low and both + mejri crash the boards.

but hey, appreciate the actual basketball related feedback.

Ennis has hit SIX three's this year... But yeah, I thought your team really could've used an actual starting big man, that essentially was your team's downfall. Honestly picking Giannis with the second pick was the fun pick, but IMO the wrong selection for this competition.

http://www.espn.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/2579321/james-ennis

LOL wut?

[Slicin N Dicin]

well this makes it a lot better to see what's going on
i actually like this team a lot, beverly,giannis,barton, crowder is a pretty nice lineup. very solid defense. tim fraizer is also a very good backup point guard along with good defense from baker. only knock on your team may be the center, cause he's not a starter in this league, probably shouldve started o'quinn i guess. but i think it's a pretty solid team actually. i think the way you presented your depth chart really hurt you. it sucks because that shouldn't be a legit excuse to stop you from making the playoffs but i think in this case it did. if the judges couldn't comprehend your team, they should've at least pm'd you about it.
this is a playoff team in my eyes

thanks man - that's why i kept hammering away that write-ups are important when explaining your vision.

no problem. but to be honest, i don't think a write up have much of a effect. like if you have a good team, then it's good. but in your case, a write up was needed. the judges should still read the write ups if we're being asked to send them. but like I said in my previous post, the very least the judges could've done to you was PM you if they needed to be clarified about your vision of your team.

Idk man - i think if we're being asked for a write-up, then it should be read...and bwgood and I had a long conversation about the depth chart and ended up coming with the conclusion that a write-up would explain why the chart was the way it was. and agreed, if clarification was needed..just ask...or read.