*Felton traded to the Knicks. Knicks not matching Lin?

[Johnmpasq]

I love that people are ripping Felton. The guy was great in NY and played very well with Amare. He averaged 17 and 9 with 3 TO in 54 games. Yes it was in Dantonis system but so was Lin's numbers. Lin 18 and 8, with 5 TO as a starter. Felton also played wasnt the primary option like Lin was when Melo and Amare were hurt. Id like to keep lin but he isnt this irreplacable player.

Numbers =/= full story. Let's ignore the 20 foot chucking from Felton, his tunnel vision, hot and cold pick and roll ability, overly aggressive defense which left him burned more times than not, and him being a fat ass.

Lin > Felton. Stop being the delusional fan trying to convince himself that something is true when it's not.

Your judging Lin on circumstances that will no longer be in place. He isnt going to be able to dominate the ball like he did with Dantoni. he will be fairly average I believe how this team is constructed

[NBA Fan 1234]

Lin is currently working out in the Bay Area with his longtime trainer, Brandynn Williams, on everything from dribbling to pick-and-roll maneuvering. He said he's trying to help Lin be more efficient making plays, in order to cut down on his high turnover rate from last season in his first-time starter role.

Williams thinks the Knicks will match because they'll recognize "he's legit and want him back."

"He looks really good and he's working hard," Williams told ESPN New York. "All he does is work out and work out some more. He will have a better year this year. He will always be successful because he lives in the gym.

"The world has not seen anything yet."

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/knicks/post/_/id/22082/jeffries-i-never-thought-theyd-let-lin-go

[Red Vines]

Lin is currently working out in the Bay Area with his longtime trainer, Brandynn Williams, on everything from dribbling to pick-and-roll maneuvering. He said he's trying to help Lin be more efficient making plays, in order to cut down on his high turnover rate from last season in his first-time starter role.

Williams thinks the Knicks will match because they'll recognize "he's legit and want him back."

"He looks really good and he's working hard," Williams told ESPN New York. "All he does is work out and work out some more. He will have a better year this year. He will always be successful because he lives in the gym.

"The world has not seen anything yet."

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/knicks/post/_/id/22082/jeffries-i-never-thought-theyd-let-lin-go

Sounds like Lin really wants to come back...that's what we want to hear.

[suicidedeuce]

Grunwald better make a statement on Monday, one way or the other. Can't wait to see MSG stock plummet once the market opens.

Which if true, is an argument for retaining him.

[carayip]

JR hogs the ball and shoots way more than Lin. Yet Melo and Woodson love him because he's Melo's former teammate. This cannot be pure bball decision.

JR "hogged" the ball when he was the only option on offense. He "chucked" when he got the ball with under 5 seconds left on the shot clock (which happened A LOT). Was he perfect? No. But he was another option on offense and was a very good man defender (bad off ball, though).

I am not ripping JR. I just tried to point out his theory of Lin not fitting with Melo is false and Melo can play with players who is ball dominant and likes to shoot. And "not fitting" cannot be a reason for not matching Lin.

[SARGO127]

Alright, I've been out all day yesterday and I'm not about to read through 170 pages. Can someone give me a recap of what is going on?

[K_ick_God]

Lin is currently working out in the Bay Area with his longtime trainer, Brandynn Williams, on everything from dribbling to pick-and-roll maneuvering. He said he's trying to help Lin be more efficient making plays, in order to cut down on his high turnover rate from last season in his first-time starter role.

Williams thinks the Knicks will match because they'll recognize "he's legit and want him back."

"He looks really good and he's working hard," Williams told ESPN New York. "All he does is work out and work out some more. He will have a better year this year. He will always be successful because he lives in the gym.

"The world has not seen anything yet."

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/knicks/post/_/id/22082/jeffries-i-never-thought-theyd-let-lin-go

I have no doubt that Lin is going to have an awesome career in NY if he stays in NY.

The very fact that Lin staying is now in question shows us that we're cursed.

[NBA Fan 1234]

I love that people are ripping Felton. The guy was great in NY and played very well with Amare. He averaged 17 and 9 with 3 TO in 54 games. Yes it was in Dantonis system but so was Lin's numbers. Lin 18 and 8, with 5 TO as a starter. Felton also played wasnt the primary option like Lin was when Melo and Amare were hurt. Id like to keep lin but he isnt this irreplacable player.

Numbers =/= full story. Let's ignore the 20 foot chucking from Felton, his tunnel vision, hot and cold pick and roll ability, overly aggressive defense which left him burned more times than not, and him being a fat ass.

Lin > Felton. Stop being the delusional fan trying to convince himself that something is true when it's not.

Your judging Lin on circumstances that will no longer be in place. He isnt going to be able to dominate the ball like he did with Dantoni. he will be fairly average I believe how this team is constructed

He doesn't have to dominate the ball. he showed that when we went 7-1 with a healthy roster under Woodson. He'll still be a 14-16 6-7 APG guy that gets to the line, and plays SMART.

[NBA Fan 1234]

JR hogs the ball and shoots way more than Lin. Yet Melo and Woodson love him because he's Melo's former teammate. This cannot be pure bball decision.

JR "hogged" the ball when he was the only option on offense. He "chucked" when he got the ball with under 5 seconds left on the shot clock (which happened A LOT). Was he perfect? No. But he was another option on offense and was a very good man defender (bad off ball, though).

I am not ripping JR. I just tried to point out his theory of Lin not fitting with Melo is false and Melo can play with players who is ball dominant and likes to shoot. And "not fitting" cannot be a reason for not matching Lin.

Woops. Continue on your ways lol.

[K_ick_God]

Alright, I've been out all day yesterday and I'm not about to read through 170 pages. Can someone give me a recap of what is going on?

Bunch of people reporting that Knicks are unlikely to match. Marc Stein thinks we will. Seems Lin wants to come back.

No logical explanation has yet been found for not matching.

[Jay10]

Woodson made those comments before Houston changed their offer. Lin tipped off Houston and they changed the offer sheet terms.

Lin "tipped off" Houston.

I read Woodson's comments on ESPN.com.

Are you suggest they don't have the internet in Houston?

I get really annoyed when I read that "tipped off" language. It sounds like spin coming from the Knicks' front office. If we intended to match Lin, we should have just matched him when the time came. There was no need to notify him and his agent. It doesn't surprise me that his agent (I'm assuming) would then tell the Rockets that they would need to up their offer to have a shot at him. We know with Landry from his tweets that he didn't know if he'd be matched or not. We should have done the same thing with Lin. I assume that is standard operating procedure.

It's difficult to sign an offer sheet when you don't have it.

It was reported Jeremy signed the first offer sheet but didn't give it to the knicks, and met up with the rockets yesterday or the day before in las vegas and left with a higher offer. Jeremy or his agent most likely asked the rockets to up the offer since it was reported the knicks would've matched any offer up to $1B.

[VirginiaKnickFan]

Grunwald better make a statement on Monday, one way or the other. Can't wait to see MSG stock plummet once the market opens.

Which if true, is an argument for retaining him.

You also have to take into account the Nets moving to their new arena this season. It's a battle to sell tickets.

[suicidedeuce]

well we all can't be as smart as you duece, like you keep telling us.

Double standard god.

You keep making statements outright declaring you know for certain what the Knicks will do, essentially telling everyone who thinks otherwise they're wrong.

I'm saying I and no one else knows.

And *I'm* the one telling people I'm smarter than they are?

Funny how that works.

[BeagleBoss]

Just match and give yourself a year. If in a year you still don't think Lin is legit, you trade him. To give up now cause of fear 3 years from now is stupid and it makes no sense. We are New York. Money should neverever be an issue. Regardless of what the CBA is, we'll always be a team over and paying luxury tax.