Knicks-Related Trade "THOUGHTS" Thread

TheGarden · Post #2541 » by **TheGarden** » Wed Nov 13, 2013 6:41 am

Honestly I think dealing Carmelo to Houston would be great for both sides

they'd be put in win now mode with a very good big 3 and we'd be able blow this up like everyone wants to

siar617 · Post #2542 » by **siar617** » Wed Nov 13, 2013 7:37 am

Nyk4lyfe wrote:Would you guys trade Shumpert for Dragic? Why or why not? Just curious.

If they going to trade him regardless then i need a first with that.

Juggynaut · Post #2543 » by **Juggynaut** » Wed Nov 13, 2013 8:07 am

TheGarden wrote:Honestly I think dealing Carmelo to Houston would be great for both sides

they'd be put in win now mode with a very good big 3 and we'd be able blow this up like everyone wants to

Who are we getting back? Lin and Asik? I honestly wouldn't mind a trade like Lin, Asik, Terrence Jones + 1st round pick. Also trading for Blake Griffin + 1st round pick is solid.

TheGarden · Post #2544 » by **TheGarden** » Wed Nov 13, 2013 8:14 am

Juggynaut wrote:
TheGarden wrote:Honestly I think dealing Carmelo to Houston would be great for both sides

they'd be put in win now mode with a very good big 3 and we'd be able blow this up like everyone wants to

Who are we getting back? Lin and Asik? I honestly wouldn't mind a trade like Lin, Asik, Terrence Jones + 1st round pick. Also trading for Blake Griffin + 1st round pick is solid.

Lin, Asik, Jones, Motiejunas and 2 1sts is what it would take in my eyes

I dont wanna deal Melo but if this journey doesnt end where I expect then just try and start fresh

move JR, Felton, Tyson, Shumpert, Bargs, everyone

iHeartKNicks · Post #2545 » by **iHeartKNicks** » Wed Nov 13, 2013 10:56 am

Would anyone do Felton & Shumpert for Reggie Jackson, Perry Jones & a 1st?

Rasho Brezec · Post #2546 » by **Rasho Brezec** » Wed Nov 13, 2013 12:32 pm

1) Shumpert + Bargnani for Dragic + Frye

2) Amare + Hardaway Jr + Udrih + Chris Spliff for Humphries + Bass + Lee + Bogans + Brooks

3) Felton + JR + Kenyon for Evans + Miller

PG: Dragic / Prigioni / Murry
SG: Lee / Evans / Brooks
SF: Melo / Bogans / Miller
PF: Artest / Bass / Frye
C: Tyson / Aldrich / Humphries

1) Saves Phoenix $333,740 this season, $183,025 next season and gets them a SG they were after for the last couple of seasons.

2) Saves Boston $5,692,152 this season, adds them $12,311,628 next season and saves them $5,675,000 in 2015. Overall, they spend $944,476 more, but they get a PG they don't have right now and a cheap rookie SG for 4 more seasons. Amare ensures them more lotto balls.

3) Saves New Orleans $2,498,753 this season, $1,489,348 next season, $384,523 in 2015 and $10,203,755 in 2016.

2015 outlook:

PG: Dragic
SG: Lee / Evans
SF:
PF:
C:

We would add $5,122,565 to our 2015 salary. If we move Lee who only has an extra year and should find some suitors if he plays well with Dragic again, we could save $552,435 compared to our current roster. That would mean $18,234,586 worth of salaries between Dragic and Evans. It would leave around $41,915,414 of capspace which is not enough for two max contracts, but still more than we are currently projected to have.

shmeakone · Post #2547 » by **shmeakone** » Wed Nov 13, 2013 2:35 pm

Any way we can get the Williams & Shved package from Minny?

I feel like Williams could fit in here nicely.

Knicks_Fan2 · Post #2548 » by **Knicks_Fan2** » Wed Nov 13, 2013 3:22 pm

A Toronto trade is coming, gents.

sportscrazy · Post #2549 » by **sportscrazy** » Wed Nov 13, 2013 5:12 pm

I would try for Rudy Gay at this point and hope he changes in the ways Monta Ellis has in Dallas. I know this would probably require a follow-up trade for a floor spreading SG and some other minor changes, but realistically it doesn't mess up the 2015 plan and if it does work, it could win us the division at least. If it doesn't work, we're in the same position we are in right now.

sportscrazy · Post #2550 » by **sportscrazy** » Wed Nov 13, 2013 5:22 pm

Knicks get:
Rudy Gay
Goran Dragic
Landry Fields

C-Tyson Chandler
PF-Carmelo Anthony
SF-Rudy Gay
SG-J.R. Smith
PG-Goran Dragic

Raptors get:
Amare Stoudemire
Iman Shumpert
Raymond Felton
Future Top 20 Protected First Round Draft Pick (via Knicks)

Suns get:
Demar DeRozan

R-DAWG · Post #2551 » by **R-DAWG** » Wed Nov 13, 2013 5:30 pm

sportscrazy wrote:Knicks get:
Rudy Gay
Goran Dragic
Landry Fields

C-Tyson Chandler
PF-Carmelo Anthony
SF-Rudy Gay
SG-J.R. Smith
PG-Goran Dragic

Raptors get:
Amare Stoudemire
Iman Shumpert
Raymond Felton
Future Top 20 Protected First Round Draft Pick (via Knicks)

Suns get:
Demar DeRozan

No more trading future first round picks, 5 years into the future no less, for close to 30 overpaid underachievers.

Knicks_Fan2 · Post #2552 » by **Knicks_Fan2** » Wed Nov 13, 2013 5:32 pm

R-DAWG wrote:
sportscrazy wrote:Knicks get:
Rudy Gay
Goran Dragic
Landry Fields

C-Tyson Chandler
PF-Carmelo Anthony
SF-Rudy Gay
SG-J.R. Smith
PG-Goran Dragic

Raptors get:
Amare Stoudemire
Iman Shumpert
Raymond Felton
Future Top 20 Protected First Round Draft Pick (via Knicks)

Suns get:
Demar DeRozan

No more trading future first round picks, 5 years into the future no less, for close to 30 overpaid underachievers.

This should just be black letter law for the GM at this point.

R-DAWG · Post #2553 » by **R-DAWG** » Wed Nov 13, 2013 5:36 pm

Knicks_Fan2 wrote:
R-DAWG wrote:
sportscrazy wrote:Knicks get:
Rudy Gay
Goran Dragic
Landry Fields

C-Tyson Chandler
PF-Carmelo Anthony
SF-Rudy Gay
SG-J.R. Smith
PG-Goran Dragic

Raptors get:
Amare Stoudemire
Iman Shumpert
Raymond Felton
Future Top 20 Protected First Round Draft Pick (via Knicks)

Suns get:
Demar DeRozan

No more trading future first round picks, 5 years into the future no less, for close to 30 overpaid underachievers.

This should just be black letter law for the GM at this point.

At this point the goal should be get past 2016 without trading any draft picks and then blow it up and start from scratch.

BTNasty · Post #2554 » by **BTNasty** » Wed Nov 13, 2013 6:25 pm

Alright so I was bored and decided to mess around with the trade machine. I want to preface by saying that this would only occur later in the season but before the trade deadline if things continue to get worse and this team shows no signs of hope. Here's what I came up with:

Trade makes sense for both teams if you think about it. Knicks start to rebuild around Monroe and get some young talent in KCP and Mitchell while also getting back two expirings. The front court of Smith, Monroe and Drummond was a poor fit from the start so getting a wing like Melo will allow Smith and Drummond to beast down low without Monroe clogging up the lane too.

Detroit probably wouldn't part with both KCP and Mitchell but I'm hoping they would lol. Obviously it's doubtful that this trade would happen but I wouldn't be opposed to something like this a bit down the road. Whether either team would entertain it is another story but we would certainly have a lot of young talent to build around. Then we'd have Stat, Bargnani and Chandler coming off the books after next season so we would be in really good shape if we could somehow be patient for a change. Thoughts?

Post #2555 » by **GONYK** » Wed Nov 13, 2013 6:27 pm

Melo nixes the hell out of that

Post #2556 » by **moocow007** » Wed Nov 13, 2013 8:35 pm

BTNasty wrote:Alright so I was bored and decided to mess around with the trade machine. I want to preface by saying that this would only occur later in the season but before the trade deadline if things continue to get worse and this team shows no signs of hope. Here's what I came up with:

Trade makes sense for both teams if you think about it. Knicks start to rebuild around Monroe and get some young talent in KCP and Mitchell while also getting back two expirings. The front court of Smith, Monroe and Drummond was a poor fit from the start so getting a wing like Melo will allow Smith and Drummond to beast down low without Monroe clogging up the lane too.

Detroit probably wouldn't part with both KCP and Mitchell but I'm hoping they would lol. Obviously it's doubtful that this trade would happen but I wouldn't be opposed to something like this a bit down the road. Whether either team would entertain it is another story but we would certainly have a lot of young talent to build around. Then we'd have Stat, Bargnani and Chandler coming off the books after next season so we would be in really good shape if we could somehow be patient for a change. Thoughts?

? So basically Carmelo Anthony for Greg Monroe? Monroe isn't THAT good. And he's going to be a FA at the end of the season so that's a brand new 5 year contract for god knows how much coming for a guy that really isn't a featured player.

Knicks218 · Post #2557 » by **Knicks218** » Wed Nov 13, 2013 9:43 pm

Amare, Shumpert, Beno for Faried, W.Chandler, A.Miller works under trade checker #6351439.

isiah_thomas · Post #2558 » by **isiah_thomas** » Wed Nov 13, 2013 9:48 pm

Knicks218 wrote:Amare, Shumpert, Beno for Faried, W.Chandler, A.Miller works under trade checker #6351439.

Yay from the Knicks
Pass from the Nugs

SuperflyKnick · Post #2559 » by **SuperflyKnick** » Wed Nov 13, 2013 11:40 pm

TheGarden wrote:
Juggynaut wrote:
TheGarden wrote:Honestly I think dealing Carmelo to Houston would be great for both sides

they'd be put in win now mode with a very good big 3 and we'd be able blow this up like everyone wants to

Who are we getting back? Lin and Asik? I honestly wouldn't mind a trade like Lin, Asik, Terrence Jones + 1st round pick. Also trading for Blake Griffin + 1st round pick is solid.

Lin, Asik, Jones, Motiejunas and 2 1sts is what it would take in my eyes

I dont wanna deal Melo but if this journey doesnt end where I expect then just try and start fresh

move JR, Felton, Tyson, Shumpert, Bargs, everyone[/quote

You wanna give up melo for that junk ?

swisscheeseD · Post #2560 » by **swisscheeseD** » Wed Nov 13, 2013 11:49 pm

Only deal I consider moving Melo in at this point is to Golden State for Klay Thompson, Barnes and DLee. If we did that I'd look to move Lee to a 3rd team in the deal and pull the trigger on the Shump/Faried deal (if possible).

Would anyone consider a Shump for Schroeder+ deal with the Hawks? Cost controlled young point, often compared to Rondo. Might make for a nice piece to move to the C's who have their SG position already tied down by Bradley.

Even if it wasn't Shump for Schroeder, ATL may really have an interest in getting Horford the big he has been clamoring for in Chandler. NYK/ATL are definitely an interesting trade partner.