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Knicks could use Marc Gasol or Lamarcus Aldridge.
Memphis is going to have to give Gasol the 5 year max. No one really knows what the Memphis front office has planned. Conley is set to be paid next year as well.
Memphis is going to have to give Gasol the 5 year max. No one really knows what the Memphis front office has planned. Conley is set to be paid next year as well.
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FemaleDogPlease wrote:Knicks could use Marc Gasol or Lamarcus Aldridge.
Memphis is going to have to give Gasol the 5 year max. No one really knows what the Memphis front office has planned. Conley is set to be paid next year as well.
I can't see them not offering him the max.
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beasonu wrote:knickst4pe wrote:beasonu wrote:Do NOT want Danny Green trust me. Has that guy hit a jumpshot in a month?
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One of the best shooters AND one of the best wing defenders in the nba at probably the weakest position. Starter on a two time nba finalist. 27 years old. how in the entire world can you NOT pay him 10 mil a year????
He is definitely not a top shooter from what I have seen. Just my opinion.
He is from NORTH BABYLON, Long Island so just like Tobias, wouldn't be surprised if he comes here
your opinion? lolololololololol. and the stats? the multitued of stats that back up him being a "Top Shooter" where does that factor in?
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Green is a streaky shooter...an all or nothing kind of guy. He'd definitely wear thin on many posters on these forums. A lot of people who have the expectations that he is like a Kyle Korver type threat based solely on his percentages, will be sorely disappointed.
At least he is able to still contribute defensively when his shots aren't falling.
At least he is able to still contribute defensively when his shots aren't falling.
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swisscheeseD wrote:Green is a streaky shooter...an all or nothing kind of guy. He'd definitely wear thin on many posters on these forums. A lot of people who have the expectations that he is like a Kyle Korver type threat based solely on his percentages, will be sorely disappointed.
At least he is able to still contribute defensively when his shots aren't falling.
He isn't a unflawed player. He isn't knock down like Korver. But what he does bring is a winning mentality, a guy who will do the little things. And he has the ability to defend 3 positions.
What kind of $$$ will he get IDK. But I am not going to judge a player baded on a few bad shooting nights against the clippers.
For example Carroll is making himself a ton of $$$ right now. Probably way more than what he should get because of a hot streak shooting from deep. He is not that type of player.
The question will be we will need to put a value on each player and then you got to overpay a little to bring him in a seal the deal/ Also take into account the new cap and increase salaries even further.
I still take Danny Green over Carroll and I am hoping this hot playoffs from Carroll get him a huge deal from another team taking away that team from bidding against us. 50% from 3 is shooting out of his mind.
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mpharris36 wrote:swisscheeseD wrote:Green is a streaky shooter...an all or nothing kind of guy. He'd definitely wear thin on many posters on these forums. A lot of people who have the expectations that he is like a Kyle Korver type threat based solely on his percentages, will be sorely disappointed.
At least he is able to still contribute defensively when his shots aren't falling.
He isn't a unflawed player. He isn't knock down like Korver. But what he does bring is a winning mentality, a guy who will do the little things. And he has the ability to defend 3 positions.
What kind of $$$ will he get IDK. But I am not going to judge a player baded on a few bad shooting nights against the clippers.
For example Carroll is making himself a ton of $$$ right now. Probably way more than what he should get because of a hot streak shooting from deep. He is not that type of player.
The question will be we will need to put a value on each player and then you got to overpay a little to bring him in a seal the deal/ Also take into account the new cap and increase salaries even further.
I still take Danny Green over Carroll and I am hoping this hot playoffs from Carroll get him a huge deal from another team taking away that team from bidding against us. 50% from 3 is shooting out of his mind.
Once Carroll comes back down to Earth against the Wiz, so will his market value
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GONYK wrote:mpharris36 wrote:swisscheeseD wrote:Green is a streaky shooter...an all or nothing kind of guy. He'd definitely wear thin on many posters on these forums. A lot of people who have the expectations that he is like a Kyle Korver type threat based solely on his percentages, will be sorely disappointed.
At least he is able to still contribute defensively when his shots aren't falling.
He isn't a unflawed player. He isn't knock down like Korver. But what he does bring is a winning mentality, a guy who will do the little things. And he has the ability to defend 3 positions.
What kind of $$$ will he get IDK. But I am not going to judge a player baded on a few bad shooting nights against the clippers.
For example Carroll is making himself a ton of $$$ right now. Probably way more than what he should get because of a hot streak shooting from deep. He is not that type of player.
The question will be we will need to put a value on each player and then you got to overpay a little to bring him in a seal the deal/ Also take into account the new cap and increase salaries even further.
I still take Danny Green over Carroll and I am hoping this hot playoffs from Carroll get him a huge deal from another team taking away that team from bidding against us. 50% from 3 is shooting out of his mind.
Once Carroll comes back down to Earth against the Wiz, so will his market value
Or...
Seasoned NBA execs don't react like fans do, reacting to individual games. Sure, we can all names some guys who got overpaid due to strong play-off pushes (hell, Jerome), but for the most part execs understand players can get hot and cold. Their larger body of work will still be weighted the heaviest.
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GONYK wrote:
Once Carroll comes back down to Earth against the Wiz, so will his market value
I keep waiting for it but I he continues to be unconscious from deep. The best thing for him would be to continue to shoot well and his hawks get knocked out early (maybe in 5). Because he can probably sustain that good play for a few more games. What he doesn't want is to go into the next round and have chi or cle shut him down.
Even if the hawks lose and he puts up good games the next few he will jump a few guys on the wish list because this is a what have you done for me lately league. Remember Jerome James and that ridiculously good playoff he had before IT game him that ridiculous contract. Now Thomas was an idiot but all it takes is for one GM to get enamored by a mediocre players playoff run and throw him a ton of $$$.
Danny Green has now done it for 4 years now and done really well in the post season...he has a little more consistency to his game than Carroll does. Carroll is just the new hot ticket on the market right now with his unsustainable play.
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And100 wrote:Or...
Seasoned NBA execs don't react like fans do, reacting to individual games. Sure, we can all names some guys who got overpaid due to strong play-off pushes (hell, Jerome), but for the most part execs understand players can get hot and cold. Their larger body of work will still be weighted the heaviest.
All it takes is one stupid GM or one owner to want to make a splash. What better to make a splash than sign the hottest guy in the playoffs, its good PR. Someone will fall for the trap thinking that guy has "turned the corner"
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mpharris36 wrote:GONYK wrote:
Once Carroll comes back down to Earth against the Wiz, so will his market value
I keep waiting for it but I he continues to be unconscious from deep. The best thing for him would be to continue to shoot well and his hawks get knocked out early (maybe in 5). Because he can probably sustain that good play for a few more games. What he doesn't want is to go into the next round and have chi or cle shut him down.
Even if the hawks lose and he puts up good games the next few he will jump a few guys on the wish list because this is a what have you done for me lately league. Remember Jerome James and that ridiculously good playoff he had before IT game him that ridiculous contract. Now Thomas was an idiot but all it takes is for one GM to get enamored by a mediocre players playoff run and throw him a ton of $$$.
Danny Green has now done it for 4 years now and done really well in the post season...he has a little more consistency to his game than Carroll does. Carroll is just the new hot ticket on the market right now with his unsustainable play.
I don't think the world is fooled though that Carroll is suddenly a better shooter than Korver.
To me, it's the same thing when JR won 6MOTY and everyone thought he would be getting a $10m+ deal. He was the same exact player he always was, the the league didn't fall for it.
You're right that all it takes is one dumb GM, but I think by and large, his value is somewhat fixed.
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GONYK wrote:
I don't think the world is fooled though that Carroll is suddenly a better shooter than Korver.
To me, it's the same thing when JR won 6MOTY and everyone thought he would be getting a $10m+ deal. He was the same exact player he always was, the the league didn't fall for it.
You're right that all it takes is one dumb GM, but I think by and large, his value is somewhat fixed.
while I agree it is somewhat fixed as he will never be a max guy. He probably started the season as a 5-6 million dollar guy and is ending the season as a 10 million dollar guy probably. So he did improve his value because the knock on him for being a 5-6 million dollar guy was that he was a good smart role player, plus defender, and he could hit the occasional 3 point shot. Now he is showing a much more developed offense skillset and maybe someone falls for it.
It has happened in the past. SF is probably the least deep position in the NBA. Having someone that can at least guard the likes of LeBron, Durant, and Melo while also being capable of scoring double figures is a valued commodity. Now that he is a flame throwing in the playoffs he might get one or two desperate teams to overpay. It happens all the times. GM's and Owners overreact too, its not just fans.
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mpharris36 wrote:GONYK wrote:
I don't think the world is fooled though that Carroll is suddenly a better shooter than Korver.
To me, it's the same thing when JR won 6MOTY and everyone thought he would be getting a $10m+ deal. He was the same exact player he always was, the the league didn't fall for it.
You're right that all it takes is one dumb GM, but I think by and large, his value is somewhat fixed.
while I agree it is somewhat fixed as he will never be a max guy. He probably started the season as a 5-6 million dollar guy and is ending the season as a 10 million dollar guy probably. So he did improve his value because the knock on him for being a 5-6 million dollar guy was that he was a good smart role player, plus defender, and he could hit the occasional 3 point shot. Now he is showing a much more developed offense skillset and maybe someone falls for it.
It has happened in the past. SF is probably the least deep position in the NBA. Having someone that can at least guard the likes of LeBron, Durant, and Melo while also being capable of scoring double figures is a valued commodity. Now that he is a flame throwing in the playoffs he might get one or two desperate teams to overpay. It happens all the times. GM's and Owners overreact too, its not just fans.
I honestly think the rising cap will have way more to do with Carroll's salary than a hot playoffs
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GONYK wrote:mpharris36 wrote:GONYK wrote:
I don't think the world is fooled though that Carroll is suddenly a better shooter than Korver.
To me, it's the same thing when JR won 6MOTY and everyone thought he would be getting a $10m+ deal. He was the same exact player he always was, the the league didn't fall for it.
You're right that all it takes is one dumb GM, but I think by and large, his value is somewhat fixed.
while I agree it is somewhat fixed as he will never be a max guy. He probably started the season as a 5-6 million dollar guy and is ending the season as a 10 million dollar guy probably. So he did improve his value because the knock on him for being a 5-6 million dollar guy was that he was a good smart role player, plus defender, and he could hit the occasional 3 point shot. Now he is showing a much more developed offense skillset and maybe someone falls for it.
It has happened in the past. SF is probably the least deep position in the NBA. Having someone that can at least guard the likes of LeBron, Durant, and Melo while also being capable of scoring double figures is a valued commodity. Now that he is a flame throwing in the playoffs he might get one or two desperate teams to overpay. It happens all the times. GM's and Owners overreact too, its not just fans.
I honestly think the rising cap will have way more to do with Carroll's salary than a hot playoffs
agreed, but I think its just another reason to talk a GM and Owner into overpaying too. He had a great playoff (he is turning the corner) and the cap is going up. The double wammy to overpay for a player he is showing up on the big stage.
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GONYK wrote:mpharris36 wrote:GONYK wrote:
Once Carroll comes back down to Earth against the Wiz, so will his market value
I keep waiting for it but I he continues to be unconscious from deep. The best thing for him would be to continue to shoot well and his hawks get knocked out early (maybe in 5). Because he can probably sustain that good play for a few more games. What he doesn't want is to go into the next round and have chi or cle shut him down.
Even if the hawks lose and he puts up good games the next few he will jump a few guys on the wish list because this is a what have you done for me lately league. Remember Jerome James and that ridiculously good playoff he had before IT game him that ridiculous contract. Now Thomas was an idiot but all it takes is for one GM to get enamored by a mediocre players playoff run and throw him a ton of $$$.
Danny Green has now done it for 4 years now and done really well in the post season...he has a little more consistency to his game than Carroll does. Carroll is just the new hot ticket on the market right now with his unsustainable play.
I don't think the world is fooled though that Carroll is suddenly a better shooter than Korver.
To me, it's the same thing when JR won 6MOTY and everyone thought he would be getting a $10m+ deal. He was the same exact player he always was, the the league didn't fall for it.
You're right that all it takes is one dumb GM, but I think by and large, his value is somewhat fixed.
JR self destructing in the playoffs didn't help either.
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The most impressive things about Danny Green for me are......
- he's a really good defender and can guard 1 thru 3 (he's sound, disciplined and tough -- plus he has + size/strength to defend)
- he's in constant movement, understands how to create space off ball movement and he takes good shots
- he's not a star but is a consummate team player
- he can stroke the 3 ball
- he's decent at driving and kicking (not great but decent)
- he's a really good defender and can guard 1 thru 3 (he's sound, disciplined and tough -- plus he has + size/strength to defend)
- he's in constant movement, understands how to create space off ball movement and he takes good shots
- he's not a star but is a consummate team player
- he can stroke the 3 ball
- he's decent at driving and kicking (not great but decent)
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knicks85 wrote:malik959 wrote:knicks85 wrote:Try Lawson and Denver's top 10 pick for Knicks pick and Calderon... Thoughts?
Lawson production and talent for mudiay and Russel is pretty close to best case scenario besides Denver having a top 10 pick...please submit something actually contributory ...
Sorry if I didn't explain myself, but you want to give up a Top 5 pick which can actually either 1) become an all star or solid player, or 2) Net us an all star. Now Ty is a decent player, but he's no all star and he's undersized. I don't want to get rid of a top 5 pick just to get rid of Calderon and THJ. That is something you do with a 15-30 pick. Ty is all so high in turnovers because he's ball dominant. I like Ty as a ball player, but not this much.
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Johnny Hoops wrote:The most impressive things about Danny Green for me are......
- he's a really good defender and can guard 1 thru 3 (he's sound, disciplined and tough -- plus he has + size/strength to defend)
- he's in constant movement, understands how to create space off ball movement and he takes good shots
- he's not a star but is a consummate team player
- he can stroke the 3 ball
- he's decent at driving and kicking (not great but decent)
Another note on Danny Green is if your team switches and he gets stuck on a big man he can hold his ground.
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Meat wrote:beasonu wrote:knickst4pe wrote:
One of the best shooters AND one of the best wing defenders in the nba at probably the weakest position. Starter on a two time nba finalist. 27 years old. how in the entire world can you NOT pay him 10 mil a year????
He is definitely not a top shooter from what I have seen. Just my opinion.
He is from NORTH BABYLON, Long Island so just like Tobias, wouldn't be surprised if he comes here
your opinion? lolololololololol. and the stats? the multitued of stats that back up him being a "Top Shooter" where does that factor in?
I don't normally bring stats into arguments. Instead, I watch guys 25-40 times a year and that tells me if I want them or not. Danny Green - no.
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Johnny Hoops wrote:The most impressive things about Danny Green for me are......
- he's a really good defender and can guard 1 thru 3 (he's sound, disciplined and tough -- plus he has + size/strength to defend)
- he's in constant movement, understands how to create space off ball movement and he takes good shots
- he's not a star but is a consummate team player
- he can stroke the 3 ball
- he's decent at driving and kicking (not great but decent)
That's worth about $5-6 million per.
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was curious do we have enough money to sign both Lamarcus and Gasol?
Was just thinking of
Gasol
Lamarcus
Melo
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Russell or Mudiay.
I'd like that squad!
Was just thinking of
Gasol
Lamarcus
Melo
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Russell or Mudiay.
I'd like that squad!














