[Camelo Thread Part 19] - Nyets won't be used pg 52

[knicks742]

:lol: @ the denver FO.

I simply cannot believe that is the real offer. I refuse to accept they are this incompetent.

No wonder Donnie told them to take a hike.

its gonna be hilarious watching pharm trying to justify that offer.

Good point. i changed the title so he wouldn't miss the news.

[K_ick_God]

http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nba/news/story?id=6128807

Melo basically checked out of Denver. That is obvious. But I don't hear a guy who is willing to go to free agency. I don't think he will say no to NJ at this point if they make a move.

Yeah, watching that I don't think he would say no to NJ at this point either. Just look at him smile every time he mentions home or New York. I do think he wants to come here but he really doesn't have the resolve that LeBron, Wade and Bosh did to go to where he wants to be when he can control it. Then again, those guys are in his ear, so maybe they convince him? All I know is, Denver doesn't want to deal and I'm not so sure I want to deal with Denver. -Jitpal

I think the Nets are keeping an eye on this but not really heavily involved. But Denver is trying to line them up so that Melo has something to cave for when the time comes. And I agree that he could definitely cave. I think he's nervous about this silly extension even though he will not lose much if anything under the new CBA.

[iDunk]

Makes me want to take Ujiri by his neck and punch the **** out of him. Seriously, what a dirtbag. This isn't 2k making fantasy trades. Get real dog, this isn't a board game.

I really just wish Melo leaves and signs with another team even if not with the Knicks just so Ujiri feels like a dumbass.

[NYman15]

Another point I wanted to add and I don't know how important it is but we have to remember that Amare will be at All Star weekend with Melo remember they're also coaching the Rookie/Sophmore game and so they will be hanging out and you know if they hang out this will come up and its just another possible plus for us also Fields will be there too.

[K_ick_God]

I think Melo is a good guy so I say this with no malice but ....

Watching him go to New Jersey next week, if indeed that happens, will be one of the more embarrassing moments in sports history ...

'I'm all about winning and I'm down with free agency and losing a little money if I can win.'

Takes extension with the Nets for a) money and b) Brooklyn.

Nets are 23 games below .500 and have no chance to compete this year or next, and maybe never.

Hi Melo. What do you have to say for yourself now?

How does he answer those questions in a press conference without looking like a complete idiot?

Also he'll look 10x worse when the new CBA is decided and he sees, and the whole world sees, that he took an extension only to have that extension rolled back OR to see that he would have been Grandfathered in (at least partially). I.E., it will be obvious for all to see that he is stuck in New Jersey on a contract that is very close to IF NOT THE SAME AS the one he could have had if he waited for New York.

[K_ick_God]

Hahn will be on the radio at 10:15 AM:

alanhahn
To listen in outside the New York area (or from your computer at work) go here. I'll whisper so you don't get caught: http://es.pn/9y0eH2

[DLTGWH]

If the Knicks loose Carmelo Anthony to the Nets Donnie has somewhat failed.

Danny Granger, Gerald Wallace and Andre Igoudala all of their teams will be fighting for a playoff spot this season so they are staying put.

Failed at what? Denver isnt engaging serious trade talk with us. They arent interested in sending Melo to the Knicks. You dont make bad trades for the sake of pleasing people. Trading our entire young core for melo is a bad trade. Flat out.

[seren]

I think Melo is a good guy so I say this with no malice but ....

Watching him go to New Jersey next week, if indeed that happens, will be one of the more embarrassing moments in sports history ...

'I'm all about winning and I'm down with free agency and losing a little money if I can win.'

Takes extension with the Nets for a) money and b) Brooklyn.

Nets are 23 games below .500 and have no chance to compete this year or next, and maybe never.

Hi Melo. What do you have to say for yourself now?

How does he answer those questions in a press conference without looking like a complete idiot?

Also he'll look 10x worse when the new CBA is decided and he sees, and the whole world sees, that he took an extension only to have that extension rolled back OR to see that he would have been Grandfathered in (at least partially). I.E., it will be obvious for all to see that he is stuck in New Jersey on a contract that is very close IF NOT the same as the one he could have had if he waited for New York.

Absolutely embarrassing. He is done as a basketball player the moment he goes to NJ. Especially if the deal involves all the pieces they mention. They are giving all their assets and they will be capped out for the foreseeable future. That roster he will have out there is only a tad better Cleveland and make no mistake Melo is not LBJ.

[lloydj]

Hell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! to !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Denver!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

[Starks1994]

I can't wait to this mess is over with. If we get him or not is something i'm not even worried about. I just want this to be over so we can go back to talking about Basketball.

[Jitpal]

I think Melo is a good guy so I say this with no malice but ....

Watching him go to New Jersey next week, if indeed that happens, will be one of the more embarrassing moments in sports history ...

'I'm all about winning and I'm down with free agency and losing a little money if I can win.'

Takes extension with the Nets for a) money and b) Brooklyn.

Nets are 23 games below .500 and have no chance to compete this year or next, and maybe never.

Hi Melo. What do you have to say for yourself now?

How does he answer those questions in a press conference without looking like a complete idiot?

Also he'll look 10x worse when the new CBA is decided and he sees, and the whole world sees, that he took an extension only to have that extension rolled back OR to see that he would have been Grandfathered in (at least partially). I.E., it will be obvious for all to see that he is stuck in New Jersey on a contract that is very close to IF NOT THE SAME AS the one he could have had if he waited for New York.

Well, he can say his agents got what they want. -Jitpal

[god shammgod]

Good point. i changed the title so he wouldn't miss the news.

neither pharm or dolan or anyone would sign off on that. that report is not new though. it was out a week ago. then we heard reports of a better deal. i have a hard time believing that's where we're at with denver.

[mpharris36]

This is just funny to me because it basically is denver being stubburn and refusing to deal with the knicks and give into carmelo demands.

Nets offer was Harris, Favors, and 3 late round draft picks - which denver was drooling at

Ours was Felton, Gallo, Fields, Chandler, and Mosgov plus a pick....

Lets dive deaper into each trade.

Felton is better than everything the nets are offering, gallo is better then anything the nets are offering, chandler is better than anything the nets are offering, fields a young promising piece who is better than favors. Mosgov is a 7 ft athletic center, and they want first round pick.

For anyone who thinks the nets offer is so special is hilarious. Favors is a scrub aka chris taft, aka stromile switft, ok athleticism, no shot, ok size, ok rebounder nothing special about him, he will be a solid roll player. It is just hilarious to think denver wouldn't trade with us out of spite but thats what happens when you have no experience idoits running the denver FO.

[delvec19]

BrandonTierney Brandon Tierney
I'm hearing that in addition to Gallo, Fields, Chandler, Moz & multiple # 1's, Denver is also asking for 5 Knicks City Dancers, Al Trautwig and a piece of the iconic ceiling at MSG

LOL

[aggo]

where the hell else is melo going to go in the summer if it comes to that?

he's made it clear he wants to win

he cannot win with that DEN roster. Kmart gone. JR gone. Billups gone. Nene will command 12+mil... where else can he go?

[Staruk]

BrandonTierney Brandon Tierney
I'm hearing that in addition to Gallo, Fields, Chandler, Moz & multiple # 1's, Denver is also asking for 5 Knicks City Dancers, Al Trautwig and a piece of the iconic ceiling at MSG

LOL

LOL

[DaRooster8]

I think Melo is a good guy so I say this with no malice but ....

Watching him go to New Jersey next week, if indeed that happens, will be one of the more embarrassing moments in sports history ...

'I'm all about winning and I'm down with free agency and losing a little money if I can win.'

Takes extension with the Nets for a) money and b) Brooklyn.

Nets are 23 games below .500 and have no chance to compete this year or next, and maybe never.

Hi Melo. What do you have to say for yourself now?

How does he answer those questions in a press conference without looking like a complete idiot?

Also he'll look 10x worse when the new CBA is decided and he sees, and the whole world sees, that he took an extension only to have that extension rolled back OR to see that he would have been Grandfathered in (at least partially). I.E., it will be obvious for all to see that he is stuck in New Jersey on a contract that is very close IF NOT the same as the one he could have had if he waited for New York.

Absolutely embarrassing. He is done as a basketball player the moment he goes to NJ. Especially if the deal involves all the pieces they mention. They are giving all their assets and they will be capped out for the foreseeable future. That roster he will have out there is only a tad better Cleveland and make no mistake Melo is not LBJ.

That's why I just can't buy New Jersey. Let me get this right--He's going to leave a pretty good situation in Denver for the Nets? A team that got beat at home by the Knicks without Stoudemire? He's going to be miserable in NJ if they are losing and they would for awhile. I understand he wants his money. He's also said he's made enough $$$ in his career and wants to win games. There has to be someone that can say "Look Melo even with the new CBA..you will get PAID. The Anthony family is not going broke anytime soon". When do the top entertainers and sports figures not get the top dollar? Stay strong Melo. I would lose some respect for the guy if he goes to the Nets.

[NYman15]

With the trade deadline just one week away, the Denver Nuggets are doing their due diligence and leaving no stone unturned as they weigh a potential Carmelo Anthony deal.

The Nuggets don't want to trade Anthony without exploring all of their options, which is why they gave one last call to the New Jersey Nets just one month after the team withdrew themselves from advanced negotiations involving Anthony.

Sources close to the situation confirmed that the Nuggets and Nets have once again held discussions regarding Anthony, but were quick to label the talks "exploratory." The Nuggets initiated the talks last week in hopes of bringing the Nets back to the table. Denver knows that New Jersey can produce the most attractive package for their superstar or, at the very least, help drive up the price for Anthony.

The general consensus around the league is that the Nuggets are making one last call to potential suitors before ultimately entering serious talks with the New York Knicks over the All-Star break.

Even with the Nets answering the phone, the Knicks are still the team to watch as the deadline approaches.

Talks between Denver and New York have progressed, and one source said that a deal between the two sides is "65 percent complete" with the specifics to be worked out when the two parties meet face to face over the All-Star break. A similar meeting has not been scheduled with the Nets, nor has a meeting between the team's officials and Anthony been discussed as of yet.

Both Denver and New York are hesitant to meet the other's needs, but all of the involved parties have started making plans that suggest a trade is inevitable. The Knicks have reached out to several free agents with the assumption that they'll have open roster spots to fill after the deadline, including one player that is very close with Anthony.

New York doesn't want to gut their roster for Anthony and Denver doesn't want to let the Knicks make out like a bandit in any deal. But at the end of the day, league sources continue to believe that one side will budge.

In recent years, All-Star Weekend has been a hotbed for trade rumors involving star players and that will likely continue this year. While teams generally don't finalize trades during the break, deals are often consummated and become official shortly after.

With trade talks expected to advance and face to face meetings already scheduled, it's very possible that Anthony has played his last game as a member of the Denver Nuggets.

http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=18800

[Fella504]

Source: 'The Nets Are Out' Of Carmelo Talks
Feb 17, 2011 08:50 AM EST


Reports have surfaced that the Nuggets and Nets are talking again about a trade to send Carmelo Anthony to New Jersey.

But a source with knowledge of the situation tells Alan Hahn of Newsday that the Nets reemergence is not genuine.

"The Nets are out," the source said.

Hahn writes that the Knicks are not confident that Denver actually knows what it wants from a deal for Anthony and offers his opinion that it is "amateur hour" in the Nuggets' front office.

Via Newsday


Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/21 ... z1EEHMoIzx

[Jitpal]

BrandonTierney Brandon Tierney
I'm hearing that in addition to Gallo, Fields, Chandler, Moz & multiple # 1's, Denver is also asking for 5 Knicks City Dancers, Al Trautwig and a piece of the iconic ceiling at MSG

LOL

Damnit Ujiri is driving a hard bargain, he really wants that Asbestos. -Jitpal