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Can we wait until end of next season to acquire a legit PG?

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Re: Can we wait until end of next season to acquire a legit PG? 

Post#261 » by moocow007 » Thu Jan 28, 2016 6:48 pm

Someone get Jose's mom a job in the Hawks FO. Then we'll see what happens.
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Re: RE: Re: Can we wait until end of next season to acquire a legit PG? 

Post#262 » by GONYK » Thu Jan 28, 2016 7:28 pm

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Bachynski at Westchester is similar to Rolo and probably a better rim protector. Or get Splitter back in the deal. Seraphin has been looking better recently too.

Is there a D-League player you won't overrate?

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There's talent in the dleague. Whiteside, Galloway and Tyler Johnson came out of there. Jordan McCray just got signed by the Suns. Erick Green is gone too. Kilpatrick is another one. Some guys just need the right system and a chance.


There is some marginal NBA talent if you look very hard, but you are talking about a league where Elliot Williams was the MVP. You can't take what a player does there and project it into the NBA. A 30 ppg scorer in the D-League is lucky if he can average 4 in the NBA.

You take a player like Bachynski, who is barely averaging more blocks than Lopez in a league where the players are smaller, slower, weaker, and just generally worse and then proclaim that Bachynski is the better rim protector? That is pretty nuts.

Any GM who trades a starter with the plan to replace him with someone from the D-League is asking to not have a job.
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Re: Can we wait until end of next season to acquire a legit PG? 

Post#263 » by reub » Thu Jan 28, 2016 8:05 pm

I think that Bachynski is a very good rim protector. He's always been one. He shoots well too. He just needs a chance.
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Re: Can we wait until end of next season to acquire a legit PG? 

Post#264 » by reub » Thu Jan 28, 2016 8:22 pm

Phil just signed someone from the D league so what were you saying?
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Re: RE: Re: Can we wait until end of next season to acquire a legit PG? 

Post#265 » by GONYK » Thu Jan 28, 2016 8:53 pm

ClydeRules wrote:Phil just signed someone from the D league so what were you saying?

You're right. Phil must be looking to trade Melo and sees Thanasis as his replacement. :roll:

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Re: Can we wait until end of next season to acquire a legit PG? 

Post#266 » by dakomish23 » Thu Jan 28, 2016 8:58 pm

Simple answer to the thread title

Hell **** no
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Re: Can we wait until end of next season to acquire a legit PG? 

Post#267 » by kej718 » Fri Jan 29, 2016 2:46 am

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kej718 wrote:Would much rather start Galloway, and have Grant as a backup. Maybe go for a SG?
Tony Allen?


Not enough shot creating ability there.


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Plus with Melo and KP in the line up he won't be getting to many opportunities to shoot :lol:
We need a guy to stop the other teams guy from scoring. We could put him or Affalo in the second unit for offense or defense depending on which we need more.
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Post#268 » by DickGrayson » Fri Jan 29, 2016 1:54 pm

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DickGrayson wrote:Give Grant some more time, it's way too **** early to drop him already.

I like Galloway, Calderon will get better.

But we can draft or trade for a young quality PG, question is, who is available?


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Calderon's shooting will always be an asset. He just needs to be limited to 18-22 minutes.
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Re: Can we wait until end of next season to acquire a legit PG? 

Post#269 » by moocow007 » Fri Jan 29, 2016 2:10 pm

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kej718 wrote:Would much rather start Galloway, and have Grant as a backup. Maybe go for a SG?
Tony Allen?


Not enough shot creating ability there.


Defense
Plus with Melo and KP in the line up he won't be getting to many opportunities to shoot :lol:
We need a guy to stop the other teams guy from scoring. We could put him or Affalo in the second unit for offense or defense depending on which we need more.


The Knicks struggle mightily to get points against better defenses. That's because it's very easy to guard then Knicks...still...even with them doing better in executing the Triangle. Why? Cause they don't have guys that can create easy shots for themselves or for others. Neither Anthony or Porzingis are guys that can setup their own shots or create shots for others. IMO we are seeing the effects of not having someone being able to do that in the wear and tear and physical toll that Anthony has had to endure for most of his time here in NY. He's had to create way too much for himself in order for the Knicks to be even remotely competitive. This year with Porzingis and a better cast, Anthony isn't doing that as much but the fact that he leads the Knicks in assists (at just 4 per game) is a clear indication that the Knicks rely on him way too much and that their ability to create shot opportunities is piss poor. This is especially so against top competition and/or in crunch time when opposing defense tighten up when they usually fall down flat. They need someone (doesn't have to be a PG, though obviously PG's are most prone to it) that can create easier shot opportunities for everyone else. Calderon is absolute ass in that regards and no one else is remotely able to do that. Pairing Galloway with Tony Allen in the backcourt will just guarantee that the Knicks lose by not as wide a margin as they would against top teams and/or lower scoring games with just about the same results. Even optimistically that starting back court isn't going to get them past any serious team assuming they manage to make the playoffs. Just can't. I know the cliche is that you win championships (or even get into playoffs) with defense but the reality is that having more points than the other team is what gets teams far. The Knicks struggle mightily creating shots against good defenses, it puts excessive strain on Anthony...and likely soon Porzingis...shortens their impact and longevity...as well as their impact on the defensive side (since they have to work so hard offensively to get points). Improving their offensive flow can actually improve their defense. How? Because they can then afford to mix and match defensive players in without having to worry about how are they going to score to get back into the game.

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