PG Thread: Only Reason To Watch This Year Is KP6

[Deeeez Knicks]

Rose looked good, KP looks awesome, Courtney Lee fits in great.

Jennings is a nut. Need him to play in control and be able to pick his spots off the bench. At least its only a 1 year deal. He is gonna be one of those players that is going to drive alcohol sales at the neighborhood liquor store just for me.

We really need Noah though. Our defense will be bad without him.

Did you actually watch the game or were you just boxscore culturing? Cuz BJ played way better than the story his stats told.

I watched the game (granted, lost interest in the 4th but still had it on). Jennings looked quick and got to the rim a few times, but he was out of control and forced some shots. When he was looking to pass he did well. But he was looking for his shot a little too much or forced a drive with no help into mutiple defenders. Basically, trying to do much on his own

No biggie, preseason, but would like to see him not look for his own shot so much, pick his spots better and not try to go full speed all the time. If he could play at different speeds I think it would help his game a lot.

[HEZI]

Yep - same thing stood out to me in terms of Melo approach.

Can see Melo thinking I got a legit PG now so I'm going to get my buckets.

It took about 1 minute and KP's 1st block to realize franchise is in KPs hands now and for long haul -- stay healthy unicorn.

It's only game 1 of preseason and I am not concerned about this going forward, I know Melo is a smart player and will figure this out. Here is what I feel like was the biggest difference between Olympic Melo and Knicks Melo, he trusts the talent on the Olympic team and comes out sharing the ball and waits for the offense to come to him. On the Knicks, he feels like it is his team so he goes out and tries to establish himself first, then he begins to defer to his teammates. I want him to play like he does in the Olympics, he has the talent this year to do trust the other players to make plays and let the offense find him. Often times the Knicks come out and force the ball to Melo and look at him to get them going, I want to see that change. It really needs to work the other way around. He needs to look to get the other guys going first, it will only make the game easier for him because the focus will shift. The reason the Knicks looked better in the 2nd half was because they didn't look to feature Melo, they gave the ball to Rose and Melo was either in the corner or helping KP get free by setting screens for him to curl. They need to let Rose run the show and Melo needs to have trust that his shots will come within the flow. He doesn't need to set the tone, let Rose and KP set the tone and then trust that your shots will come, but first look to get those guys in a rhythm first and foremost.

So funny fans getting mad at Melo already. Some of y'all look at it like why isn't he sharing and why isn't he trying to win the game. He's looking at it like I'm trying to get in rhythm. Don't overreact to a pre-season game folks.

I'm not mad at him, I already acknowledged it is preseason. The thing I am pointed out is that he is not establishing rhythm in the proper manner even if it is only preseason. Every player out there is trying to find a rhythm but there is a right and wrong way of doing it. He doesn't need to prove to anybody that he can shoot, we know he can shoot and we know he can score in isolation. If it's an exhibition game and the games don't count, why is he jacking up shots like he's trying to win the game? If anything he should be playing more loose and passing to guys trying to develop that chemistry and moving the ball. We all know, the players also all know that Melo is a gifted scorer and can score, we know this. Like I mentioned last night, he looked off Holiday a bunch of times, why? It's an exhibition game and the kid is trying to earn his spot in the rotation, don't you want to boost his confidence and get him some buckets and HELP HIM develop some rhythm? Share the ball man, preseason or not.

[MaseInYourFace]

It's only game 1 of preseason and I am not concerned about this going forward, I know Melo is a smart player and will figure this out. Here is what I feel like was the biggest difference between Olympic Melo and Knicks Melo, he trusts the talent on the Olympic team and comes out sharing the ball and waits for the offense to come to him. On the Knicks, he feels like it is his team so he goes out and tries to establish himself first, then he begins to defer to his teammates. I want him to play like he does in the Olympics, he has the talent this year to do trust the other players to make plays and let the offense find him. Often times the Knicks come out and force the ball to Melo and look at him to get them going, I want to see that change. It really needs to work the other way around. He needs to look to get the other guys going first, it will only make the game easier for him because the focus will shift. The reason the Knicks looked better in the 2nd half was because they didn't look to feature Melo, they gave the ball to Rose and Melo was either in the corner or helping KP get free by setting screens for him to curl. They need to let Rose run the show and Melo needs to have trust that his shots will come within the flow. He doesn't need to set the tone, let Rose and KP set the tone and then trust that your shots will come, but first look to get those guys in a rhythm first and foremost.

So funny fans getting mad at Melo already. Some of y'all look at it like why isn't he sharing and why isn't he trying to win the game. He's looking at it like I'm trying to get in rhythm. Don't overreact to a pre-season game folks.

I'm not mad at him, I already acknowledged it is preseason. The thing I am pointed out is that he is not establishing rhythm in the proper manner even if it is only preseason. Every player out there is trying to find a rhythm but there is a right and wrong way of doing it. He doesn't need to prove to anybody that he can shoot, we know he can shoot and we know he can score in isolation. If it's an exhibition game and the games don't count, why is he jacking up shots like he's trying to win the game? If anything he should be playing more loose and passing to guys trying to develop that chemistry and moving the ball. We all know, the players also all know that Melo is a gifted scorer and can score, we know this. Like I mentioned last night, he looked off Holiday a bunch of times, why? It's an exhibition game and the kid is trying to earn his spot in the rotation, don't you want to boost his confidence and get him some buckets and HELP HIM develop some rhythm? Share the ball man, preseason or not.

Let it play out man. I just been on this train too many times already. It's the same stuff over and over again.

[MaseInYourFace]

Rose looked good, KP looks awesome, Courtney Lee fits in great.

Jennings is a nut. Need him to play in control and be able to pick his spots off the bench. At least its only a 1 year deal. He is gonna be one of those players that is going to drive alcohol sales at the neighborhood liquor store just for me.

We really need Noah though. Our defense will be bad without him.

Did you actually watch the game or were you just boxscore culturing? Cuz BJ played way better than the story his stats told.

I watched the game (granted, lost interest in the 4th but still had it on). Jennings looked quick and got to the rim a few times, but he was out of control and forced some shots. When he was looking to pass he did well. But he was looking for his shot a little too much or forced a drive with no help into mutiple defenders. Basically, trying to do much on his own

No biggie, preseason, but would like to see him not look for his own shot so much, pick his spots better and not try to go full speed all the time. If he could play at different speeds I think it would help his game a lot.

Yeah he's definitely gotta learn to pick his spots. I definitely agree on that but he's not gonna be Andre Miller out there. Also look at the roster, Knicks kind of need him to be aggressive and look to score at times. He's basically their offensive spark plug as well. So fans gotta take that into account as we move forward.

[GONYK]

Yep - same thing stood out to me in terms of Melo approach.

Can see Melo thinking I got a legit PG now so I'm going to get my buckets.

It took about 1 minute and KP's 1st block to realize franchise is in KPs hands now and for long haul -- stay healthy unicorn.

It's only game 1 of preseason and I am not concerned about this going forward, I know Melo is a smart player and will figure this out. Here is what I feel like was the biggest difference between Olympic Melo and Knicks Melo, he trusts the talent on the Olympic team and comes out sharing the ball and waits for the offense to come to him. On the Knicks, he feels like it is his team so he goes out and tries to establish himself first, then he begins to defer to his teammates. I want him to play like he does in the Olympics, he has the talent this year to do trust the other players to make plays and let the offense find him. Often times the Knicks come out and force the ball to Melo and look at him to get them going, I want to see that change. It really needs to work the other way around. He needs to look to get the other guys going first, it will only make the game easier for him because the focus will shift. The reason the Knicks looked better in the 2nd half was because they didn't look to feature Melo, they gave the ball to Rose and Melo was either in the corner or helping KP get free by setting screens for him to curl. They need to let Rose run the show and Melo needs to have trust that his shots will come within the flow. He doesn't need to set the tone, let Rose and KP set the tone and then trust that your shots will come, but first look to get those guys in a rhythm first and foremost.

So funny fans getting mad at Melo already. Some of y'all look at it like why isn't he sharing and why isn't he trying to win the game. He's looking at it like I'm trying to get in rhythm, it is pre-season this is what I do to get going. Don't overreact to a pre-season game folks.

Agreed. Players and coaches carry objectives into a preseason game, and very few of them include winning the game. I think Melo was just trying to get to his spots and work on specific things. It wasn't pretty, but this is the environment to do that.

[NYKnickerbocker]

all those summer videos of melo showing off that floater and aint pull it out

guess he gunna save it for lebron

[HEZI]

So funny fans getting mad at Melo already. Some of y'all look at it like why isn't he sharing and why isn't he trying to win the game. He's looking at it like I'm trying to get in rhythm. Don't overreact to a pre-season game folks.

I'm not mad at him, I already acknowledged it is preseason. The thing I am pointed out is that he is not establishing rhythm in the proper manner even if it is only preseason. Every player out there is trying to find a rhythm but there is a right and wrong way of doing it. He doesn't need to prove to anybody that he can shoot, we know he can shoot and we know he can score in isolation. If it's an exhibition game and the games don't count, why is he jacking up shots like he's trying to win the game? If anything he should be playing more loose and passing to guys trying to develop that chemistry and moving the ball. We all know, the players also all know that Melo is a gifted scorer and can score, we know this. Like I mentioned last night, he looked off Holiday a bunch of times, why? It's an exhibition game and the kid is trying to earn his spot in the rotation, don't you want to boost his confidence and get him some buckets and HELP HIM develop some rhythm? Share the ball man, preseason or not.

Let it play out man. I just been on this train too many times already. It's the same stuff over and over again.

Like I said, I know Melo is a smart guy on the court and he will figure it out, the thing is I don't want to wait until January for him to do so. The earlier the better, I don't want to see bad habits start to change after the Knicks are already in the hole halfway into the season and have to climb their way back out. You actually have never been on this train before, this train is different. For the first time in his career, Melo might not be the best player on his team anymore, it's time to look at things differently now.

[JBreezeNY]

I'm not mad at him, I already acknowledged it is preseason. The thing I am pointed out is that he is not establishing rhythm in the proper manner even if it is only preseason. Every player out there is trying to find a rhythm but there is a right and wrong way of doing it. He doesn't need to prove to anybody that he can shoot, we know he can shoot and we know he can score in isolation. If it's an exhibition game and the games don't count, why is he jacking up shots like he's trying to win the game? If anything he should be playing more loose and passing to guys trying to develop that chemistry and moving the ball. We all know, the players also all know that Melo is a gifted scorer and can score, we know this. Like I mentioned last night, he looked off Holiday a bunch of times, why? It's an exhibition game and the kid is trying to earn his spot in the rotation, don't you want to boost his confidence and get him some buckets and HELP HIM develop some rhythm? Share the ball man, preseason or not.

Let it play out man. I just been on this train too many times already. It's the same stuff over and over again.

Like I said, I know Melo is a smart guy on the court and he will figure it out, the thing is I don't want to wait until January for him to do so. The earlier the better, I don't want to see bad habits start to change after the Knicks are already in the hole halfway into the season and have to climb their way back out. You actually have never been on this train before, this train is different. For the first time in his career, Melo might not be the best player on his team anymore, it's time to look at things differently now.

Whatever you smoking I need that.

[CJackson]

Maybe this is where ESPN is basing their predictions off of?

This reminds me of that sitcom episode* where the guy is making predictions based on which NFL helmet he likes best.

*Happy Days?

ESPN = A Bad Omelette

[moocow007]

Maybe this is where ESPN is basing their predictions off of?

This reminds me of that sitcom episode* where the guy is making predictions based on which NFL helmet he likes best.

*Happy Days?

I think it was Cheers. Diane was betting on football teams based on uniform colors and what animals were in the team logo's. And she was winning.

[HEZI]

Let it play out man. I just been on this train too many times already. It's the same stuff over and over again.

Like I said, I know Melo is a smart guy on the court and he will figure it out, the thing is I don't want to wait until January for him to do so. The earlier the better, I don't want to see bad habits start to change after the Knicks are already in the hole halfway into the season and have to climb their way back out. You actually have never been on this train before, this train is different. For the first time in his career, Melo might not be the best player on his team anymore, it's time to look at things differently now.

Whatever you smoking I need that.

It's called Porzingis and it smells like Roses, here take a puff

[JBreezeNY]

Like I said, I know Melo is a smart guy on the court and he will figure it out, the thing is I don't want to wait until January for him to do so. The earlier the better, I don't want to see bad habits start to change after the Knicks are already in the hole halfway into the season and have to climb their way back out. You actually have never been on this train before, this train is different. For the first time in his career, Melo might not be the best player on his team anymore, it's time to look at things differently now.

Whatever you smoking I need that.

It's called Porzingis and it smells like Roses, here take a puff

Nah I'm good, that brand needs a bunch of tweaks & potent consistency for it to smell anything like a rose.

[Capn'O]

“We didn’t really have nothing to go off — a game plan,’’ Anthony said. “We need to protect the paint. It’s a weird team to play against without no scouting report. We know they want to shoot 40 3s and that’s not something we’ve worked on.’’

it might not be too early to join the tank if this is for real

I preach optimism but keep my tank prepared.

[HEZI]

Whatever you smoking I need that.

It's called Porzingis and it smells like Roses, here take a puff

Nah I'm good, that brand needs a bunch of tweaks & potent consistency for it to smell anything like a rose.

Well if you never give it a sniff then you will never know what it smells like

[JBreezeNY]

It's called Porzingis and it smells like Roses, here take a puff

Nah I'm good, that brand needs a bunch of tweaks & potent consistency for it to smell anything like a rose.

Well if you never give it a sniff then you will never know what it smells like

All I need is a whiff I don't need to puff it

[Capn'O]

The Second Unit:
Brandon Jennings: To sum it up in a word, pressing. He got into the lane a LOT which is promising but he tried to force both his shots and some passes along the way. He hit a nice jumper but bricked a bit also. Overall, this one felt like a player who wanted to do too much too soon. His ability to get inside and willingness to pass though were both good signs as the rust comes off.

Honestly, I loved it. He looked to me like a guy that just got his speed back and is trying some stuff. He needs reps and this is a perfect time to do it. But I was really happy at how his condition looked. He looks fast again.

[CJackson]

it might not be too early to join the tank if this is for real

Lol I see sham is warming up.

thibs rolling over in his grave at that quote

I'm deeply concerned. I'm not sure Hornacek can handle the hate. He has never been subjected to Shamgoddian contempt.

[god shammgod]

It's called Porzingis and it smells like Roses, here take a puff

Nah I'm good, that brand needs a bunch of tweaks & potent consistency for it to smell anything like a rose.

Well if you never give it a sniff then you will never know what it smells like

this sh*t got weird quick

[HEZI]

Nah I'm good, that brand needs a bunch of tweaks & potent consistency for it to smell anything like a rose.

Well if you never give it a sniff then you will never know what it smells like

this sh*t got weird quick

You want a hit?

[Sark]

The Second Unit:
Brandon Jennings: To sum it up in a word, pressing. He got into the lane a LOT which is promising but he tried to force both his shots and some passes along the way. He hit a nice jumper but bricked a bit also. Overall, this one felt like a player who wanted to do too much too soon. His ability to get inside and willingness to pass though were both good signs as the rust comes off.

Honestly, I loved it. He looked to me like a guy that just got his speed back and is trying some stuff. He needs reps and this is a perfect time to do it. But I was really happy at how his condition looked. He looks fast again.

Jennings has always been able to get into the lane. Being able to finish or making a smart decision is what has kept him from being a good player. I don't see that changing. He is what he is. An inefficient chucker.