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Should Melo Be Traded

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Re: Official Melo Trade Thread: Knicks still looking for a deal after PJax's departure 

Post#261 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Thu Jun 29, 2017 6:53 pm

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Make that two years. It's melos team until he leaves. Kp loves melo's Dick and would have no problem playing 2nd fiddle. Disgusting


He's got a player option at the end of this upcoming season. Chances are he opts out. Don't understand the need to get graphic, but it's possible that Melo actually takes the pressure off KP...because...that's what KP said and logically it makes sense.

lol @ this

no.

last year melo didn't even command a double team, teams aren't afraid of him anymore because he's pretty much a low volume scorer at this point.


You can be a focus of defense without being double teamed.
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Re: Official Melo Trade Thread: Knicks still looking for a deal after PJax's departure 

Post#262 » by mpharris36 » Thu Jun 29, 2017 6:54 pm

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Caught the tail end of it. Morey said something to the effect of 'the more Team USA players you can get, the better.' Says we have 6-7 guys now, wants to get up to 8-10.


from rockets website. Has to be talking about Melo no?


PG? But do they have the assets? Probably not


no way do they have the assets. Pacers asked for Brooklyn and Lakers 1st rounders next year. Cavs nor the rockets have enough to get anywhere near that.
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Re: Official Melo Trade Thread: Knicks still looking for a deal after PJax's departure 

Post#263 » by Traveyknicks23 » Thu Jun 29, 2017 6:54 pm

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Caught the tail end of it. Morey said something to the effect of 'the more Team USA players you can get, the better.' Says we have 6-7 guys now, wants to get up to 8-10.


from rockets website. Has to be talking about Melo no?


PG? But do they have the assets? Probably not


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Re: Official Melo Trade Thread: Knicks still looking for a deal after PJax's departure 

Post#264 » by louieOrr » Thu Jun 29, 2017 6:55 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:melo to cavs still seems possible

eventually the cavs are gonna give up on a paul george trade. melo is their last hope


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Re: Official Melo Trade Thread: Knicks still looking for a deal after PJax's departure 

Post#265 » by sushibear » Thu Jun 29, 2017 6:57 pm

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Not disgusting if he isn't ready then you don't put the franchise on his back yet why would you do that? He like playing next to melo you may not like it And don't take this the wrong way but tough ****.


I got a poster already saying kp is scared and now you claiming that he's not ready? Oh lord. I'm about to have a stroke. In melo we trust.....I AM GOING TO FAINT.


Has he proved he is ready? Could you really be comfortable with him in that position right now?
Melo will be a nonfactor very soon I get you don't like melo but your basing this off your personally feelings in due time his ass will be up outta here lol


If melo was an aging pg or at least an unselfish SF I would have no problems having him here for another year or two. I just want kp to take the next step right now like KAT in Minnesota and see the youthmovement without someone impeding. I'm just afraid melo will be here till he retires. I'm afraid of that. I have doubts is all I'm saying. I'm slightly paranoid on what dolan has up his sleeves.
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Re: Official Melo Trade Thread: Knicks still looking for a deal after PJax's departure 

Post#266 » by ag3 » Thu Jun 29, 2017 6:58 pm

If we can get all non-guaranteed contracts plus a pick for Melo from Rockets, you do it 100%.
Would open up a ton of cap space immediately.
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Re: Official Melo Trade Thread: Knicks still looking for a deal after PJax's departure 

Post#267 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Thu Jun 29, 2017 6:59 pm

ag3 wrote:If we can get all non-guaranteed contracts plus a pick for Melo from Rockets, you do it 100%.
Would open up a ton of cap space immediately.


I'd still want a pick. Cap space is nice and all, but seeing as we have no immediate need to spend any of it (and there aren't any realistic RFA targets), it's just a luxury at this point. I wish there were a way to pawn Noah off on them as well...but there isn't.
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Re: Official Melo Trade Thread: Knicks still looking for a deal after PJax's departure 

Post#268 » by HEZI » Thu Jun 29, 2017 7:01 pm

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from rockets website. Has to be talking about Melo no?


PG? But do they have the assets? Probably not


no way do they have the assets. Pacers asked for Brooklyn and Lakers 1st rounders next year. Cavs nor the rockets have enough to get anywhere near that.


Yeah I think you're right. So the Knicks are just looking for instant cap space in a potential deal with HOU, right? Do the Rockets have any 1st round picks to give?
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Re: Official Melo Trade Thread: Knicks still looking for a deal after PJax's departure 

Post#269 » by NOOB77 » Thu Jun 29, 2017 7:01 pm

It will probably be soemthing like Ryan Anderson and NGC and pick for Melo if he is traded to the Rockets
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Re: Official Melo Trade Thread: Knicks still looking for a deal after PJax's departure 

Post#270 » by blueNorange » Thu Jun 29, 2017 7:02 pm

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He's got a player option at the end of this upcoming season. Chances are he opts out. Don't understand the need to get graphic, but it's possible that Melo actually takes the pressure off KP...because...that's what KP said and logically it makes sense.

lol @ this

no.

last year melo didn't even command a double team, teams aren't afraid of him anymore because he's pretty much a low volume scorer at this point.


You can be a focus of defense without being double teamed.

yeah of course, but not in this case. with melo it's more "let him shoot his team out of the game" type of approach.

and that's what melo does, whenever he's not in rhythm he'll say "f my team" and keeps on shooting while ignoring everyone else until he gets into a groove.
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Re: Official Melo Trade Thread: Knicks still looking for a deal after PJax's departure 

Post#271 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Thu Jun 29, 2017 7:02 pm

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blueNorange wrote:lol @ this

no.

last year melo didn't even command a double team, teams aren't afraid of him anymore because he's pretty much a low volume scorer at this point.


You can be a focus of defense without being double teamed.

yeah of course, but not in this case. with melo it's more "let him shoot his team out of the game" type of approach.

and that's what melo does, whenever he's not in rhythm he'll say "f my team" and keeps on shooting while ignoring everyone else until he gets into a groove.


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Re: Official Melo Trade Thread: Knicks still looking for a deal after PJax's departure 

Post#272 » by sushibear » Thu Jun 29, 2017 7:05 pm

blueNorange wrote:
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blueNorange wrote:lol @ this

no.

last year melo didn't even command a double team, teams aren't afraid of him anymore because he's pretty much a low volume scorer at this point.


You can be a focus of defense without being double teamed.

yeah of course, but not in this case. with melo it's more "let him shoot his team out of the game" type of approach.

and that's what melo does, whenever he's not in rhythm he'll say "f my team" and keeps on shooting while ignoring everyone else until he gets into a groove.


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Re: Official Melo Trade Thread: Knicks still looking for a deal after PJax's departure 

Post#273 » by mpharris36 » Thu Jun 29, 2017 7:06 pm

NYKfan77 wrote:It will probably be soemthing like Ryan Anderson and NGC and pick for Melo if he is traded to the Rockets


thats what im thinking. But I would really push them for a 2020 and 2022 first rounder. Rockets need to act fast and unless they can get a S&T done with milsap in the next 24 hours they are going to lose all those exceptions.
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Re: Official Melo Trade Thread: Knicks still looking for a deal after PJax's departure 

Post#274 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Thu Jun 29, 2017 7:08 pm

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NYKfan77 wrote:It will probably be soemthing like Ryan Anderson and NGC and pick for Melo if he is traded to the Rockets


thats what im thinking. But I would really push them for a 2020 and 2022 first rounder. Rockets need to act fast and unless they can get a S&T done with milsap in the next 24 hours they are going to lose all those exceptions.


I want Gentile also. If we can't get two firsts, which I doubt we'd be able to, give me Gentile and a first.
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Re: Official Melo Trade Thread: Knicks still looking for a deal after PJax's departure 

Post#275 » by mpharris36 » Thu Jun 29, 2017 7:09 pm

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PG? But do they have the assets? Probably not


no way do they have the assets. Pacers asked for Brooklyn and Lakers 1st rounders next year. Cavs nor the rockets have enough to get anywhere near that.


Yeah I think you're right. So the Knicks are just looking for instant cap space in a potential deal with HOU, right? Do the Rockets have any 1st round picks to give?


we would have to take some $$ back but we probably will be able to save some cap space if its anderson (especially if we can send him to a 3rd team).

They can give there 2020 and 2022 first round picks
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Re: Official Melo Trade Thread: Knicks still looking for a deal after PJax's departure 

Post#276 » by mpharris36 » Thu Jun 29, 2017 7:10 pm

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NYKfan77 wrote:It will probably be soemthing like Ryan Anderson and NGC and pick for Melo if he is traded to the Rockets


thats what im thinking. But I would really push them for a 2020 and 2022 first rounder. Rockets need to act fast and unless they can get a S&T done with milsap in the next 24 hours they are going to lose all those exceptions.


I want Gentile also. If we can't get two firsts, which I doubt we'd be able to, give me Gentile and a first.


every team was asking for 2 1st rounders to just to get out of Anderson entire contract. We would be basically handing them over Melo for Anderson in that sense.

Unless Anderson has value throughout the league where we take another contract back from a 3rd team and they get Anderson and give us an asset.
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Re: Official Melo Trade Thread: Knicks still looking for a deal after PJax's departure 

Post#277 » by HarthorneWingo » Thu Jun 29, 2017 7:12 pm

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knickstape21 wrote:Rockets just traded cash considerations to Dallas for Jared Uthoff. Maybe looking to make another big move?


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Post#278 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Thu Jun 29, 2017 7:13 pm

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thats what im thinking. But I would really push them for a 2020 and 2022 first rounder. Rockets need to act fast and unless they can get a S&T done with milsap in the next 24 hours they are going to lose all those exceptions.


I want Gentile also. If we can't get two firsts, which I doubt we'd be able to, give me Gentile and a first.


every team was asking for 2 1st rounders to just to get out of Anderson entire contract. We would be basically handing them over Melo for Anderson in that sense.

Unless Anderson has value throughout the league where we take another contract back from a 3rd team and they get Anderson and give us an asset.


Crap, I thought we were still talking about Melo for non-guaranteed deals only. My bad. I'm not taking on Anderson's deal unless we're getting 3 firsts. :lol:
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Post#279 » by Traveyknicks23 » Thu Jun 29, 2017 7:14 pm

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thats what im thinking. But I would really push them for a 2020 and 2022 first rounder. Rockets need to act fast and unless they can get a S&T done with milsap in the next 24 hours they are going to lose all those exceptions.


I want Gentile also. If we can't get two firsts, which I doubt we'd be able to, give me Gentile and a first.


every team was asking for 2 1st rounders to just to get out of Anderson entire contract. We would be basically handing them over Melo for Anderson in that sense.

Unless Anderson has value throughout the league where we take another contract back from a 3rd team and they get Anderson and give us an asset.


We are selling low we shouldn't they think they have championship aspirations and they feel melo is that missing piece then you make them pay. Ryan Anderson and that contract means as finessed ourselves.
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Re: Official Melo Trade Thread: Knicks still looking for a deal after PJax's departure 

Post#280 » by mpharris36 » Thu Jun 29, 2017 7:18 pm

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Crap, I thought we were still talking about Melo for non-guaranteed deals only. My bad. I'm not taking on Anderson's deal unless we're getting 3 firsts. :lol:


they don't have enough non guaranteed deals to get us there. I think they may be getting close to Eric Gordon and NGT deals for Melo. Still would want a pick though.
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