PG: Lakers vs. Frank - Remi Keys pg 16

Clyde_Style · Post #261 » by **Clyde_Style** » Wed Dec 13, 2017 5:26 am

I'll say one thing.

If Jeff can turn Beasley into a productive player I'll eat my damn hat.

HarthorneWingo · Post #262 » by **HarthorneWingo** » Wed Dec 13, 2017 5:36 am

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HarthorneWingo · Post #263 » by **HarthorneWingo** » Wed Dec 13, 2017 5:48 am

I love the play where Frank snuffs Randle's shot in the paint. Randle thought he could overpower Frank.

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Bill Pidto · Post #264 » by **Bill Pidto** » Wed Dec 13, 2017 5:52 am

Jeff is doing a great job coaching this year, and the organization is right to let these guys roll and compete. You don't pull the rug out from under KP and the rest of this team like that. You let them grow and fight for the playoffs if that's what they want. How is that not a huge positive for a young team, to rally around its young star and defy expectations?

I also love what Jeff has done with Frank so far. Jeff is a real coach, and had a very nice career as a player. He knows this isn't NBA 2K. He knows this isn't Candyland. He's been bringing Frank along patiently, and now we're starting to see him really find his way. If you ask me, between the improvements in KP, Frank, Timmy, Kanter and Doug... Jeff seems like a perfect fit for a rebuilding and developing team.

If you're the kind of fan who still thinks the Knicks should force this roster to lose games somehow.. you're just wrong. You're wrong to be annoyed by the way this season is going. You're just wrong.

I bet the fans who want Jeff fired are the fans who begged for Luke Walton as Knicks coach. Just like you begged for Tibs and DSJ and Mudiay and for Melo to stay. I bet cha.

Jeff stays, the tank dies, and Perry is allowed more than half an off-season to position this team. They're off to a great start, and I won't allow the next loss to shift my thinking. Let the Knicks live.

Post #265 » by **Capn'O** » Wed Dec 13, 2017 5:57 am

Clyde_Style wrote:I'll say one thing.

If Jeff can turn Beasley into a productive player I'll eat my damn hat.

What are we talking about here? PER above 15? What's the benchmark?

I wanna see some hat eating.

HarthorneWingo · Post #266 » by **HarthorneWingo** » Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:11 am

Capn'O wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:I'll say one thing.

If Jeff can turn Beasley into a productive player I'll eat my damn hat.

What are we talking about here? PER above 15? What's the benchmark?

I wanna see some hat eating.

The Beaser's career PER is 15.3. Just two seasons ago he was almost 23.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/beaslmi01.html

Clyde_Style · Post #267 » by **Clyde_Style** » Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:16 am

Capn'O wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:I'll say one thing.

If Jeff can turn Beasley into a productive player I'll eat my damn hat.

What are we talking about here? PER above 15? What's the benchmark?

I wanna see some hat eating.

Ha Ha sounds like a sig bet

Well I just checked and this season his TS% is .551 so that's pretty good and it surprised me. Small sample size though.

His career PER numbers are super erratic. If he gets it back to 15 that would be great, because that would probably mean he is cutting down on his turnovers and stupid fouls

but he also has to get dialed in defensively.

A stat I don't entirely understand, but maybe to keep an eye on for him is BPM. He is negative his whole career which probably tells a more consistent story about him being a net negative than the wild variations in his PER.

Or not

Just play defense, cut down on the turnovers and stupid fouls. The eye test will be good enough.

Post #268 » by **Capn'O** » Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:20 am

Clyde_Style wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:I'll say one thing.

If Jeff can turn Beasley into a productive player I'll eat my damn hat.

What are we talking about here? PER above 15? What's the benchmark?

I wanna see some hat eating.

Ha Ha sounds like a sig bet

Well I just checked and this season his TS% is .551 so that's pretty good and it surprised me. Small sample size though.

His career PER numbers are super erratic. If he gets it back to 15 that would be great, because that would probably mean he is cutting down on his turnovers and stupid fouls

but he also has to get dialed in defensively.

A stat I don't entirely understand, but maybe to keep an eye on for him is BPM. He is negative his whole career which probably tells a more consistent story about him being a net negative than the wild variations in his PER.

Or not

Just play defense, cut down on the turnovers and stupid fouls. The eye test will be good enough.

I'm not hitching a sig bet wagon to Beasley. Plus, BAF. I just wanted to see some good ol' fashioned hat eating.

I liked the game he played vs. Hotlanta. I wouldn't call it good defense but fouling out in 10 minutes is a prime example of "the ol' college try."

HarthorneWingo · Post #269 » by **HarthorneWingo** » Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:20 am

Clyde_Style wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:I'll say one thing.

If Jeff can turn Beasley into a productive player I'll eat my damn hat.

What are we talking about here? PER above 15? What's the benchmark?

I wanna see some hat eating.

Ha Ha sounds like a sig bet

Well I just checked and this season his TS% is .551 so that's pretty good and it surprised me. Small sample size though.

His career PER numbers are super erratic. If he gets it back to 15 that would be great, because that would probably mean he is cutting down on his turnovers and stupid fouls

but he also has to get dialed in defensively.

A stat I don't entirely understand, but maybe to keep an eye on for him is BPM. He is negative his whole career which probably tells a more consistent story about him being a net negative than the wild variations in his PER.

Or not

Just play defense, cut down on the turnovers and stupid fouls. The eye test will be good enough.

He's also been a negative VORPer. I'd like to see him improve on his VORPing.

Post #270 » by **Capn'O** » Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:21 am

Absolutely, he needs to VORP better than he has.

Clyde_Style · Post #271 » by **Clyde_Style** » Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:33 am

Capn'O wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
What are we talking about here? PER above 15? What's the benchmark?

I wanna see some hat eating.

Ha Ha sounds like a sig bet

Well I just checked and this season his TS% is .551 so that's pretty good and it surprised me. Small sample size though.

His career PER numbers are super erratic. If he gets it back to 15 that would be great, because that would probably mean he is cutting down on his turnovers and stupid fouls

but he also has to get dialed in defensively.

A stat I don't entirely understand, but maybe to keep an eye on for him is BPM. He is negative his whole career which probably tells a more consistent story about him being a net negative than the wild variations in his PER.

Or not

Just play defense, cut down on the turnovers and stupid fouls. The eye test will be good enough.

I'm not hitching a sig bet wagon to Beasley. Plus, BAF. I just wanted to see some good ol' fashioned hat eating.

I liked the game he played vs. Hotlanta. I wouldn't call it good defense but fouling out in 10 minutes is a prime example of "the ol' college try."

Would you settle for a shoe?

fatalogic · Post #272 » by **fatalogic** » Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:35 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:I love the play where Frank snuffs Randle's shot in the paint. Randle thought he could overpower Frank.

Watch on YouTube

I've been noticing his post defense the past few games. The kid is crazy strong for a 19 year old and he not even close to his peak strength wise. I feel like he might end up similar to harden. I think Harden has a quicker first step but he usually moves like he doesn't any fast twitch muscle fibers in his body. Every movement is deliberate and he just gets to is spots with the right balance of strength, pace and clever moves.

Oscirus · Post #273 » by **Oscirus** » Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:38 am

Why is espn so desperate to make Lonzo a star? Most of the espn highlights are Lonzo related in a loss

Clyde_Style · Post #274 » by **Clyde_Style** » Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:40 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
What are we talking about here? PER above 15? What's the benchmark?

I wanna see some hat eating.

Ha Ha sounds like a sig bet

Well I just checked and this season his TS% is .551 so that's pretty good and it surprised me. Small sample size though.

His career PER numbers are super erratic. If he gets it back to 15 that would be great, because that would probably mean he is cutting down on his turnovers and stupid fouls

but he also has to get dialed in defensively.

A stat I don't entirely understand, but maybe to keep an eye on for him is BPM. He is negative his whole career which probably tells a more consistent story about him being a net negative than the wild variations in his PER.

Or not

Just play defense, cut down on the turnovers and stupid fouls. The eye test will be good enough.

He's also been a negative VORPer. I'd like to see him improve on his VORPing.

Now you're talking

I'm looking for the Beas to up their WAGGLE, cut down on their seasonal MUFF and do something to improve their overall DING.

but to be perfectly honest I would be happy if he just increased his TUCHUS

TheBigBoss · Post #275 » by **TheBigBoss** » Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:48 am

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Milk · Post #276 » by **Milk** » Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:56 am

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Post #277 » by **Capn'O** » Wed Dec 13, 2017 7:00 am

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Damn.

That's not trivial either as Ball looks like he's getting it together.

GEOLINK · Post #278 » by **GEOLINK** » Wed Dec 13, 2017 7:04 am

Finally Hornacek swallowed his pride and played Frank in big, important minutes. And it paid off.

GEOLINK · Post #279 » by **GEOLINK** » Wed Dec 13, 2017 7:04 am

Oscirus wrote:Why is espn so desperate to make Lonzo a star? Most of the espn highlights are Lonzo related in a loss

It's the Tim Tebow thing all over again. No wonder ESPN is losing money and viewers.

aq_ua · Post #280 » by **aq_ua** » Wed Dec 13, 2017 8:04 am

Ok, which one of you did this?

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