NYKWarlock wrote:Not the kind of person I want in charge of my country.
Talk about your proverbial witch hunt....
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NYKWarlock wrote:Not the kind of person I want in charge of my country.
K-DOT wrote:stuporman wrote:Trump is the President therefore his decisions, words and actions effect every citizens' life.... Hillary aint nothing so her decisions, words and actions don't effect everyone.
That's why Trump threads are relevant right now but Hillary ones are usually just petty, whiny men bitching about a woman that deserve to be locked.
More so the first sentence, but this is pretty much it
Also, cause this thread is sourced pretty comprehensively, even though people might not agree with his conclusions, Clyde does his homework. All the Hillary threads have no sourcing or are just Q conspiracies
If someone found actual, credible sourcing that showed Hillary had people assassinated, we'd let it stand
?Capn'O wrote:stuporman wrote:Trump is the President therefore his decisions, words and actions effect every citizens' life.... Hillary aint nothing so her decisions, words and actions don't effect everyone.
That's why Trump threads are relevant right now but Hillary ones are usually just petty, whiny men bitching about a woman that deserve to be locked.
But I thought there were only two politicians ever.
?Capn'O wrote:stuporman wrote:Trump is the President therefore his decisions, words and actions effect every citizens' life.... Hillary aint nothing so her decisions, words and actions don't effect everyone.
That's why Trump threads are relevant right now but Hillary ones are usually just petty, whiny men bitching about a woman that deserve to be locked.
But I thought there were only two politicians ever.

Phish Tank wrote:What's Rapey up to nowadays?
stuporman wrote:Trump is the President therefore his decisions, words and actions effect every citizens' life.... Hillary aint nothing so her decisions, words and actions don't effect everyone.
That's why Trump threads are relevant right now but Hillary ones are usually just petty, whiny men bitching about a woman that deserve to be locked.

Capn'O wrote:The malicious, poorly sourced, crackpot conspiracy theories the mod team is cracking down on have very little to do with red and conservatism. This isn't the place for it. We typically have a higher standard than most forums for our basketball discussion (we do) and hold a similar standard for current affairs. If anything, I'd hope to make classic conservatism and red voices grounded in sourced reality more welcome, though I may (do) disagree. There's a ton of it and it needn't be lumped or allied with the fringe which is grounded in utter and complete nonsense.

Greenie wrote:stuporman wrote:Trump is the President therefore his decisions, words and actions effect every citizens' life.... Hillary aint nothing so her decisions, words and actions don't effect everyone.
That's why Trump threads are relevant right now but Hillary ones are usually just petty, whiny men bitching about a woman that deserve to be locked.
Nope.
Trump tweets out dumb **** that doesn’t have **** to do with his job all of the time and you still see people to take that opportunity to stand on some soap box that morphs into general Trump hate that been hashed out over and over again.
The LeBron James tweet is a perfect example. Him saying whatever he said about LeBron doesn’t doesn’t effect this country at all.
It’s cool and all to bash Trump(I really don’t give a damn about what’s said here about him since I believe most of it) but there is another side to this fuqed up coin we call American politics and it’s the red side. That side seems to always be snuffed out and muted. I’m not even talking about Bill right now. Some poster was cussed out for stating an opinion in one of these Trump threads.
Trump winning should have been a wake up call to all waving that blue flag. Maybe it’s time to start listening to all sides before we end up with Trump being re-elected.
A lot of mofo’s stayed real quiet and hid their thoughts and feelings during the election due to the potential of being bashed to bits. Those same people voted for Trump. I think we’re going to see the same mess play out if we don’t start to see AT LEAST two-way CIVIL conversing.
This is coming from a registered INDEPENDENT
SOUL wrote:Greenie wrote:stuporman wrote:Trump is the President therefore his decisions, words and actions effect every citizens' life.... Hillary aint nothing so her decisions, words and actions don't effect everyone.
That's why Trump threads are relevant right now but Hillary ones are usually just petty, whiny men bitching about a woman that deserve to be locked.
Nope.
Trump tweets out dumb **** that doesn’t have **** to do with his job all of the time and you still see people to take that opportunity to stand on some soap box that morphs into general Trump hate that been hashed out over and over again.
The LeBron James tweet is a perfect example. Him saying whatever he said about LeBron doesn’t doesn’t effect this country at all.
It’s cool and all to bash Trump(I really don’t give a damn about what’s said here about him since I believe most of it) but there is another side to this fuqed up coin we call American politics and it’s the red side. That side seems to always be snuffed out and muted. I’m not even talking about Bill right now. Some poster was cussed out for stating an opinion in one of these Trump threads.
Trump winning should have been a wake up call to all waving that blue flag. Maybe it’s time to start listening to all sides before we end up with Trump being re-elected.
A lot of mofo’s stayed real quiet and hid their thoughts and feelings during the election due to the potential of being bashed to bits. Those same people voted for Trump. I think we’re going to see the same mess play out if we don’t start to see AT LEAST two-way CIVIL conversing.
This is coming from a registered INDEPENDENT
"Listening to all sides" is just as wack as "both sides are to blame". I don't care what side you're on, blue or red, human beings were not born to be stuffed inside of a box and then forced to agree with everything thrown into that box because it's a "Republican" or "Democratic" value. I am way more left-leaning, but there are tons of things that I don't agree with as far as their tolerance on certain things or hypocrisies with arguments that they have with the right.
What is there to listen to if they're against the very fiber of what you believe in? If they believe that minorities are somehow less important than white people, if they believe gay people shouldn't have rights, if "LOL WOMEN'S RIGHTS" is a funny joke to them, these people don't deserve to be listened to because history will prove them wrong in time. This isn't saying that all conservatives or Republicans are like that, but that whole "Why can't both sides just listen to each other?" argument usually stems from the left getting mad at comments that involve non-negotiable topics, and the right are wondering why they aren't accepted when presenting these viewpoints implying that certain people don't hold value because of things out of their control.
I can understand debating and listening to views on illegal immigration (as long as it isn't tinged with racism), how government should be ran/handled, even people's views on religion and abortion as long as they're not trying to force it upon others if they want to have that choice, etc. The difference in believing that abortion and/or gay rights is that those that do aren't forcing you to abort your babies, or putting you in an arraigned marriage with a gay person, it's the people against these things (which are mostly conservatives) that want to try to decide how somebody else's life should be governed. It's like, just mind your business (as long as it's not something highly illegal obv).
The bigger issue is that most of these wackos on message boards or Reddit are Alex Jones loyalists or Milo Yiannopoulos trolls that are so steeped in a world that isn't real, going down this rabbit holes of conspiracy theories and trying to spew lie after lie to try to steer away from all the BS that actually IS happening with our president, that it's become a cesspool to try to wade through when trying to have an actual discussion with somebody from the other party. And Trump has basically provided a blueprint on how to market lying into something beneficial and hard to fight against when there's just waves and waves of it.
My grandfather (who usually votes Republican) has to change the channel when he hears Donald Trump speak too long/calls him a despicable human being while shaking his head, that's all I need to know TBH. You can't debate people that aren't grounded in reality. It's one thing to debate whether LeBron or Jordan is better, it's another to try and say that Boobie Gibson or somebody like that was the reason why LeBron's Cavs were so good back in the day. That's what some of these cats look like when they come out with some of their arguments that aren't based on any sort of facts or credibility. We gotta listen to those people? Nah.
Phish Tank wrote:Clyde_Style wrote:Phish Tank wrote:What's Rapey up to nowadays?
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Devin Nunes Tells Donors GOP Must Keep Obstructing Mueller Or 'All Of This Goes Away'
By Karoli Kuns
8/08/18 6:35pm
43 min ago by Karoli Kuns
Rachel Maddow opened her show tonight by playing audio recordings obtained at a recent fundraiser in Washington state for Cathy McMorris Rodgers, whose seat is in far more danger than anyone realized before yesterday.
A group by the name of Fuse Washington bought a ticket to the fundraiser and recorded Nunes' remarks. There were three main clips. In the first, he suggests that a candidate releasing stolen emails could be considered criminal. Of course, we all know Wikileaks released the stolen DNC emails, so he must have felt like he was on solid ground.
Clip number 2 wasn't much of anything to speak of. He basically explained that they'd really love to impeach Rod Rosenstein but they couldn't because the Senate just didn't have the time to take it up with that Supreme Court justice pending. I guess that excuse is better than admitting there's no way they'd get even 50 votes in the Senate for that nonsense, assuming the House would even pass it.
But the last clip, now that was something special, and I've clipped it for you to hear with your own ears above.
"So therein lies, so it's like your classic Catch-22 situation, where we were at a -- this puts us in such a tough spot," Nunes explained to donors.
"If Sessions won't unrecuse, Mueller won't clear the president. We're the only ones, which is really the danger," he continued.
That's why ...we have to keep all these [seats], we have to keep the majority," Nunes insisted. "If we do not keep the majority, all of this goes away."
In other words, those are the stakes. If they lose the majority, they can't obstruct Mueller, and if they can't obstruct Mueller, "all of this goes away."
Rachel put an exclamation on that point too. "They need to stop the Russia investigation or keep using the power of Congress to impede that investigation, or else, right?"
"That's the stakes for them keeping the majority. They're using the majority to impede the investigation. If they lose the majority the investigation might go forward, and then quote all of this goes away."
Clyde_Style wrote:BREAKING NEWS
Maddow obtained tape recordings of Devin Nunes. This is ugly. He was already prison-bound, but this secures his place in a jail cell for committing obstruction of justice.
MSNBC site will play the whole video segment here. First Nunes audio clip at 5:15 point:
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/nunes-on-secret-tape-kavanaugh-vote-then-rosenstein-impeachment-1295170115625