FA/Trade Rumors & Discussion - Durant, Kyrie, AD, etc (Pt. 2)

Rasho Brezec · Post #261 » by **Rasho Brezec** » Thu Feb 7, 2019 6:43 pm

Greenie wrote:
Rasho Brezec wrote:
god shammgod wrote:houston making trades to save money is interesting. they don't believe in themselves.

New owner is cheap.

Then why did they give Chris that contract?

That's the reason for being cheap, he got burnt.

newyorker4ever · Post #262 » by **newyorker4ever** » Thu Feb 7, 2019 6:43 pm

F N 11 wrote:
knickstape4ever wrote:

Read on Twitter

woj bomb

Bucks snapping right now. What the Raptors doing ?

I'm surprised the Nuggets haven't got in any trades to upgrade their team for the playoff run.

RaZzMaTaZz · Post #263 » by **RaZzMaTaZz** » Thu Feb 7, 2019 6:44 pm

Looks like we aint getting any offer for Enes, Wes, LT etc, other teams are just waiting on the knicks to buy em out to snatch them.

Stannis · Post #264 » by **Stannis** » Thu Feb 7, 2019 6:44 pm

bringbackhoffa wrote:this buyout thing is getting ridicoulus, NBA needs to address this, if you get bought out mid-season you should not be able to join a team of your choosing and bolster a contending teams line-up on a minimum salary. if a player accepts a buyout they should have to sit out the rest of the season (does not impact them financially), if they want to play they can go to China or Europe

What can the league do though?

I'm not sure how buyouts completely work honestly. But say if Kanter gets bought out. So the Knicks have to pay the rest of his salary even if another team grabs him?

- Maybe it should work like this.. if you buyout a player and another team signs him. That team signs has to pay 40% (or a different % depending on which point of the season he's signed) of the salary and it can count against the luxury. Wasn't that how waivors worked?
- Don't give the player the option.
- Allow teams equal chances to claim bought out players. Say if Kanter, Matthews, and DJordan are all bought out. Don't let allow one team to sign all of them. If Warriors pick up DJordan, then they use one of their buyout "picks".

With the new high cap, these contracts are getting big so it's hard to make trades for guys like Kanter, Matthews, and DJordan.

F N 11 · Post #265 » by **F N 11** » Thu Feb 7, 2019 6:45 pm

RaZzMaTaZz wrote:Looks like we aint getting any offer for Enes, Wes, LT etc, other teams are just waiting on the knicks to buy em out to snatch them.

This. And if we keep them I won’t be mad. Mf’s just waiting for buyout. Either that or we want to give them the ability to go where they want to.

cuyankees · Post #266 » by **cuyankees** » Thu Feb 7, 2019 6:45 pm

F N 11 wrote:Vonleh
Mudiay
Hezonja
Mathews

If we can’t get no assets for one of these guys it’s failure.

Does a bag of balls & a beer count as an asset?

Spree2Houston · Post #267 » by **Spree2Houston** » Thu Feb 7, 2019 6:45 pm

Let these players go wherever they want after being bought out. Majority of these guys are veterans. They earned the right to sign with whoever. The owners already make so much money off of these guys. Players aren't slaves. Let them sign with whoever. I have no problem with it.

Post #268 » by **Deeeez Knicks** » Thu Feb 7, 2019 6:45 pm

Houston's gotta be doing something else, as cheap as they are...maybe just planning to sign House?

Or more likely sign one of the buyout guys

evevale · Post #269 » by **evevale** » Thu Feb 7, 2019 6:45 pm

Triple C wrote:

Read on Twitter

He will sabotage their title chanches good

Just spilled coffee on my keyboard reading this. Two birds with one miracle stone

SelbyCobra · Post #270 » by **SelbyCobra** » Thu Feb 7, 2019 6:45 pm

newyorker4ever wrote:
SelbyCobra wrote:
Wonderllama wrote:Why would New Orleans trade AD for our 2019 pick TODAY? AD immediately makes that pick weaker. So let's nip that in the bud.

Because the Knicks might be saying to them, "look, if the pick hits Zion, it's no longer available so now's your chance at it."

It's similar to trading any prospect, just with much more tangible odds.

The Knicks aren't gonna trade for AD until the offseason cause if they traded for him now they wouldn't be able to sign two max players but if they wait until the offseason they can sign two max players and then make the AD trade and have a big 3. The Knicks will be waiting with the Celtics until the offseason to be in on AD or B.Beal or any big money player that's available for trade.

I agree with this logic.

I can also see trading for Davis now because 1) it locks in one legit maxcat and 2) it throws a grenade into just about everyone else's plans and potentially creates nuclear fallout across multiple teams with big aspirations right now.

Post #271 » by **Deeeez Knicks** » Thu Feb 7, 2019 6:50 pm

Spree2Houston wrote:Let these players go wherever they want after being bought out. Majority of these guys are veterans. They earned the right to sign with whoever. The owners already make so much money off of these guys. Players aren't slaves. Let them sign with whoever. I have no problem with it.

Yeah, I have no problem with that.

spree2kawhi · Post #272 » by **spree2kawhi** » Thu Feb 7, 2019 6:51 pm

SelbyCobra wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
SelbyCobra wrote:
Because the Knicks might be saying to them, "look, if the pick hits Zion, it's no longer available so now's your chance at it."

It's similar to trading any prospect, just with much more tangible odds.

The Knicks aren't gonna trade for AD until the offseason cause if they traded for him now they wouldn't be able to sign two max players but if they wait until the offseason they can sign two max players and then make the AD trade and have a big 3. The Knicks will be waiting with the Celtics until the offseason to be in on AD or B.Beal or any big money player that's available for trade.

I agree with this logic.

I can also see trading for Davis now because 1) it locks in one legit maxcat and 2) it throws a grenade into just about everyone else's plans and potentially creates nuclear fallout across multiple teams with big aspirations right now.

How much money in contracts would the Knicks need to send to NO now in order to still be able to sign two max players in summer? It must be possible...

knickstape4ever · Post #273 » by **knickstape4ever** » Thu Feb 7, 2019 6:52 pm

SelbyCobra wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
SelbyCobra wrote:
Because the Knicks might be saying to them, "look, if the pick hits Zion, it's no longer available so now's your chance at it."

It's similar to trading any prospect, just with much more tangible odds.

The Knicks aren't gonna trade for AD until the offseason cause if they traded for him now they wouldn't be able to sign two max players but if they wait until the offseason they can sign two max players and then make the AD trade and have a big 3. The Knicks will be waiting with the Celtics until the offseason to be in on AD or B.Beal or any big money player that's available for trade.

I agree with this logic.

I can also see trading for Davis now because 1) it locks in one legit maxcat and 2) it throws a grenade into just about everyone else's plans and potentially creates nuclear fallout across multiple teams with big aspirations right now.

my thinking too. and not only does it lock in one superstar, IMO it locks in another. If the Knicks trade for AD, I can't see them not being able to sign another star player in FA (all signs point to KD. I think trading for AD makes KD more likely). Thats 2 of the top 5 players in the league on 1 team...in NY...I think you gotta do it (and I'm usually someone who loves to hoard assets)