Draft Thread 2: The Electric Draftaloo

[HarthorneWingo]

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[DrCoach]

R.J. LED the ACC in scoring WITH Zion on his team, what are we really talking about here?

**** I hate to read this board sometimes

[Richard4444]

Surprised at the poll. As an outsider looking in, there is no doubt the pick would go to New Orleans in a New York minute. But something about being a fan makes you attached to the kids in the draft more so..

The main corcern about the potencial AD´s trade is that we would have to pack 4 or 5 players to match 80% AD salary. Possibly RJ, Dennis, Frank, Knox and Dotson/Mitch. Many Knicks fans think thats is too expensive trade and some of the kids could have a breakout soon.

[thebuzzardman]

Convince me RJ is better than rookie Alonzo Trier.

Obviously age 19 vs 22, and height, at 6'7" vs 6'5", but convince me that RJ Barrett is a better player than Alonzo Trier showed himself to be as a rookie. Not seeing it. Eventually better? Sure. Better right now? I'd have to be convinced.

I see two players who are a somewhat ball dominant, who aggressively take it to the rim to score, who are scoring SG's with some PG vision but with tendencies to turn the ball over. Trier has the better jumper, better jumper off the dribble, better 3 point range and more adept with his off hand - his left, compared to RJ's right, which makes him even a more effective finisher than RJ, at the moment. Both have the tools to defend, but will drift on defense and do some dumb\disinterested stuff.

I'm still for drafting RJ, but I'm not penciling him in at starting SG like so many seem to want to do. Sure, Trier is 3/4 years older, but with that, he's just better. Right now. RJ probably comes off the bench behind him. If RJ isn't traded.

Drafting RJ isn't drafting a contribute now player, except off the bench. He's 19. Even he's a developmental pick.

Ready, begin.

[robillionaire]

Convince me RJ is better than rookie Alonzo Trier.

Obviously age 19 vs 22, and height, at 6'7" vs 6'5", but convince me that RJ Barrett is a better player than Alonzo Trier showed himself to be as a rookie. Not seeing it. Eventually better? Sure. Better right now? I'd have to be convinced.

I see two players who are a somewhat ball dominant, who aggressively take it to the rim to score, who are scoring SG's with some PG vision but with tendencies to turn the ball over. Trier has the better jumper, better jumper off the dribble, better 3 point range and more adept with his off hand - his left, compared to RJ's right, which makes him even a more effective finisher than RJ, at the moment. Both have the tools to defend, but will drift on defense and do some dumb\disinterested stuff.

I'm still for drafting RJ, but I'm not penciling him in at starting SG like so many seem to want to do. Sure, Trier is 3/4 years older, but with that, he's just better. Right now. RJ probably comes off the bench behind him. If RJ isn't traded.

Drafting RJ isn't drafting a contribute now player, except off the bench. He's 19. Even he's a developmental pick.

Ready, begin.

Well for one you’re fudging the numbers a little since Trier is 23 and RJ is 18 but I’ll start with the obvious one, RJ can actually throw a pass on occasion. But I do agree with you that it’s a mistake to think he’s going to be a great player right out of the gate. But if we strike out on free agents and are once again in development mode I’m absolutely starting him all season

[Mtowngrizz]

Lakers really want R.J. Barrett to pair with LeBron and AD. Grizzlies secretly are higher on Garland because of his three point shooting than they are on Ja. Lakers send Josh Hart and the #4 to Grizzlies for the #2 pick. Lakers take R.J. at 2 and the Grizzlies take Garland at 4.

[Mtowngrizz]

Grizzlies then trade Mike Conley to Boston for Gordon Hayward and #14 and #22. Garland, Hart, Hayward, Jaren Jackson, JV. Not bad....don't you think??

[B8RcDeMktfxC]

Convince me RJ is better than rookie Alonzo Trier.

Obviously age 19 vs 22, and height, at 6'7" vs 6'5", but convince me that RJ Barrett is a better player than Alonzo Trier showed himself to be as a rookie. Not seeing it. Eventually better? Sure. Better right now? I'd have to be convinced.

I see two players who are a somewhat ball dominant, who aggressively take it to the rim to score, who are scoring SG's with some PG vision but with tendencies to turn the ball over. Trier has the better jumper, better jumper off the dribble, better 3 point range and more adept with his off hand - his left, compared to RJ's right, which makes him even a more effective finisher than RJ, at the moment. Both have the tools to defend, but will drift on defense and do some dumb\disinterested stuff.

I'm still for drafting RJ, but I'm not penciling him in at starting SG like so many seem to want to do. Sure, Trier is 3/4 years older, but with that, he's just better. Right now. RJ probably comes off the bench behind him. If RJ isn't traded.

Drafting RJ isn't drafting a contribute now player, except off the bench. He's 19. Even he's a developmental pick.

Ready, begin.

January 17, 1996
June 14, 2000

[Marty McFly]

i want RJ but i wish there was a way for the knicks to snag garland too.

[BLACKFEET 2010]

i want RJ but i wish there was a way for the knicks to snag garland too.

There are a few dollar store Garlands projected later in the draft. But I feel you.

[stuporman]

Grizzlies then trade Mike Conley to Boston for Gordon Hayward and #14 and #22. Garland, Hart, Hayward, Jaren Jackson, JV. Not bad....don't you think??

I didn't realize there was that much crack being smoked in Memphis.....

[stuporman]

Convince me

Nah... I'm good.

[bearadonisdna]

Convince me RJ is better than rookie Alonzo Trier.

Obviously age 19 vs 22, and height, at 6'7" vs 6'5", but convince me that RJ Barrett is a better player than Alonzo Trier showed himself to be as a rookie. Not seeing it. Eventually better? Sure. Better right now? I'd have to be convinced.

I see two players who are a somewhat ball dominant, who aggressively take it to the rim to score, who are scoring SG's with some PG vision but with tendencies to turn the ball over. Trier has the better jumper, better jumper off the dribble, better 3 point range and more adept with his off hand - his left, compared to RJ's right, which makes him even a more effective finisher than RJ, at the moment. Both have the tools to defend, but will drift on defense and do some dumb\disinterested stuff.

I'm still for drafting RJ, but I'm not penciling him in at starting SG like so many seem to want to do. Sure, Trier is 3/4 years older, but with that, he's just better. Right now. RJ probably comes off the bench behind him. If RJ isn't traded.

Drafting RJ isn't drafting a contribute now player, except off the bench. He's 19. Even he's a developmental pick.

Ready, begin.

This is like someone saying,
Why is fresh better than frozen?
Frozen can be more convenient because you can just microwave it.

[KnicksGadfly]

R.J. LED the ACC in scoring WITH Zion on his team, what are we really talking about here?

**** I hate to read this board sometimes

Meh...I don't feel this argument convincing. Zion was clearly the better, more efficient scoring option, and it's a bit criminal that RJ took as much shots as he did. Andrew Wiggins is a scorer. He's not a great scorer, but he scores. There's an argument to be made that KAT would probably dominate more if we replaced Wiggins with Courtney Lee. I'm not even gonna talk about the past inefficient "1st options" for the Knicks.

I think what I like about RJ are his attitude, his age, his passing ability, his rebounding, and the fact the Duke didn't have the widest lanes to drive. There's hope for him.

[bearadonisdna]

J/k but seriously, walking in through the door, rj can be the best SF on this team with knox and Dotson.
Rj brings what Zo brings but rj is more dynamic in this way.

[BLACKFEET 2010]

R.J. LED the ACC in scoring WITH Zion on his team, what are we really talking about here?

**** I hate to read this board sometimes

Word.
And whats totally dismissed in the whole deal is HIS effect on Zion’s ascent.

He woulda been in high school right now.
And he just put his name in the history books at Duke.
People talk about him and his game like he’s a 28 year old finished product, on somebody bench, washed and lazy getting paid $20M a year.

He’s a kid who’s won at every level, challenged himself to play alongside other great players for a HOF coach in a winning program in a super competitive conference.
He put up Wade type numbers. Lol pro Wade at that.
But people gripe about his shooting...only the easiest skill to improve. His handle? Steve Nash IS his godfather, I wouldn’t bet against his improvement in that area either. His assist numbers are higher than most pgs of note in this draft. RJ seems very, very aware and I’m sure he’s gonna work to get better. He has already.

Rudy Gay didn’t get any fire in his belly until he got to Pop which is sad. Wiggins has no alpha to him, never did. Derozan was just a dunker and a body coming out of USC. But he turned out to be a pretty good-to-great player. And I believe RJ will be better. Quote me, health withstanding. Danny Granger?? I don’t know what they have in common beside the Devastator shaped head and complexion maybe.

He’s gonna rebound and run from day one. He’s gonna attack. He’s not going to do a lot of losing. He’s going to find a way to contribute to winning. He fits the city and the coach. He’d fit with superstars in a tertiary role. He’d fit as the man too.

Please draft this man. And then let all those who’ve closed the book on him go passive aggressive pseudo troll until we trade him.

No to shiny things.

RJ Barrett will be the next great Knick.

[BLACKFEET 2010]

J/k but seriously, walking in through the door, rj can be the best PLAYER on this team.

Fixed for troof

[GONYK]

Grizzlies then trade Mike Conley to Boston for Gordon Hayward and #14 and #22. Garland, Hart, Hayward, Jaren Jackson, JV. Not bad....don't you think??

I think you're on the wrong board

[GONYK]

J/k but seriously, walking in through the door, rj can be the best PLAYER on this team.

Fixed for troof

Faint praise

You're basically saying that you think Barrett is better than...I don't know...Mudiay?

[taj2133]

One person in the Cavaliers' front office tells Chris Fedor of Cleveland.com that RJ Barrett is on the same level as Ja Morant, who is likely to be selected second in June's NBA Draft.
The Cavs own the fifth pick, which means they'd likely have to trade up to get in position to draft Barrett. Fedor believes that they would explore the opportunity to move up if the opportunity presented itself, but that the cost might not be worth it. The front office believes that their is a drop-off after the first three prospects, which puts the Cavs in a tough position at number five. Barrett is the favorite to go third to the Knicks as of right now.
https://www.rotoworld.com/basketball/nba/player/50968/rj-barrett
There are always scenarios. It’s the NBA. The Cavs think highly of RJ Barrett. That’s not a secret. One member of the front office thinks he’s on the same level as Ja Morant when it comes to ranking this draft class and Barrett will lead the class in scoring. The Cavs also recognize the drop in talent after Barrett, believing there's a clear line of demarcation before getting into a cluster of prospects that can be ranked any possible way starting at No. 4.

So if there’s an opportunity to move up and snag Barrett, I think the Cavs would explore it.
https://expo.cleveland.com/sports/g66l-2019/05/8dd91be2ef9651/could-the-cleveland-cavaliers-move-up-in-the-nba-draft-hey-chris.html