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WOJ: Knicks president [Mills] angling for David Fizdale firing

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Re: WOJ: Knicks president [Mills] angling for David Fizdale firing 

Post#261 » by mpharris36 » Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:43 pm

Mecca wrote:Sorry, I have no faith in the FO that scouted Kentucky for a year and decided that Kevin Knox was the team’s best prospect on a team featuring SGA that carried them into the tournament.

Or a team that thought spending over 100 million on veterans looking for their stats on 1 year deals was a genius idea when the young kids need to develop.


They admitted why they picked Knox. He killed miles bridges in a one on one workout. They ignored a full year of meh production and poor IQ because they saw some big dude dominate in a 1 on 1...I would fire them off that explanation alone.

Let alone the countless other things both thes guys have bumbled
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Re: WOJ: Knicks president [Mills] angling for David Fizdale firing 

Post#262 » by will » Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:45 pm

NY 567 wrote:As bad as Fizdale is, Pills needs to go first. Wtf is this roster? We signed a bunch of mediocre, hothead malcontents(Besides Gibson) to short term deals for a ton of money relative to their talent. Why do that, what the **** was the point? They should have just let all the kids play, take on bad contracts for assets, maybe sign a couple of guys who are diamonds in the rough and give them a shot to develop. Instead we spend a ton of money on mediocre vets. Why sign Portis, Randle, Gibson, Ellington, Bullock, Morris when they have no future here and are going to take away time from guys like Robinson, Knox, Trier, Dodson, etc, and will prevent guys like Iggy and Rabb from ever seeing the floor at all. It's so stupid. Literally any random fan, including kids in high school or even grade school, could do a better job constructing a roster than Pills and I'm not even kidding about that.


Don't even want to get started on the Ellington and Bullock signings. SMH
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Re: WOJ: Knicks president [Mills] angling for David Fizdale firing 

Post#263 » by ADeP7 » Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:45 pm

For as crappy as Dolan is, he just needs to step in gold one single time. Fire fiz perry mills and get lucky with a gm or POBO and then once they get everything in place then he doesn’t look so bad. Don’t get me wrong. Dolan is terrible but we just need to find a legitimate basketball mind to run the show.
That being said. All these clowns need to be fired as soon as possible
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Re: WOJ: Knicks president [Mills] angling for David Fizdale firing 

Post#264 » by god shammgod » Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:46 pm

i think a lot of raptors fans followed the knicks before they had a team. there seems to always be a connection. probably because toronto is so close to upper new york state.
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Re: WOJ: Knicks president [Mills] angling for David Fizdale firing 

Post#265 » by 3toheadmelo » Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:46 pm

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will wrote:Damn.

10 games into this season with ZERO expectations....the Knicks management team does this.

SMH

Ain’t you a raptors fan?
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Loved watching the Knicks as a toddler/youngstaaaaaa before the Raptors.

Furthermore, I follow the New Orleans Saints/Oakland Raiiiidaaaaaass, Toronto Maple Leafs, Manchester United/Juventus.

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Re: WOJ: Knicks president [Mills] angling for David Fizdale firing 

Post#266 » by thebuzzardman » Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:48 pm

Rasho Brezec wrote:Look at all these Fizdale apologists. Mills has given him 20 PF's to work with and he still can't get the job done.


The roster sucks AND Fizdale sucks. Not complicated.
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Re: WOJ: Knicks president [Mills] angling for David Fizdale firing 

Post#267 » by GONYK » Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:50 pm

Who did this? :lol:


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Post#268 » by prophet_of_rage » Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:50 pm

god shammgod wrote:i think a lot of raptors fans followed the knicks before they had a team. there seems to always be a connection. probably because toronto is so close to upper new york state.


Yes, before we had a team the teams to follow were the Bulls, Lakers and Knicks. But most Black basketball fans in Toronto have family in New York so there's a link.
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Re: WOJ: Knicks president [Mills] angling for David Fizdale firing 

Post#269 » by Jimmit79 » Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:50 pm

The entire Knicks organization sucks minus the cheerleaders =D

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Re: WOJ: Knicks president [Mills] angling for David Fizdale firing 

Post#270 » by TheGreenArrow » Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:50 pm

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Re: WOJ: Knicks president [Mills] angling for David Fizdale firing 

Post#271 » by dakomish23 » Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:51 pm

GONYK wrote:Who did this? :lol:


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Don't ruin Becky by bringing her here under Mills. I hope she sends his calls to VM if he tries
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Post#272 » by thebuzzardman » Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:52 pm

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Fizdale like Bolton for Trump. "I'm out? I'm taking the rest of you f*cks down with me"
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Post#273 » by will » Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:52 pm

GONYK wrote:Who did this? Image


She did play in a layyyyydeeesssss league in Russia during the WNBA off seasons.
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Re: WOJ: Knicks president [Mills] angling for David Fizdale firing 

Post#274 » by will » Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:53 pm

Man....always admired Becky Hammon.

Until I found out.
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Re: WOJ: Knicks president [Mills] angling for David Fizdale firing 

Post#275 » by 21 Hussle » Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:54 pm

Knicks wayyy too toxic to be bring in Becky lol. She needs a quality org to start her career with.
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Post#276 » by god shammgod » Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:54 pm

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One statement that didn't get much attention: Mills said that the organization breaks down the season in 10-game increments. The first ended on Sunday with a humiliating 108-87 loss to the Cleveland Cavaliers at MSG, after which Mills and Perry did something unusual, bordering on unthinkable in Knicks world: They met the media and said they weren't happy with the 2-8 start.

It quickly became clear that this is a crisis. The Athletic's Frank Isola reported that owner James Dolan made Mills and Perry talk to reporters and that he intends to try to poach Toronto Raptors president Masai Ujiri, whose contract expires in 2021. ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski and Malika Andrews reported that, while Mills said publicly that he still believes in the coaching staff, behind the scenes he is trying to get Fizdale fired.

The Knicks are 30th in offense and 21st in net rating, per Cleaning The Glass. Fizdale has talked about getting stops, running and sharing the ball since he was first introduced as coach, but they are 21st in defense, 23rd in transition frequency, 26th in pace and 27th in assist rate, with an offense that suffers from poor spacing and poor decision-making. It's difficult to argue that Fizdale has done an awesome job. It is ridiculous, however, to assign him more blame than the front office that constructed the roster.
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New York didn't have to add Randle, Portis and Gibson when it already had Robinson and Knox, who should probably play most of his minutes at power forward. It definitely didn't need to sign forward Marcus Morris a week and a half later. You might say that the Knicks had been selling a patient rebuild and then they sped up, blocking their young guys because they were so desperate to go from terrible to mediocre. Anyone around the league will tell you that it is exponentially easier to make that kind of leap than it is to go from decent to very good or from very good to great.

The real issue, though, is that they failed to get that right. It is understandable that the Knicks didn't want to have another 17-win season, that they wanted to add some structure, experience and grit. Brooklyn was forced to go that route because of its draft-pick debt, and it paid off when it established an identity, made the playoffs and completely changed the way the league saw the organization. Look at what the Suns are doing with Ricky Rubio, Aron Baynes and Dario Saric in the mix -- no one is talking about Robert Sarver in Phoenix, and Dolan would surely kill for similar silence in New York, but this collection of ill-fitting parts has brought all sorts of noise.

When the Knicks failed to sign top-end talent, their leadership said with straight faces that they were pleased with Plan B. "This group that we have assembled, we had them on the board as a roster and we like the way they fit with each other," Mills said at media day, as if this was a perfectly balanced team. Ideally, though, you'd want to put Barrett next to guards who can space the floor, and you'd want Randle to play with another big who can both shoot and protect the rim. Robinson would thrive next to a versatile, stretchy 4, and Payton would be best playing spread pick-and-roll. Fizdale's rotations probably aren't satisfying anybody, but all he can do is mix and match and make compromises.

Regardless of Fizdale's fate, the next notable date on the calendar is Dec. 15, when Randle, Portis, Morris, Payton, Gibson, Ellington and Reggie Bullock will be eligible to be traded. Teams with realistic playoff hopes could use those guys, and New York would be wise to lose some of them. It is almost certainly too late for the front office to create the kind of winning environment it crowed about, but it's not too late to create an environment less messy than this one, where the young core has a proper chance to grow.


it's like i said all along, their plan this summer was to go out get some free agents and be like last year's nets. they just don't know how to pick players or put together a roster. the idea was fine, the execution was terrible.
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Post#277 » by will » Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:54 pm

Bringing Action Jackson back home would be so Knicks.

It's either going to be an absolutely genius move...or an absolute disaster.
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Re: WOJ: Knicks president [Mills] angling for David Fizdale firing 

Post#278 » by E-Balla » Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:55 pm

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E-Balla wrote:Perry doesn't seem terrible but Mills needs to go. He's officially hit Isiah/Phil territory.


nah, he's bad too. his big contribution seems to bring guys here who he had in other places. and all those guys suck.

he's also known as the guy who convinced the kings to sign a bunch old vets to play with the kids. vets who sucked. sound familiar ?

He's definitely not good, but I don't think Perry is proven either way right now. Whatever plan he got for the Kings he was in and out there too fast for me to judge those moves (especially since it worked out for them).
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Post#279 » by Synciere » Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:57 pm

god shammgod wrote:this is so good

"i believe steve mills should be drug tested immediately"
"i've found vagrants with cups in hand that knew the knicks were gonna stink this year but you didn't know ?"

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Post#280 » by 3toheadmelo » Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:57 pm

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