thebuzzardman wrote:mpharris36 wrote:nedleeds wrote:
Why? Nothing changes if we do. Why not let the young players play and score. We are going to be one of the 3 worst rosters in the league with or without Randle. Why do we need to acquire some random chucker to take shots away from players on rookie deals that need to sink or swim? This is classic Knicks thinking. What happens if we don't bring in Tony Campell 2.0? Nothing. We lose regardless. But at least we determine if any of these 20,21,22 year olds can play.
Even the dumbest team isn't giving us positive value for Randle, we could possibly get a pick if we take on a worse deal.
Others have mentioned it, but just to get him off the roster and not piss his agent off by benching him
Randle for Batum, I'd happily do it straight up. Nicola can regale Frank with stories about how getting herpes impeded his NBA career. Trade works by throwing in Payton as well who needs to **** go. He's the worst point guard who actually played in the league, but maybe the Hornets are stupid enough to think he can play.
Randle for Exum and Larry Nance Jr. Randle is a bad but short contract. Nance is a mediocre contract for a thus far mediocre player. That being said he's had joke level coaching and at least tries hard. Exum makes way too much and is injured but might be worth a look at SG if he can stay healthy. Had elite defensive potential. Cavs have too many guards anyway.
Randle for James Johnsons Cold Body. The Wolves are already the worst defensive team in the league. KAT is the best 3 point shooting center in the league. It gives them a bowling ball roll man 4 who can rebound and piss his teammates off by thinking he's Magic Johnson. Actually I think he and KAT are BFFs so the Wolves plan of trade for KATs friends can continue while they go 10-72. Maybe they are dumb enough to give us Jared Vanderbilt to match salary.
The Utah thing is absurd. Mike Conley can actually play winning basketball. For them to trade him for a turd like King Julius without expecting Frank or something back is dumb.
I couldn't agree more. I hate the argument that he is 19 and 9 and we have to replace that. You can replace raw number production in many ways. Offensive system/pace, player development (more usage for other players), and bringing in better fitting players. All these scenarios make more sense then just letting Randle get his because we obviously know that isn't conducive to winning basketball games. Which should be the goal...not putting up raw statistics.
19\9, he'll be age 26 next playing year, and a 19 million expiring, or is it effectively 14 million, as he has 5 million player option?
Agreed it's a false narrative about needing to replace 19/9. Someone will score those points. The Knicks will kind of suck no matter what, with or w/o Randle
Anyway, he's not GREAT, but he's not awful.
Moving him will be about fit for both teams, in terms of what the team who takes him needs, in terms of some front court help and/or salary relief, and what they have to offer Knicks, maybe in terms of a wing who can shoot and/or a pick etc etc.
There could be a deal for Randle, or maybe not.
I wouldn't burn a single asset to try and get rid of him, as he's an expiring, in spite of the fact he crowds the paint and roster etc.
On the other hand, he won't fetch a massive return, but there MIGHT be scenarios where he brings something back, depending on circumstance
If they don’t trade him, they’ll re-sign him.
He should be traded. Should have long been traded.
This team isn’t going anywhere and of course. Brunson can’t change that. Him and Randle are not some kind of killer combo that’ll relentlessly beat down on opponents. Are all, they are not even mediocre, even though I would’ve expected them to be at least that.
In reality, there is no market for Randle.
The only team that could realistically be desperate enough to try to use him is the Lakers and once you think about it… they cannot use his non-shooting, inefficient game either. They’ve got enough of that BS between Ad, LeBum and Russ. Maybe they’d like Fournier - but Walker is obviously better.
We won’t get value for him, but that’s good enough for me. I want this team in the lottery.Brooklyn might send some bodies for him.
The Clippers might send Batum and maybe Mann as someone pointed out. But that’s it.
Milwaukee has Allen, but no fillers.
I doubt they’d want Randle over Portis, but that could be a package.
Boston would gladly send us Derrick White but that’s a very bad deal for us.
Phoenix could use him but can’t/won’t offer anything.
Dallas could send Dinwiddie whose contract expires in 24.
Denver could use him I guess but we don’t want Gordon at all.
I think Philly wouldn’t say no to a deal of Randle and Fournier for Tobias Harris, whose 40mil contract expires in 24. I don’t know if they’d send Thybulle too or what kind of draft capital they have.
Miami need talent, but we can’t take Herro or Duncan, do all they’ve got to offer is Lowry, whose contract expires in 24.
Sending him to Washington for Barton and Monte Morris would be a masterpiece. They may be dumb enough to consider it.
Chicago has Vucevic‘s 22 million expiring. Would they offer him or rather extend him? They’re going nowhere either. Not that Randle would change that, but maybe they’re nervous…
Cleveland would never send us Love‘s or LeVert‘s expiring. That’s how low we’ve gone.
I mean, let that sink in.
RIP mags
