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HarthorneWingo wrote:Chairman of the JCS just let Trump, his sycophants, the Republican Party, and the rest of the world know where the U.S. Military stands on any potential thought of a coup.
dakomish23 wrote:Clyde_Style wrote:dakomish23 wrote:
You’re still underestimating just how pathetically narcissistic this grifter is and how immensely evil the entrenched GOP politicians are.
They went unchecked for 4 years and did a lot of stuff to drag policy far to the right. If you think they’re not going to attempt to push this out as far as possible with lawsuits to force the selection to be made by Congress or SCOTUS, then you sound just like the ppl who told me calm down there’s no way
He’d win the nomination
He’d win the election
He’d go through with some of his campaign claims
He’d put politics over the welfare of the nation
I hope I am a 100% wrong and you’re a 100% right. I hope it is just a grift and/or just a tantrum. But the longer this lasts, the more people are realizing this attempt to circumvent the will of the people is a real possibility.
NO
I'm 100% correct about the following:
1) Trump has never been interested in governing. He only cares about getting paid and building his brand.
2) See # 1 above. Multiply by 10 for his remaining time in the WH
3) They are not overturning the results. I won't even debate it or lecture about it again. It's just ridiculous
In sum, there is only one thing going on with Trump the rest of his one and only term which is grifting his followers and fleecing the government of its resources. THERE IS NOTHING ELSE THERE.
Now, as far as the matter of whether he remains a dangerous threat to democracy even with only two months left, the answer is YES. He can undermine the public understanding of fair elections to the point it harms future election integrity if only in the form of a rabidly stupid public becoming even more dumb and immune to facts.
And he can cause a ton of remaining harm with EA's and appointments, but still, almost all of his actions will be for personal gain. He no longer gives a flying donut about the GOP, is sandbagging them in the GA run-offs and he may even position himself to the cult as the one true savior and take a giant dump on the GOP on his way out the door.
He's a criminal, a grifter and a menace to society until he leaves the WH one last time.
But the election results are final and that is not changing.
The harm to the transition process is immense and it is dangerous. It leaves a lot of loose ends flying in the wind until he is evicted. Still, the election is not being overturned.
They MAGAland lemmings have finally realized that this option of circumventing the vote is on the table and theyre not even hiding behind the integrity of the vote propaganda anymore.
Both the pundits and the cult members have drawn a line in the sand. They’re going to cheat and steal this election away if they can. This isn’t just a tantrum or a grift. Everyday this drags out, the rest of America will realize it too.
Jimmit79 wrote:At this point I want RJ to get paid
Oscirus wrote:
But honestly this current situation is scary, not cuz of trump, but what would happen if an actual competent president attempted a coup like this? But I also dont trust that trump isnt doing something in the shadows that'll **** us in the future. Similar to that 401k stunt of his during the pandemic
Oscirus wrote:If your case are so toxic that only rudy will take them, maybe you should take the hint
Clyde_Style wrote:The MAGAt gathering is a flop
Derp
HarthorneWingo wrote:Clyde_Style wrote:The MAGAt gathering is a flop
Derp
Not a million?
Voter registration surged during BLM protests, study finds
The rise, largely among Democrats and independents, came after a steep decline amid the coronavirus pandemic.
Image: Michigan Voters Visit The Polls For State's Primary Election
Aug. 11, 2020, 5:01 AM EDT
By Jane C. Timm
Voter registrations fell sharply amid the early months of the coronavirus pandemic, but shot up in June amid nationwide protests over the killing of George Floyd, according to a new analysis.
TargetSmart, a Democratic political data firm, analyzed local election officials' registration data against their voter file and found a surge of Democratic and unaffiliated voter registrations in June, amid the large Black Lives Matter protests across the country.
"Despite a full or partial lockdown in large swaths of the country for much of the month, voter registration began to rebound as people took to the streets to protest," the firm said in its analysis.
In the first half of June, 1.1 million voters registered. By comparison, 1.5 million voters registered in the entire month of June 2016. Not all states have reported the entire month of June's registration data, hence the partial national data.
Some of June's registration surge likely happened at the protests: Local reports from Los Angeles, California, to Kalamazoo, Michigan, detail voter registration efforts. Some activists posted QR codes on protest signs, so protesters could scan the code and begin the registration process on their phones.
In Minnesota, the heart of the demonstrations, there was a large spike that appears to have continued into July.
"Voter registration for Democrats nearly doubled in June from 17,000 in 2016 to 32,000 in 2020. Meanwhile, Republican registration essentially flat-lined at 17,000," TargetSmart wrote.
The spring before a presidential election is typically marked by an increase in voter registrations ahead of the primaries, but after the coronavirus' rapid spread prompted statewide shutdowns and delayed primaries, voter registration plummeted across the country. In March and April, registration fell 32 percent compared with 2016's numbers. In May, the decline accelerated and voter registrations fell 54 percent compared with 2016’s numbers.
Historically, most voters register outside the home: 52 percent of 2016 voters registered at government offices like the Department of Motor Vehicles or on school campuses, at hospitals or registration drives, according to Census data. Many of those offices and drives were curbed or closed down amid the pandemic, contributing to the decline in voter registrations.
Tom Bonier, CEO of TargetSmart, also pointed to growing voter frustration over President Donald Trump's handling of the pandemic, which polls indicate grew through June.
"There's this level of intensity, people are feeling like this situation is being very much mishandled, and if they have the opportunity to go and cast a ballot and put different people in charge," Bonier told NBC News last month while preparing the analysis. "I think we're seeing that in the vote registrations."
HarthorneWingo wrote:To those Democrats who thought that #DefundThePolice was a big mistake, I leave you this:
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/voter-registration-surged-during-blm-protests-study-finds-n1236331Voter registration surged during BLM protests, study finds
The rise, largely among Democrats and independents, came after a steep decline amid the coronavirus pandemic.
Image: Michigan Voters Visit The Polls For State's Primary Election
Aug. 11, 2020, 5:01 AM EDT
By Jane C. Timm
Voter registrations fell sharply amid the early months of the coronavirus pandemic, but shot up in June amid nationwide protests over the killing of George Floyd, according to a new analysis.
TargetSmart, a Democratic political data firm, analyzed local election officials' registration data against their voter file and found a surge of Democratic and unaffiliated voter registrations in June, amid the large Black Lives Matter protests across the country.
"Despite a full or partial lockdown in large swaths of the country for much of the month, voter registration began to rebound as people took to the streets to protest," the firm said in its analysis.
In the first half of June, 1.1 million voters registered. By comparison, 1.5 million voters registered in the entire month of June 2016. Not all states have reported the entire month of June's registration data, hence the partial national data.
Some of June's registration surge likely happened at the protests: Local reports from Los Angeles, California, to Kalamazoo, Michigan, detail voter registration efforts. Some activists posted QR codes on protest signs, so protesters could scan the code and begin the registration process on their phones.
In Minnesota, the heart of the demonstrations, there was a large spike that appears to have continued into July.
"Voter registration for Democrats nearly doubled in June from 17,000 in 2016 to 32,000 in 2020. Meanwhile, Republican registration essentially flat-lined at 17,000," TargetSmart wrote.
The spring before a presidential election is typically marked by an increase in voter registrations ahead of the primaries, but after the coronavirus' rapid spread prompted statewide shutdowns and delayed primaries, voter registration plummeted across the country. In March and April, registration fell 32 percent compared with 2016's numbers. In May, the decline accelerated and voter registrations fell 54 percent compared with 2016’s numbers.
Historically, most voters register outside the home: 52 percent of 2016 voters registered at government offices like the Department of Motor Vehicles or on school campuses, at hospitals or registration drives, according to Census data. Many of those offices and drives were curbed or closed down amid the pandemic, contributing to the decline in voter registrations.
Tom Bonier, CEO of TargetSmart, also pointed to growing voter frustration over President Donald Trump's handling of the pandemic, which polls indicate grew through June.
"There's this level of intensity, people are feeling like this situation is being very much mishandled, and if they have the opportunity to go and cast a ballot and put different people in charge," Bonier told NBC News last month while preparing the analysis. "I think we're seeing that in the vote registrations."
Jimmit79 wrote:At this point I want RJ to get paid
Oscirus wrote:HarthorneWingo wrote:To those Democrats who thought that #DefundThePolice was a big mistake, I leave you this:
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/voter-registration-surged-during-blm-protests-study-finds-n1236331Voter registration surged during BLM protests, study finds
The rise, largely among Democrats and independents, came after a steep decline amid the coronavirus pandemic.
Image: Michigan Voters Visit The Polls For State's Primary Election
Aug. 11, 2020, 5:01 AM EDT
By Jane C. Timm
Voter registrations fell sharply amid the early months of the coronavirus pandemic, but shot up in June amid nationwide protests over the killing of George Floyd, according to a new analysis.
TargetSmart, a Democratic political data firm, analyzed local election officials' registration data against their voter file and found a surge of Democratic and unaffiliated voter registrations in June, amid the large Black Lives Matter protests across the country.
"Despite a full or partial lockdown in large swaths of the country for much of the month, voter registration began to rebound as people took to the streets to protest," the firm said in its analysis.
In the first half of June, 1.1 million voters registered. By comparison, 1.5 million voters registered in the entire month of June 2016. Not all states have reported the entire month of June's registration data, hence the partial national data.
Some of June's registration surge likely happened at the protests: Local reports from Los Angeles, California, to Kalamazoo, Michigan, detail voter registration efforts. Some activists posted QR codes on protest signs, so protesters could scan the code and begin the registration process on their phones.
In Minnesota, the heart of the demonstrations, there was a large spike that appears to have continued into July.
"Voter registration for Democrats nearly doubled in June from 17,000 in 2016 to 32,000 in 2020. Meanwhile, Republican registration essentially flat-lined at 17,000," TargetSmart wrote.
The spring before a presidential election is typically marked by an increase in voter registrations ahead of the primaries, but after the coronavirus' rapid spread prompted statewide shutdowns and delayed primaries, voter registration plummeted across the country. In March and April, registration fell 32 percent compared with 2016's numbers. In May, the decline accelerated and voter registrations fell 54 percent compared with 2016’s numbers.
Historically, most voters register outside the home: 52 percent of 2016 voters registered at government offices like the Department of Motor Vehicles or on school campuses, at hospitals or registration drives, according to Census data. Many of those offices and drives were curbed or closed down amid the pandemic, contributing to the decline in voter registrations.
Tom Bonier, CEO of TargetSmart, also pointed to growing voter frustration over President Donald Trump's handling of the pandemic, which polls indicate grew through June.
"There's this level of intensity, people are feeling like this situation is being very much mishandled, and if they have the opportunity to go and cast a ballot and put different people in charge," Bonier told NBC News last month while preparing the analysis. "I think we're seeing that in the vote registrations."
Black lives matter wasn't the problem. The problem was defund the police was a stupid name that could be manipulated as demonstrated by the republicans.
On another topic, Stacie Abrams really needs to be given some leadership in the democratic party. She basically flipped a state that we had no right expecting to be flipped
HarthorneWingo wrote:Oscirus wrote:HarthorneWingo wrote:To those Democrats who thought that #DefundThePolice was a big mistake, I leave you this:
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/voter-registration-surged-during-blm-protests-study-finds-n1236331
Black lives matter wasn't the problem. The problem was defund the police was a stupid name that could be manipulated as demonstrated by the republicans.
On another topic, Stacie Abrams really needs to be given some leadership in the democratic party. She basically flipped a state that we had no right expecting to be flipped
I think everyone knew what it meant. Anyhow, Republicans would've still made the same accusations even if a different slogan was used. Bottom line: registration increased, not decreased. So how bad could it have been?
Jimmit79 wrote:At this point I want RJ to get paid
Oscirus wrote:HarthorneWingo wrote:Oscirus wrote:
Black lives matter wasn't the problem. The problem was defund the police was a stupid name that could be manipulated as demonstrated by the republicans.
On another topic, Stacie Abrams really needs to be given some leadership in the democratic party. She basically flipped a state that we had no right expecting to be flipped
I think everyone knew what it meant. Anyhow, Republicans would've still made the same accusations even if a different slogan was used. Bottom line: registration increased, not decreased. So how bad could it have been?
I think you over-estimate the intelligence of alot of voters. Honestly I think that registration still would have increased without that particular aspect being termed the way it was.
HarthorneWingo wrote:Oscirus wrote:HarthorneWingo wrote:To those Democrats who thought that #DefundThePolice was a big mistake, I leave you this:
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/voter-registration-surged-during-blm-protests-study-finds-n1236331
Black lives matter wasn't the problem. The problem was defund the police was a stupid name that could be manipulated as demonstrated by the republicans.
On another topic, Stacie Abrams really needs to be given some leadership in the democratic party. She basically flipped a state that we had no right expecting to be flipped
I think everyone knew what it meant. Anyhow, Republicans would've still made the same accusations even if a different slogan was used. Bottom line: registration increased, not decreased. So how bad could it have been?
Clyde_Style wrote:HarthorneWingo wrote:Oscirus wrote:
Black lives matter wasn't the problem. The problem was defund the police was a stupid name that could be manipulated as demonstrated by the republicans.
On another topic, Stacie Abrams really needs to be given some leadership in the democratic party. She basically flipped a state that we had no right expecting to be flipped
I think everyone knew what it meant. Anyhow, Republicans would've still made the same accusations even if a different slogan was used. Bottom line: registration increased, not decreased. So how bad could it have been?
How can you still underestimate the stupidity of Americans?
HarthorneWingo wrote:Clyde_Style wrote:HarthorneWingo wrote:
I think everyone knew what it meant. Anyhow, Republicans would've still made the same accusations even if a different slogan was used. Bottom line: registration increased, not decreased. So how bad could it have been?
How can you still underestimate the stupidity of Americans?
I'll reserve my opinions until after the draft and free agency.
Jimmit79 wrote:At this point I want RJ to get paid
Oscirus wrote:He even taking ls in the court on no election stuff
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/14/politics/federal-judge-daca-rules-chad-wolf/index.html