Build a Franchise (Season 5) Discussion Thread continued

[Capn'O]

I'm trying to figure out what makes Boston's defense so good. We average 114 points per game and these cats held us to 88. Our lowest outing of the season. They're currently the #2 ranked defense in the entire league!

I think it's because they play slow, not that their defense is that good. They're the only team that plays grind. They do have some decent defensive pieces though.

I've been playing grind/attack since day 1 too. We're ranked 3rd on offense, but 13th on defense.

Interesting.

[Smash3]

Not disagreeing with you in this aspect but we said from the preseason that all of the defensive numbers seemed down. Across the board, especially for wings and perimeter players. Considering it is the whole league that was effected and not one or two individual players or teams, why does it need to be changed?

Again, it isn't perfect. But look at the league leaders and look at the standings and tell me where the sim is way off through a month?

Got you, and don't get me wrong you know as long as I've been in BAF i rarely have criticized the sim, but we all voiced our complaints about the defense in pre-season because the numbers are way off across the boards. Now we see that they publicly admitted to screwing up which makes sense and they have fixed it.

Sim is on point as usual with individual stats so league leaders and all that are good, but it's specifically defense they messed up this edition and is being reflected. Look at the best defenses in the league, there you will see the defensive formula mistake has messed up the entire team defense:

Top 10 defenses:

Spurs:
Boston:
Philly: (Keep in mind Turner is only playing 12 minutes per game and Collins is starting)
Miami:
Detroit:
New York:
Phoenix:
Minnesota:
Brooklyn:

With the exception of Cleveland and Clippers, we all know those teams as constructed are either average or below average defensive teams. Clearly defense ratings are way off which is being reflected in team defense.

Most importantly you have to consider the teams that built defensive teams, if GM's put together defensive teams like Clippers and Sacramento obviously this mistake affects them 10x more then an offensive team.

i feel like my team should be a top 10, maybe top 5 defense. it's not, but i'm okay with it for now.


it's early enough in the season still where there will be corrections naturally without needing to mess with anything

That's my point, you built a defensive squad and because of the mistake made with defensive formula your squad will remain a below average defensive team.

I am not sure you saw my post, but there won't be corrections naturally because we are running the version where they messed up the defensive formula. How can you expect corrections when we're running the flawed version?

[Buzzard]

I don't really want to get into this all again because its kind of boring at this point but since it's the main discussion this morning... I think DePalma made the case for Wiseman pretty perfectly.

LeBron has been a multiple time MVP winner in this game. The "developers" obviously don't have an awful view of him. He has gotten off to a slow start shooting the ball this year in a 12 game sample size. But his other numbers are very comparable to last year. His three point shooting is much better while his two point FG% is way down. His FT% is also down through a 12 game sample size. His rebound, steals, blocks and turnover numbers are better in the sim than IRL while his assist number is down. And maybe most importantly, he has played 100% of sim games through the first month or so while he only played just over 62% of Laker games last season. And its been 12 games...so to say the sim has it in for LeBron? If he ends the season shooting 44% from the field then I would say he had an unexpectedly bad season but its been 12 games.

As for Sexton, he went from first option in Cleveland in 2020-21 to fourth option in Indiana (BaF) this year. His three point shooting numbers are way up, probably getting better looks with defenses focused on Luka and Zion rather than Darius Garland and Andre Drummond. Like LeBron, his two point and free throw percentages are way down though. His overall ratings though aren't that bad so maybe he is just having a difficult time personality wise adjusting to his new role as fourth option? Or maybe it has only been a 12 game sample size and teams can complain, try to adjust or just do nothing.

But it is what it is...to me its the reason the sim is good not bad. Because not everything would work just based on what the stats say on the back of their basketball card. Fit does seem to matter. Of course there are anomalies, breakouts and busts happen every year.

As for restarting the league, I'm not doing that...this takes 3 hours minimum per night as is. To restart now is not going to happen. I have periodically in past seasons gone to the Wolverine website and downloaded their latest updates when things have needed to be updated usually because of a technical issue rather than gameplay. I can do that again and then just continue on with the season as is assuming the newest download doesn't overwrite everything we've done up to this point.

This seems logical.

I like updating without a restart. FYI Sexton is the 3rd option so far. He is behind only Luka and Zion in attempts per game; and just ahead of KP.

[2010]

I think it's because they play slow, not that their defense is that good. They're the only team that plays grind. They do have some decent defensive pieces though.

I've been playing grind/attack since day 1 too. We're ranked 3rd on offense, but 13th on defense.

Interesting.

I’m 9th in the league in defense. Once bish goes to the Wolverine website and does the update I will monitor for 10 games. If at that point I’m still a top 10 defense and LeBron is still putting up JR Smith FG%’s, then I’m going GRIND and tryna win ugly. This pretty-boy schit might be for the birds.

[br7knicks]

I don't really want to get into this all again because its kind of boring at this point but since it's the main discussion this morning... I think DePalma made the case for Wiseman pretty perfectly.

LeBron has been a multiple time MVP winner in this game. The "developers" obviously don't have an awful view of him. He has gotten off to a slow start shooting the ball this year in a 12 game sample size. But his other numbers are very comparable to last year. His three point shooting is much better while his two point FG% is way down. His FT% is also down through a 12 game sample size. His rebound, steals, blocks and turnover numbers are better in the sim than IRL while his assist number is down. And maybe most importantly, he has played 100% of sim games through the first month or so while he only played just over 62% of Laker games last season. And its been 12 games...so to say the sim has it in for LeBron? If he ends the season shooting 44% from the field then I would say he had an unexpectedly bad season but its been 12 games.

As for Sexton, he went from first option in Cleveland in 2020-21 to fourth option in Indiana (BaF) this year. His three point shooting numbers are way up, probably getting better looks with defenses focused on Luka and Zion rather than Darius Garland and Andre Drummond. Like LeBron, his two point and free throw percentages are way down though. His overall ratings though aren't that bad so maybe he is just having a difficult time personality wise adjusting to his new role as fourth option? Or maybe it has only been a 12 game sample size and teams can complain, try to adjust or just do nothing.

But it is what it is...to me its the reason the sim is good not bad. Because not everything would work just based on what the stats say on the back of their basketball card. Fit does seem to matter. Of course there are anomalies, breakouts and busts happen every year.

As for restarting the league, I'm not doing that...this takes 3 hours minimum per night as is. To restart now is not going to happen. I have periodically in past seasons gone to the Wolverine website and downloaded their latest updates when things have needed to be updated usually because of a technical issue rather than gameplay. I can do that again and then just continue on with the season as is assuming the newest download doesn't overwrite everything we've done up to this point.

This seems logical.

I like updating without a restart. FYI Sexton is the 3rd option so far. He is behind only Luka and Zion in attempts per game; and just ahead of KP.

as long as it's not a hassle to bish, and the majority are okay with an update (not a restart), it doesn't bother me. hell, it'd probably help me. but i'm okay with nothing happening.

[bishnykfan]

I don't really want to get into this all again because its kind of boring at this point but since it's the main discussion this morning... I think DePalma made the case for Wiseman pretty perfectly.

LeBron has been a multiple time MVP winner in this game. The "developers" obviously don't have an awful view of him. He has gotten off to a slow start shooting the ball this year in a 12 game sample size. But his other numbers are very comparable to last year. His three point shooting is much better while his two point FG% is way down. His FT% is also down through a 12 game sample size. His rebound, steals, blocks and turnover numbers are better in the sim than IRL while his assist number is down. And maybe most importantly, he has played 100% of sim games through the first month or so while he only played just over 62% of Laker games last season. And its been 12 games...so to say the sim has it in for LeBron? If he ends the season shooting 44% from the field then I would say he had an unexpectedly bad season but its been 12 games.

As for Sexton, he went from first option in Cleveland in 2020-21 to fourth option in Indiana (BaF) this year. His three point shooting numbers are way up, probably getting better looks with defenses focused on Luka and Zion rather than Darius Garland and Andre Drummond. Like LeBron, his two point and free throw percentages are way down though. His overall ratings though aren't that bad so maybe he is just having a difficult time personality wise adjusting to his new role as fourth option? Or maybe it has only been a 12 game sample size and teams can complain, try to adjust or just do nothing.

But it is what it is...to me its the reason the sim is good not bad. Because not everything would work just based on what the stats say on the back of their basketball card. Fit does seem to matter. Of course there are anomalies, breakouts and busts happen every year.

As for restarting the league, I'm not doing that...this takes 3 hours minimum per night as is. To restart now is not going to happen. I have periodically in past seasons gone to the Wolverine website and downloaded their latest updates when things have needed to be updated usually because of a technical issue rather than gameplay. I can do that again and then just continue on with the season as is assuming the newest download doesn't overwrite everything we've done up to this point.

This seems logical.

I like updating without a restart. FYI Sexton is the 3rd option so far. He is behind only Luka and Zion in attempts per game; and just ahead of KP.

I submitted the question to the Wolverine site. They are usually pretty good about getting back to questions like this quickly. If the answer is positive, which I think it will be we maybe able to get an update in by tonight/tomorrow.

But just an FYI...Sexton is fourth in shot attempts per game for you this year so far.

[Capn'O]

I've been playing grind/attack since day 1 too. We're ranked 3rd on offense, but 13th on defense.

Interesting.

I’m 9th in the league in defense. Once bish goes to the Wolverine website and does the update I will monitor for 10 games. If at that point I’m still a top 10 defense and LeBron is still putting up JR Smith FG%’s, then I’m going GRIND and tryna win ugly. This pretty-boy schit might be for the birds.

I was in the top few but probably am not now after getting the door blown off twice without Gobert/George.

[Buzzard]

This seems logical.

I like updating without a restart. FYI Sexton is the 3rd option so far. He is behind only Luka and Zion in attempts per game; and just ahead of KP.

as long as it's not a hassle to bish, and the majority are okay with an update (not a restart), it doesn't bother me. hell, it'd probably help me. but i'm okay with nothing happening.

I think Bey and KP should be better defenders. Its weird though as Gay is around a 80 on defense...

[El Poochio]

Claxton dominating Wiseman you love to see it

Given that Wiseman is barely getting scrub minutes in the NBA, the real question is who should not be dominating Wiseman?

All NBA last year in sim

[2010]

For all of Hoffa’s bullschit attempts to jumpstart the schit talking between us by insinuating I failed LeBron by not putting together a good enough supporting cast, I will say this.

While LeBron has been the one struggling to have an acceptable (by his standards) FG% / FT% / PPG, his teammates have been the ones contributing to pick up the slack. Every game I get 5-7 guys scoring in double-figures and my Team PPG have went up dramatically since I acquired Rozier, with the lone exception being Smash’s Blazers holding us to 85 pts recently.

So if LeBron gets his scoring/FG/FT together, as long as the supporting cast remains consistent I expect to run off a winning streak at some point (as I do every season) and remain a playoff team.

And as usual, when that happens Hoffa will be quiet like a lil church mouse. He’s only talking cuz Toronto is up and down while he is rolling. Looking forward to our game tonight and hopefully embarrassing him.

We’ve had a brutal schedule and started out with a tough West Coast trip and still made it back home in decent shape.

[bringbackhoffa]

For all of Hoffa’s bullschit attempts to jumpstart the schit talking between us by insinuating I failed LeBron by not putting together a good enough supporting cast, I will say this.

While LeBron has been the one struggling to have an acceptable (by his standards) FG% / FT% / PPG, his teammates have been the ones contributing to pick up the slack. Every game I get 5-7 guys scoring in double-figures and my Team PPG have went up dramatically since I acquired Rozier, with the lone exception to Smash’s Blazers holding us to 85 pts recently.

So if LeBron gets his scoring/FG/FT together, as long as the supporting cast remains consistent I expect to run off a winning streak at some point (as I do every season) and remain a playoff team.

And as usual, when that happens Hoffa will be quiet like a lil church mouse. He’s only talking cuz Toronto is up and down while he is rolling. Looking forward to our game tonight and hopefully embarrassing him.

We’ve had a brutal schedule and started out with a tough West Coast trip and still made it back home in decent shape.

Its a long season.. i need something to entertain me.. until we face each other in the playoffs i will continue the schit talk

Also not a fan of people using the schedule as an excuse, if you are trying to build a championship contender it shouldn't matter who you face, make the necessary line up adjustments and go for the win as opposed to bowing down to defeat even before the game has been played.

[2010]

For all of Hoffa’s bullschit attempts to jumpstart the schit talking between us by insinuating I failed LeBron by not putting together a good enough supporting cast, I will say this.

While LeBron has been the one struggling to have an acceptable (by his standards) FG% / FT% / PPG, his teammates have been the ones contributing to pick up the slack. Every game I get 5-7 guys scoring in double-figures and my Team PPG have went up dramatically since I acquired Rozier, with the lone exception to Smash’s Blazers holding us to 85 pts recently.

So if LeBron gets his scoring/FG/FT together, as long as the supporting cast remains consistent I expect to run off a winning streak at some point (as I do every season) and remain a playoff team.

And as usual, when that happens Hoffa will be quiet like a lil church mouse. He’s only talking cuz Toronto is up and down while he is rolling. Looking forward to our game tonight and hopefully embarrassing him.

We’ve had a brutal schedule and started out with a tough West Coast trip and still made it back home in decent shape.

Its a long season.. i need something to entertain me.. until we face each other in the playoffs i will continue the schit talk

Also not a fan of people using the schedule as an excuse, if you are trying to build a championship contender it shouldn't matter who you face, make the necessary line up adjustments and go for the win as opposed to bowing down to defeat even before the game has been played.

Your sarcasm meter was definitely broken. I always play to win.

[2010]

November 13 (Tuesday)

Indiana @ Brooklyn
Cleveland @ New York
Charlotte @ Toronto <<————- (nationally televised)
Milwaukee @ Chicago
San Antonio @ Dallas
Portland @ Houston
Minnesota @ Utah
Oklahoma City @ Clippers
Boston @ Phoenix

Spoiler:

Spoiler:

[bringbackhoffa]

[Buzzard]

I have Brooklyn tonight. No easy task. I just noticed this. Poor KP is averaging 0.4 blocks per game...

[NewEra]

I have Brooklyn tonight. No easy task.

Kyrie has been killing!

[Buzzard]

I have Brooklyn tonight. No easy task.

Kyrie has been killing!

Yes, he leads the league in PPG and is 3rd in EFF. Its hard to beat that combination.

[bringbackhoffa]

[HerSports85]

I just googled wolverine sports and apparently they have fixed the defensive ratings:

Version 11.3 (12/20/21)
-----------------------------
- database changes and updates
- correction to formula for determining defensive ratings


https://www.draftdaysports.com/board/viewtopic.php?f=343&t=34597

I actually think the defensive ratings being so bad is a big problem this edition, and we should use the most updated version. We all criticized the defensive ratings before the season began, and it looks like there was a coding/development mistake that has been corrected now.

If Bish agrees and y'all also agree I think Bish should download the latest file, restart or update the season with new ratings --> if he has to restart he doesn't have to post box scores which is appreciated but takes a lot of time, he can instead go straight to simulating 13 games and continue where we were with fixed ratings and continue the season like usual.

And1 this post or quote me if you guys agree we should update ratings of defense, and hopefully FG% issues with players like LeBron and Sexton are solved too.

I agree, we should definitely do an update.

[Buzzard]

I just googled wolverine sports and apparently they have fixed the defensive ratings:

Version 11.3 (12/20/21)
-----------------------------
- database changes and updates
- correction to formula for determining defensive ratings


https://www.draftdaysports.com/board/viewtopic.php?f=343&t=34597

I actually think the defensive ratings being so bad is a big problem this edition, and we should use the most updated version. We all criticized the defensive ratings before the season began, and it looks like there was a coding/development mistake that has been corrected now.

If Bish agrees and y'all also agree I think Bish should download the latest file, restart or update the season with new ratings --> if he has to restart he doesn't have to post box scores which is appreciated but takes a lot of time, he can instead go straight to simulating 13 games and continue where we were with fixed ratings and continue the season like usual.

And1 this post or quote me if you guys agree we should update ratings of defense, and hopefully FG% issues with players like LeBron and Sexton are solved too.

I agree, we should definitely do an update.

I imagine my Pacers team will not be as much fun to play against if KP, Bey, and Reddish get bumps in defense.