PG: Omigod, The Sky is Falling! NOT!!! The Buzz Train Keeps-a-Rolling, Jazz Gutted

[TheGreenArrow]

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[knicksfan974]

This team is special, love it!

[Clyde_Style]

Nova guys are balling out. Love those guys!
Precious really adds an element we were missing and playing well
Grimes showing some signs

This team keeps rolling!

Grimes is waking dafuq up!!!!

I agree. Jerry West's prediction of him being better than Barrett is starting to show.

I like when he attacks the rim. And when his 3 is going, we look unbeatable.

I think Grimes is a keeper. It may be better to see if he develops more before trading him. That way if he does develop, we can probably use him to grab a star.

During his offensive struggles he has always been an important defender for us. He remains a top defender and his assignments often struggle to score against him which adds to his net value on the floor. With an uptick in scoring again, he becomes a major plus.

I see no reason to trade him since he can function with any unit. If that only results in him being a tradeable asset, then so be it, but I think he can be a key piece for us long-term.

This continued high level play with Randle and OG off the floor should open everyone's eyes to the value of depth. Some rash folks have consistently stated we have little talent on the bench. They're just flat out wrong.

This is why a long-term vision and player development results in championship rosters. You need to have guys who all buy in and stay ready for when their number is called. Our culture is winning and for that I give Thibs the props.

So all the cats in here who spew crappy hot takes every time Grimes clanks a jumper can call him trash until he proves them wrong. Talent evaluation is for level headed people who can see past the struggles. Grimes is a two-way talent and with some patience he will reward the team for sticking by him.

[knicks94]

What impresses me the most is how Buzzardman went from giving the Knicks bad luck whenever he'd show up on the GT to bringing them good luck by being the OP of the game threads.

[Clyde_Style]

What impresses me the most is how Buzzardman went from giving the Knicks bad luck whenever he'd show up on the GT to bringing them good luck by being the OP of the game threads.

A Buzzard Reborn by Arthur C. Clarke is a really special story

[HopelessKnick]

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Uh oh, do not like to hear that at all. The Jazz have 40 million in capspace. I really really hope the Knicks are already talking to Hartenstein and planning on somehow extending him. The league is taking notice and I'm already fearing some team offering him 20+ million.

As I understand it we can at most offer him 15million a year---if we offer him a 1 and 1 ...how much could we offer after the first year?

Something like this: "Listen Isiah, we know you are getting better offers but we can offer you a 30million 1 and 1 and we guarantee you to up your salary after the first year...with no ifs and buts....."

Is that possible?

[Davis18]

I can't wait for the Pacers game.
Brunson gonna humble Halibutton.
We need OG back just in case.
Donte has been unreal since Randle injury even Precious.
Keep it up Grimes and Deuce too.
Just great team ball w/ timely Brunson iso.
Best times since.. I can't remember.

[stuporman]

The Knicks 14-2 record for the month of January is staggering in its dominance once one goes into the details of these games. The two losses were of 4 point deficits each for a total of 8 points, that's all, just 8 total points in the losses, so slight.

Of the 14 wins, 11 of them were double digits wins, which means the Knicks had more double digits wins(11) than the number of points total(8) in both of their losses during the stretch. Further illustrating it, nearly half, 5 in number, of the double digit wins were 20 point wins and 2 of them 30 point wins.

In the 16 games of the new year the Knicks gave up a total of 1601 points, so this team was one made basket away from holding opponents to an average of less than 100 per game.

I can not remember a more sustained stretch of dominating play by the Knicks since the 90s which makes sense because that was when the franchise mark for best monthly record they just tied was.

It's quite mind-boggling how they have played this past month, is this real life?

[egelband]

Remember how we needed to acquire depth for the front line?

We did.

OG and Precious have given us that depth.

Precious is a great pick-up. He's showing signs that he can more than a junkyard dog. Very pleased with his game tonight.

Also, Sims played well too. He was bodying the Jazz and even showed a few moves of his own. He was always a project player and now he is stepping up.

Knicks appear to be developing players and putting guys in appropriate roles. This and the scouting has to be the story of this front office. I’m thoroughly impressed.
I really see no reason for them to make a big move here. Fournier and a pick for an excellent bench piece. I wouldn’t **** with this team’s chemistry now.

[Jalen Bluntson]

The Knicks 14-2 record for the month of January is staggering in its dominance once one goes into the details of these games. The two losses were of 4 point deficits each for a total of 8 points, that's all, just 8 total points in the losses, so slight.

Of the 14 wins, 11 of them were double digits wins, which means the Knicks had more double digits wins(11) than the number of points total(8) in both of their losses during the stretch. Further illustrating it, nearly half, 5 in number, of the double digit wins were 20 point wins and 2 of them 30 point wins.

In the 16 games of the new year the Knicks gave up a total of 1601 points, so this team was one made basket away from holding opponents to an average of less than 100 per game.

I can not remember a more sustained stretch of dominating play by the Knicks since the 90s which makes sense because that was when the franchise mark for best monthly record they just tied was.

It's quite mind-boggling how they have played this past month, is this real life?

I have hated on Thibs for his boring ISO offense but, couldn't argue with the results. Ugly but it works. Have always loved his defense but, not the three point defense. I have hated on Randle for his lazy play and crying to the refs instead of getting back but, acknowledged that when he gives effort he's a beast. I used to flat out hate him and his stupid face. Always hoped he would turn it around when he was sucking up the place. IOW I get emotional when I should be patient.

I will never let up on this short rotation BS though that Thibs does. It takes injuries for some players to get burn. He leaves the starters in way too long in blowout wins and losses. He runs players into the ground with erratic minutes distribution. He doesn't let his bench get enough minutes to keep them involved and the rotation fresh for the long haul. He is a maniac. It does look like he will never stop but, he needs to.

We could easily run an 11 man rotation and not lose a beat but, he refuses. It's insanity. I'm not saying every game he needs to do this but, far more than he does. Trust the bench and keep the rotation healthy for the long haul. It's not crazy to suggest. Hoping he learns something after seeing what is going on this season. We can make a deep playoff run without making any trades if they keep this up until everyone is back healthy.

Brunson/Deuce
DDV/Grimes
OG/Hart
Randle/Precious
iHart/Mitch/Sims

I was so down on our bench players because they looked like trash after the OG trade. Now that they are getting minutes they look like they can handle it or they are coming around. Who knew? This season could be truly special without any major trades. I would not have thought this a month ago. It took injuries to find out what we have. He can't just jerk players in and out of the rotation now because they missed a shot or a defensive rotation. Should have been giving them more minutes all along.

Do we really need to trade away picks for bench depth right now or, am I just a prisoner of the moment during this 16 game stretch? I know we could upgrade the team but, at what cost? They look like a well oiled machine even without Mitch/Randle/OG. Is this real life?

[NoStatsGuy]

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Uh oh, do not like to hear that at all. The Jazz have 40 million in capspace. I really really hope the Knicks are already talking to Hartenstein and planning on somehow extending him. The league is taking notice and I'm already fearing some team offering him 20+ million.

As I understand it we can at most offer him 15million a year---if we offer him a 1 and 1 ...how much could we offer after the first year?

Something like this: "Listen Isiah, we know you are getting better offers but we can offer you a 30million 1 and 1 and we guarantee you to up your salary after the first year...with no ifs and buts....."

Is that possible?

this is what happens, when teams ascend. not enough money to pay em all.

its gonna be interesting to see what our FO prioritizes. I heared people talk about how the knicks are one of the best run franchises these days. and i know people here hate on leon and thibs. but those guys did it, they put it together and developed this team.

id go as far as considering to trade mitch. we dont need him and hes always hurt. we give that money to iHart.
Ofc having healthy mitch would be scary to think about in terms of defense, but we are already miles ahead everybody else.

98.x defensive rtg since OG came. that is so nuts. teams are legit quitting in the 4th, they cant handle this physicality, this defensive pressure. the knicks are suffocating teams even without mitch. id say trade mitch as long as he has some value. iHart is just better for this team.

[Jalen Bluntson]

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Uh oh, do not like to hear that at all. The Jazz have 40 million in capspace. I really really hope the Knicks are already talking to Hartenstein and planning on somehow extending him. The league is taking notice and I'm already fearing some team offering him 20+ million.

As I understand it we can at most offer him 15million a year---if we offer him a 1 and 1 ...how much could we offer after the first year?

Something like this: "Listen Isiah, we know you are getting better offers but we can offer you a 30million 1 and 1 and we guarantee you to up your salary after the first year...with no ifs and buts....."

Is that possible?

this is what happens, when teams ascend. not enough money to pay em all.

its gonna be interesting to see what our FO prioritizes. I heared people talk about how the knicks are one of the best run franchises these days. and i know people here hate on leon and thibs. but those guys did it, they put it together and developed this team.

id go as far as considering to trade mitch. we dont need him and hes always hurt. we give that money to iHart.
Ofc having healthy mitch would be scary to think about in terms of defense, but we are already miles ahead everybody else.

98.x defensive rtg since OG came. that is so nuts. teams are legit quitting in the 4th, they cant handle this physicality, this defensive pressure. the knicks are suffocating teams even without mitch. id say trade mitch as long as he has some value. iHart is just better for this team.

I trust this FO to navigate the cap at the very least. Aller is a damn genius and Leon has guys taking team friendly deals all of the time.

[HopelessKnick]

The Knicks 14-2 record for the month of January is staggering in its dominance once one goes into the details of these games. The two losses were of 4 point deficits each for a total of 8 points, that's all, just 8 total points in the losses, so slight.

Of the 14 wins, 11 of them were double digits wins, which means the Knicks had more double digits wins(11) than the number of points total(8) in both of their losses during the stretch. Further illustrating it, nearly half, 5 in number, of the double digit wins were 20 point wins and 2 of them 30 point wins.

In the 16 games of the new year the Knicks gave up a total of 1601 points, so this team was one made basket away from holding opponents to an average of less than 100 per game.

I can not remember a more sustained stretch of dominating play by the Knicks since the 90s which makes sense because that was when the franchise mark for best monthly record they just tied was.

It's quite mind-boggling how they have played this past month, is this real life?

I have hated on Thibs for his boring ISO offense but, couldn't argue with the results. Ugly but it works. Have always loved his defense but, not the three point defense. I have hated on Randle for his lazy play and crying to the refs instead of getting back but, acknowledged that when he gives effort he's a beast. I used to flat out hate him and his stupid face. Always hoped he would turn it around when he was sucking up the place. IOW I get emotional when I should be patient.

I will never let up on this short rotation BS though that Thibs does. It takes injuries for some players to get burn. He leaves the starters in way too long in blowout wins and losses. He runs players into the ground with erratic minutes distribution. He doesn't let his bench get enough minutes to keep them involved and the rotation fresh for the long haul. He is a maniac. It does look like he will never stop but, he needs to.

We could easily run an 11 man rotation and not lose a beat but, he refuses. It's insanity. I'm not saying every game he needs to do this but, far more than he does. Trust the bench and keep the rotation healthy for the long haul. It's not crazy to suggest. Hoping he learns something after seeing what is going on this season. We can make a deep playoff run without making any trades if they keep this up until everyone is back healthy.

Brunson/Deuce
DDV/Grimes
OG/Hart
Randle/Precious
iHart/Mitch/Sims

I was so down on our bench players because they looked like trash after the OG trade. Now that they are getting minutes they look like they can handle it or they are coming around. Who knew? This season could be truly special without any major trades. I would not have thought this a month ago. It took injuries to find out what we have. He can't just jerk players in and out of the rotation now because they missed a shot or a defensive rotation. Should have been giving them more minutes all along.

Do we really need to trade away picks for bench depth right now or, am I just a prisoner of the moment during this 16 game stretch? I know we could upgrade the team but, at what cost? They look like a well oiled machine even without Mitch/Randle/OG. Is this real life?

I completely agree with you and Thibs leaving in players too long at the end of games. He definitely increases the risk to his players a lot--no ifs or buts. It is no coincidence that injury problems are something that has plagued all his teams.

1. I read somewhere that Randle was having some knee soreness prior to his shoulder injury. Randle was averaging 35minutes in january. Now keep in mind that we had like close to 10 blowout wins and yet there wasn't a single game where he played less than 30 minutes. Not even in the Philly 30+ blowout win and in Denver's 40+ point blowout win. Completely crazy.

2. Hartenstein has been having Achilles trouble since last season and has been dealing with it for weeks (according to Thibs)---yet he was playing him like 40 minutes a game regularly. Absolutely crazy. Keep also in mind, that before the Mitch injury, Thibs was playing Hartenstein 16 minutes a game. Talk about a bigtime misjudgement of talent and impact. We will never know, but maybe if he played them both evenly (24/24) both of them would be healthy today.

3. Look at the Precious situation. Again Misjudgement---Precious is a worthy backup player, long, athletic and generally good. Yet he played very little prior to the Randle injury. You could see some 20minute games in blowout, but outside of that he would play like 6-7 minutes a game. Thibs is a poor judge of talent and what his players are capable of. We could be in a situation where we would not only have the same record, but also have much more health in our team.

[HopelessKnick]

Uh oh, do not like to hear that at all. The Jazz have 40 million in capspace. I really really hope the Knicks are already talking to Hartenstein and planning on somehow extending him. The league is taking notice and I'm already fearing some team offering him 20+ million.

As I understand it we can at most offer him 15million a year---if we offer him a 1 and 1 ...how much could we offer after the first year?

Something like this: "Listen Isiah, we know you are getting better offers but we can offer you a 30million 1 and 1 and we guarantee you to up your salary after the first year...with no ifs and buts....."

Is that possible?

this is what happens, when teams ascend. not enough money to pay em all.

its gonna be interesting to see what our FO prioritizes. I heared people talk about how the knicks are one of the best run franchises these days. and i know people here hate on leon and thibs. but those guys did it, they put it together and developed this team.

id go as far as considering to trade mitch. we dont need him and hes always hurt. we give that money to iHart.
Ofc having healthy mitch would be scary to think about in terms of defense, but we are already miles ahead everybody else.

98.x defensive rtg since OG came. that is so nuts. teams are legit quitting in the 4th, they cant handle this physicality, this defensive pressure. the knicks are suffocating teams even without mitch. id say trade mitch as long as he has some value. iHart is just better for this team.

I trust this FO to navigate the cap at the very least. Aller is a damn genius and Leon has guys taking team friendly deals all of the time.

We can't lose him. Crazy to think he is just 25 years old. Could be a true impact Center for the next close to a decade. We need to keep him in whatever way possible. I agree with trading Mitch as well. Not because I dislike him or his game but solely due to injury risk. I would definitely consider it in the right deal. Still I hope Mitch comes back before the playoffs....would make us legitimately scary.

[knicks94]

We could have easily gone 16-0 in January had we stopped Kyrie and had Brunson played against Orlando.

[BKlutch]

It feels weird talking from our position as knicks fans nowadays. We're legit.. legit. This feels sustainable ... seems like the Knicks organization is on an upward trajectory and the league definitely notices it. Leon rose n Co have built a solid foundation and I hope its one thats last for a very long time. JB JR lets go

Nah, it just feels weird for you to be talking because you’re a newbie.

The rest of us have been preparing for this for decades.

[Reign23]

this run is so crazy, that you almost can't take that many lineup projections from it.
right now, Brunson would probably beat the 2017 Warriors by 30 with Charlie Brown, Windler, Archi and Jacob Toppin

I guess we still need a bench scorer to become a real contender.

[Reign23]

get Mikal to complete the Nova Boys!

[TKKnicks1]

The schedule was brutal to start the season and this team sustained well. Now we have a ton of home games and schedule is easing up and this team is just clicking on all cylinders. This legit could be our year so I would hate to waste it. We just need that one trade to ensure we have a long playoff run. I hope Leon pulls off one more magic trick at the deadline.

[thebuzzardman]

Too much positivity in here