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Re: PG: KNICKS Z-League Beats Charlotte Starters 

Post#261 » by StlHawksFan » Thu Oct 17, 2024 7:32 pm

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I agree with you, Smart doesn't make sense and right now, I think we need both Precious and Mitch, so it doesn't make sense on 2 levels.

There's team building for the 2025 playoff run and roster building for future trades. Adding Bogs last year kind of helped both of those categories. He gave us more than Fournier did and he was extended a year further, so he was a trade chip.

I think we give up too much size if that Smart rumor has any truth to it.

Precious could walk after this year, if another team offers him like 10 to 12 million per. I don't think NY could match that. Mitch might have more trade value next year as an expiring, so . . . I don't know. Wait and see I suppose.

if hukporti becomes a legit rotation piece, it might be smart to capitalize on trading precious's contract before we lose him in free agency imo. there is prob a good list of players we can get with 20 mill in salary.


he can be resigned for 150% of the last contract... which is more than fine amount for his level of talents


We have his Bird rights. He can be signed for any value up to the max. But we no longer have matching rights. The 1yr deal is because of flexibility. But Thibs clearly likes him.
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Re: PG: KNICKS Z-League Beats Charlotte Starters 

Post#262 » by thebuzzardman » Thu Oct 17, 2024 7:34 pm

TJ gets the Shamet spot, Huk the last minimum
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Post#263 » by B8RcDeMktfxC » Thu Oct 17, 2024 7:35 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:Knicks are likely going to keep hunting for Hukporti type players that don't cost them any assets to sign

Long term that seems likely. At the moment, as this tweet points out they have to be players who haven't played in the NBA and to whom the Knicks own the draft rights. Apart from Hukporti and McCullar that's basically Nnaji, Rokas, Lessort and Jaramaz,

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Post#264 » by B8RcDeMktfxC » Thu Oct 17, 2024 7:47 pm

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B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:People keep trying to bundle Knicks players to reach some 20m "better" player. At this point not only can the Knicks not take more salary back than they send out, they can't send more players out than they get back.


Bingo. Knicks can't even sign a vet min guy for slot #14! It has to be a rookie exception.

People thought the Knicks couldn't aggregate players to get KAT but they did.
The list of tradable players is what they could use this year and next, aggregated or not. Might be a marginal one for one move.

I was specifically talking about trading this year (eg right now) for someone like Marcus Smart, who makes about $100,000 less than Mitch and Precious combined. That wouldn't leave the Knicks enough space to pay, eg, McCullars and Hukporti the minimum, assuming they sign TJ Warren or Shamet or whoever. They could sign McCullars, Hukporti and Jaramaz - maybe Jaramaz in Spain makes less than the rookie minimum???

So you've essentially traded

Mitch, Precious and TJ Warren (or Morris or whoever)

for Marcus Smart, McCullars and Jaramaz. :D
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Re: PG: KNICKS Z-League Beats Charlotte Starters 

Post#265 » by B8RcDeMktfxC » Thu Oct 17, 2024 7:49 pm

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B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:People keep trying to bundle Knicks players to reach some 20m "better" player. At this point not only can the Knicks not take more salary back than they send out, they can't send more players out than they get back.


So what realistic trades you think the Knicks can make with Mitch ?


https://www.spotrac.com/nba/rankings/player/_/year/2024/sort/cap_total is your friend. Scroll down to 114 and start reading the names below. :wink:
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Post#266 » by HarthorneWingo » Thu Oct 17, 2024 8:05 pm

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Where would a $20M player get minutes at?
If we have to trade Mitch I certainly wouldn't trade Precious too. And if they are angling for old ass Marcus Smart with that 20 million... that would majorly DUMB imo.


Agreed. The starting rotation is set, even without Mitch. If Shamet needs surgery and we go out look for bench help, then maybe I can see something getting done with Mitch. But I think that Thibs wants to see Mitch and KAT play together because of defense.
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Post#267 » by sol537 » Thu Oct 17, 2024 8:38 pm

I think we sign Morris or Bullock to that 14th spot. Huk takes the rookie 13th spot.

We then use Precious, Payne and McBride as our main bench rotation with Huk (or Sims) getting like 10-15 minutes to serve as the "Mitch Robinson" surrogate until Mitch comes back to his 20-24 minute role.

It makes a lot of sense. 8.5 man rotation.
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Post#268 » by RHODEY » Thu Oct 17, 2024 8:50 pm

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Where would a $20M player get minutes at?
If we have to trade Mitch I certainly wouldn't trade Precious too. And if they are angling for old ass Marcus Smart with that 20 million... that would majorly DUMB imo.


Agreed. The starting rotation is set, even without Mitch. If Shamet needs surgery and we go out look for bench help, then maybe I can see something getting done with Mitch. But I think that Thibs wants to see Mitch and KAT play together because of defense.

Latest intel says if Shamet cant play they would look to sign either Warren or Morris to the minimum. If this is true, I'm rooting for Warren because I think he can still get buckets.
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Post#269 » by HarthorneWingo » Thu Oct 17, 2024 9:02 pm

RHODEY wrote:
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RHODEY wrote:If we have to trade Mitch I certainly wouldn't trade Precious too. And if they are angling for old ass Marcus Smart with that 20 million... that would majorly DUMB imo.


Agreed. The starting rotation is set, even without Mitch. If Shamet needs surgery and we go out look for bench help, then maybe I can see something getting done with Mitch. But I think that Thibs wants to see Mitch and KAT play together because of defense.

Latest intel says if Shamet cant play they would look to sign either Warren or Morris to the minimum. If this is true, I'm rooting for Warren because I think he can still get buckets.


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Post#270 » by stuporman » Thu Oct 17, 2024 9:08 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:TJ gets the Shamet spot, Huk the last minimum


From your lips to Rose's ears because I don't want Thibs getting Bullock on speed dial... :o

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Re: PG: KNICKS Z-League Beats Charlotte Starters 

Post#271 » by BKlutch » Thu Oct 17, 2024 9:11 pm

B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:People keep trying to bundle Knicks players to reach some 20m "better" player. At this point not only can the Knicks not take more salary back than they send out, they can't send more players out than they get back.

This latter part that they can't send more players out than they get back is because almost every team is in the same situation as the Knicks -- meaning those other teams can't take in more than they send out. So it seems like a 2-way cocq block BUT

Teams like Charlotte are below the first apron so they CAN take in more than they send out. For example, we could trade them Sims for a 2nd round pick. We open up space, they get a cheap player with great hair.

Now that "we showed them our 2nd unit with Sims can destroy their first unit" they will definitely want Sims badly! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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