PG: Knicks vs. Thunder: BELT-TO-ASS GAME

[Jalen Bluntson]

Been saying this for weeks. This team doesn't have enough quality wins and quality loses. I was probably saying this last season, but I think the Knicks have hit their ceiling with Thibs. I defended this guy hard last season, but I think it was a major fumble not to develop starter and bench chemistry simultaneously.

Now, anyone can be made to look like a punk against OKC, but if we're supposed contenders (after these bad loses, I'm lowering my expectations for this season), they have to at least pull out a quality lost. Nothing looked good yesterday. Starters seemed gassed again at various moments, Bridges had his worst game as a Knick, JB taking only 2 3's is telling me more about his hand than OKC's defense (I do like that he's forcing contact, though), I don't know what Shamet provides, Payne is very much a confident driven player and it seems to me he hasn't responded well since that random benching a couple of weeks ago, McBide hasn't elevated his game. Honestly, if our big swing is next season, I rather Thibs just expand the rotation, and get these rookies experience.

I think this team has much more problems than Thibs. Josh hart is talking about players need to stop having egos and agendas. Something is going on behind the scenes.

Josh Hart Monday: “…We can't have our own individual agendas…We gotta make sure we're locked in on this team, sacrificing for this team…”

Josh Hart Friday: “…We have to go out there with no egos…Go out there with no individual agendas…Go out there and sacrifice…”

Is it prep talk? Guys not buying into Thibs?? JB??? Too vague for me, honestly.

I can see Jalen may be a bit of a self righteous dick at times. So can Hart though. Maybe they had an argument ? I don't get what agendas he is talking about. It definitely doesn't feel right though. The energy and vibes the last week have been abysmal.

[whocares1]

Now, anyone can be made to look like a punk against OKC, but if we're supposed contenders (after these bad loses, I'm lowering my expectations for this season), they have to at least pull out a quality lost. Nothing looked good yesterday. Starters seemed gassed again at various moments, Bridges had his worst game as a Knick, JB taking only 2 3's is telling me more about his hand than OKC's defense (I do like that he's forcing contact, though), I don't know what Shamet provides, Payne is very much a confident driven player and it seems to me he hasn't responded well since that random benching a couple of weeks ago, McBide hasn't elevated his game. Honestly, if our big swing is next season, I rather Thibs just expand the rotation, and get these rookies experience.
I think this team has much more problems than Thibs. Josh hart is talking about players need to stop having egos and agendas. Something is going on behind the scenes.

Bc it is vague. I remember when he said feeding Kat on mismatches was making our offense too predictable and made our offense stagnant. He just thinks that the power of friendship is gonna win us these games but that just isn’t the case when the other team has more talent.

[Kampuchea]

Shooters get cold, that’s all it is. Minutes have no bearing on this game at all.

We will get back on track soon. Not worried

[Fury]

I think this team has much more problems than Thibs. Josh hart is talking about players need to stop having egos and agendas. Something is going on behind the scenes.

Josh Hart Monday: “…We can't have our own individual agendas…We gotta make sure we're locked in on this team, sacrificing for this team…”

Josh Hart Friday: “…We have to go out there with no egos…Go out there with no individual agendas…Go out there and sacrifice…”

Is it prep talk? Guys not buying into Thibs?? JB??? Too vague for me, honestly.

I can see Jalen may be a bit of a self righteous dick at times. So can Hart though. Maybe they had an argument ? I don't get what agendas he is talking about. It definitely doesn't feel right though. The energy and vibes the last week have been abysmal.

If I had to guess, it has to do with multiple players on the defensive end

[3toheadmelo]

You’re stargazing at other team’s stars
I hate when Knick fans do that
Because guaranteed if Brunson was in an okc jersey, sga was in a Knick jersey and Thibs was still our coach you’d still be starphuqin and say “wow look at Brunson man, he should look good in NY”

It’s the coach who dimmed the light of stars from an MVP in rose, to butler to KAT in minny and to Brunson

There’s no “built to play in NY” currently
It’s simply one man at the helm who has the team wrapped around his finger. There’s no NY culture. He IS the culture.

The hell are you talking about. This wasn't comparing brunson to SGA. I love Brunson. I'm just appreciating SGA's game. Your obsession with Thibs got you spiraling out of control lately. Relax.

Same as your obsession with Randle?
I don’t have an obsession with one player or one coach. I have an obsession for the overall goal of winning a chip. No player or coach is above that. I root for the name on the front of the jersey, not the name on the back.

I, and countless posters beat the drum about firing Thibs. But the second you get called out for saying sga would indeed not look good in a Knicks uniform, because we would still have an orc for a coach, you turn back and say it’s my obsession with Thibs. Lmaooo you can put Giannis, Jokic and sga all on this squad and we would still lose if Thibs was the head coach. Go back to complaining about not having Randle, Melo.

You got a really weird obsession with Thibs. Can't even appreciate other players crafts without you turning it into some thibs bs. Quite the spin you did.

[3toheadmelo]

SGA looks like one of them dudes that's built to play in NY

I think hes the best player in the NBA.

Same here. I don't think there's a single player who can guard him. And his defense is pretty damn good as well. Only thing Im not a fan of is his foul baiting but besides that, he's amazing to watch

[jvsimonetti0514]

Been saying this for weeks. This team doesn't have enough quality wins and quality loses. I was probably saying this last season, but I think the Knicks have hit their ceiling with Thibs. I defended this guy hard last season, but I think it was a major fumble not to develop starter and bench chemistry simultaneously.

Now, anyone can be made to look like a punk against OKC, but if we're supposed contenders (after these bad loses, I'm lowering my expectations for this season), they have to at least pull out a quality lost. Nothing looked good yesterday. Starters seemed gassed again at various moments, Bridges had his worst game as a Knick, JB taking only 2 3's is telling me more about his hand than OKC's defense (I do like that he's forcing contact, though), I don't know what Shamet provides, Payne is very much a confident driven player and it seems to me he hasn't responded well since that random benching a couple of weeks ago, McBide hasn't elevated his game. Honestly, if our big swing is next season, I rather Thibs just expand the rotation, and get these rookies experience.

I think this team has much more problems than Thibs. Josh hart is talking about players need to stop having egos and agendas. Something is going on behind the scenes.

Josh Hart Monday: “…We can't have our own individual agendas…We gotta make sure we're locked in on this team, sacrificing for this team…”

Josh Hart Friday: “…We have to go out there with no egos…Go out there with no individual agendas…Go out there and sacrifice…”

Is it prep talk? Guys not buying into Thibs?? JB??? Too vague for me, honestly.

It’s definitely something. Has to be with the starters too.

[3toheadmelo]

Been saying this for weeks. This team doesn't have enough quality wins and quality loses. I was probably saying this last season, but I think the Knicks have hit their ceiling with Thibs. I defended this guy hard last season, but I think it was a major fumble not to develop starter and bench chemistry simultaneously.

Now, anyone can be made to look like a punk against OKC, but if we're supposed contenders (after these bad loses, I'm lowering my expectations for this season), they have to at least pull out a quality lost. Nothing looked good yesterday. Starters seemed gassed again at various moments, Bridges had his worst game as a Knick, JB taking only 2 3's is telling me more about his hand than OKC's defense (I do like that he's forcing contact, though), I don't know what Shamet provides, Payne is very much a confident driven player and it seems to me he hasn't responded well since that random benching a couple of weeks ago, McBide hasn't elevated his game. Honestly, if our big swing is next season, I rather Thibs just expand the rotation, and get these rookies experience.

I think this team has much more problems than Thibs. Josh hart is talking about players need to stop having egos and agendas. Something is going on behind the scenes.

Josh Hart Monday: “…We can't have our own individual agendas…We gotta make sure we're locked in on this team, sacrificing for this team…”

Josh Hart Friday: “…We have to go out there with no egos…Go out there with no individual agendas…Go out there and sacrifice…”

Is it prep talk? Guys not buying into Thibs?? JB??? Too vague for me, honestly.

To me it sounds like players aren't buying in.

[Fat Kat]

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He needs more minutes. No more Sims

[HEZI]

Shooters get cold, that’s all it is. Minutes have no bearing on this game at all.

We will get back on track soon. Not worried

Yeah even elite shooters go through a slump. I don’t think Mikal is an elite shooter especially with the changes he’s made to his shooting form. He was struggling shooting even in the early part of the season. There is an inconsistency in his shot that he looks like he’s still working on fixing.

[prophet_of_rage]

Bench sucks, Thibs suck. Both can be true at the same time you dont have to pick a side lol

Nobody has ever said the bench is good, that's just a strawman argument these posters use to defend Tom. Everyone says the bench needs to play, regardless of outcome, like the Celtics don't have a good bench at all but they still play more than ours.

Exactly. People seem to think us saying the bench should play more means we’re saying the bench is going to save us. No, the bench is going to save the starters and they are the ones who are going to save us.

Right now we’re just running our top guys into the dirt and it’s clearly taking a toll on them not even halfway through the season

As long as the board is cool with losses. That does not seem to be the case.

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[DaGawd]

Shooters get cold, that’s all it is. Minutes have no bearing on this game at all.

We will get back on track soon. Not worried

Yeah even elite shooters go through a slump. I don’t think Mikal is an elite shooter especially with the changes he’s made to his shooting form. He was struggling shooting even in the early part of the season. There is an inconsistency in his shot that he looks like he’s still working on fixing.

is it gonna be a season long thing? it’s weird af how his form is constantly changing from 3 point range.. makes no sense for a pro athlete

[The KnicksFix]

The hell are you talking about. This wasn't comparing brunson to SGA. I love Brunson. I'm just appreciating SGA's game. Your obsession with Thibs got you spiraling out of control lately. Relax.

Same as your obsession with Randle?
I don’t have an obsession with one player or one coach. I have an obsession for the overall goal of winning a chip. No player or coach is above that. I root for the name on the front of the jersey, not the name on the back.

I, and countless posters beat the drum about firing Thibs. But the second you get called out for saying sga would indeed not look good in a Knicks uniform, because we would still have an orc for a coach, you turn back and say it’s my obsession with Thibs. Lmaooo you can put Giannis, Jokic and sga all on this squad and we would still lose if Thibs was the head coach. Go back to complaining about not having Randle, Melo.

You got a really weird obsession with Thibs. Can't even appreciate other players crafts without you turning it into some thibs bs. Quite the spin you did.

I have an unhealthy obsession with winning a ring. This is the best championship level squad I’ve seen 31 years of watching the Knicks. No other players would look good in a uniform because We can keep adding and still be unsuccessful with this coach. Trying to scapegoat me about Thibs, as if 90% of the board doesn’t want him fired. It’s not a spin, I’m not starphuqin other players, I roll with NY. I focus on what we have and coaching schemes to maximize what we have.

Your level of a coach is determined by what you can get out of your team. Thibs gets carried by the talent of his players. So go ahead, add the top 5 players in the league to the team, and when we continue to lose, you’d still end up looking at the next five players. Come on man.

[The KnicksFix]

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The hell are you talking about. This wasn't comparing brunson to SGA. I love Brunson. I'm just appreciating SGA's game. Your obsession with Thibs got you spiraling out of control lately. Relax.

Same as your obsession with Randle?
I don’t have an obsession with one player or one coach. I have an obsession for the overall goal of winning a chip. No player or coach is above that. I root for the name on the front of the jersey, not the name on the back.

I, and countless posters beat the drum about firing Thibs. But the second you get called out for saying sga would indeed not look good in a Knicks uniform, because we would still have an orc for a coach, you turn back and say it’s my obsession with Thibs. Lmaooo you can put Giannis, Jokic and sga all on this squad and we would still lose if Thibs was the head coach. Go back to complaining about not having Randle, Melo.

You got a really weird obsession with Thibs. Can't even appreciate other players crafts without you turning it into some thibs bs. Quite the spin you did.

You’ve specifically asked me in the past if I think I can coach the team better than Thibs
You seem to have an obsession asking specifically me about why I don’t like Thibs when 90% of the board doesn’t want him to be the coach of the team.
I’ve copped for you in the past, but if it were up to fans like you, you’d still be crying about not having Randle. There’s an entire thread that was dedicated specifically because of your takes saying that the team would be better off had we kept the team together and not done the trade and your ideology that Randle > KAT. It wasn’t until the entire board bullied your blasphemist asinine takes did you finally acquiesce.

For the last time. You can add SGA, Jokic, Giannis whoever else you want , it wouldn’t matter because YOUR coach would run those players at 40+ mins a game each in games in October to December so that they’re dead come January. This isn’t about other players saying they’d look good in our jersey. No. It’s about having pride in not having those players come into your house and smack you because it’s the coach that’s holding back your team.

[Kampuchea]

Shooters get cold, that’s all it is. Minutes have no bearing on this game at all.

We will get back on track soon. Not worried

Yeah even elite shooters go through a slump. I don’t think Mikal is an elite shooter especially with the changes he’s made to his shooting form. He was struggling shooting even in the early part of the season. There is an inconsistency in his shot that he looks like he’s still working on fixing.

is it gonna be a season long thing? it’s weird af how his form is constantly changing from 3 point range.. makes no sense for a pro athlete

Why’s his form changing at 28 years old, should have been done years ago. He’s entering his prime

[snadler]

I get it these last 5 games have been frustrating, but man some people on here expect this **** to be easy and for the knicks to win 70 games, it’s like people forget how bad it was around here for years. I get expectations and rightfully so are high as they should be, but this takes time. Nothing is Meant to be easy, the knicks have flaws no doubt, but this sky is falling nonsense is ridiculous. Also, people need to understand Leon is NOT FIRING thibs based on 5 games while the team sits 11 games over .500 and 3rd in the east. Also, if you think thibs and leon who have literally completely turned this franchise around don’t know this team needs more depth that you are being foolish. Let me remind everyone nobody is winning a title in january, the key is to be healthy and playing your best ball in may, whatever you do in January despite how much importance people want to put on last night will mean NOTHING when round 1 of playoffs begin. Have some patience, this was not going to be a cake walk, thibs and leon know/knew this. Stop with the overreactions

[HEZI]

Shooters get cold, that’s all it is. Minutes have no bearing on this game at all.

We will get back on track soon. Not worried

Yeah even elite shooters go through a slump. I don’t think Mikal is an elite shooter especially with the changes he’s made to his shooting form. He was struggling shooting even in the early part of the season. There is an inconsistency in his shot that he looks like he’s still working on fixing.

is it gonna be a season long thing? it’s weird af how his form is constantly changing from 3 point range.. makes no sense for a pro athlete

It might because he is doing it in the middle of the season which is not a good sign. He was never comfortable with it coming into the season so it might take an offseason for him to really work on and correct it. Hoping that’s not the case but it is what it is

[Jalen Bluntson]

Shooters get cold, that’s all it is. Minutes have no bearing on this game at all.

We will get back on track soon. Not worried

I would agree but, injuries have also been a factor and seeing the team looking gassed also seems to be an issue. The minutes have been absurd the last month or so. We aren't getting anything from the bench either. As a team the three point shot has been half what it was prior to the last 3 weeks. It's more than just one bad game.

[The KnicksFix]

I get it these last 5 games have been frustrating, but man some people on here expect this **** to be easy and for the knicks to win 70 games, it’s like people forget how bad it was around here for years. I get expectations and rightfully so are high as they should be, but this takes time. Nothing is Meant to be easy, the knicks have flaws no doubt, but this sky is falling nonsense is ridiculous. Also, people need to understand Leon is NOT FIRING thibs based on 5 games while the team sits 11 games over .500 and 3rd in the east. Also, if you think thibs and leon who have literally completely turned this franchise around don’t know this team needs more depth that you are being foolish. Let me remind everyone nobody is winning a title in january, the key is to be healthy and playing your best ball in may, whatever you do in January despite how much importance people want to put on last night will mean NOTHING when round 1 of playoffs begin. Have some patience, this was not going to be a cake walk, thibs and leon know/knew this. Stop with the overreactions

Tf? Have you done any research? A simple three minute google search would show you, this is exactly the time where Thibs was shown the door at both Chicago and minny because he did the same thing there. Run the starters ragged. This isn’t no sky is falling bullchit. I seriously wonder how fans like you can watch this team and say “Thibs gonna figure it out”
Lmao tf?????

[Jalen Bluntson]

Yeah even elite shooters go through a slump. I don’t think Mikal is an elite shooter especially with the changes he’s made to his shooting form. He was struggling shooting even in the early part of the season. There is an inconsistency in his shot that he looks like he’s still working on fixing.

is it gonna be a season long thing? it’s weird af how his form is constantly changing from 3 point range.. makes no sense for a pro athlete

Why’s his form changing at 28 years old, should have been done years ago. He’s entering his prime

He's always had a weird form. He's always been a 37% career shooter from three. People talking about his form changing is just opinion.