Trades and Transactions Thread - 2025 Season Discussion

[KnixinSix]

But that means goodbye Towns at 4 unless Hukporti can elevate his game into a solid rotational player

Towns / Kessler / Hukporti
Anunoby / Okeke / Dadiet
Hart / TJ Warren / McCullar
Grimes / Sexton / Shamet
Brunson / Kolek / Payne

As much as I like Deuce I may have to do this. Esp with Kessler playing so well. Sexton would add a lot more scoring punch and motivated to play defense. Toughhhhhh to lose Deuce tho.

Just how big is the delta between Sextons D and McBrides D?

Kessler is CBA by the way

I feel like the delta is too big and this team doesn't need any more scoring. They have PLENTY. It would be much harder to replace McBrides D than the benefit of Sextons offense.

Kessler for some combination of Kolek,Dadiet, 2030 1st round pick, or any other 1st round pick, Hukporti. There is MOST definitely enough juice in that collection of assets to get a deal done.

Kolek has definitely raised some eyebrows around ths league. Ainge a former guard can very likely see it too. They like Dadiet and brought him in for a workout.

Kolek, Dadiet and a 1st round pick is definitely enough for Kessler. Forget Sexton we don't need him.

[KnixinSix]

As much as I like Deuce I may have to do this. Esp with Kessler playing so well. Sexton would add a lot more scoring punch and motivated to play defense. Toughhhhhh to lose Deuce tho.

Just how big is the delta between Sextons D and McBrides D?

Kessler is CBA by the way

Watch Utah. Sexton tries on defense but he literally dominates every game for them. He’s in the middle of every action and he’s rock-solid as well as efficient. Just turned 26.

We dont need him though , offense is the LAST thing we need and he definitely wouldnt be getting 30 minutes a game with our 5 starters.

[VirginiaKnickFan]

As much as I like Deuce I may have to do this. Esp with Kessler playing so well. Sexton would add a lot more scoring punch and motivated to play defense. Toughhhhhh to lose Deuce tho.

Just how big is the delta between Sextons D and McBrides D?

Kessler is CBA by the way

I feel like the delta is too big and this team doesn't need any more scoring. They have PLENTY. It would be much harder to replace McBrides D than the benefit of Sextons offense.

Kessler for some combination of Kolek,Dadiet, 2030 1st round pick, or any other 1st round pick, Hukporti. There is MOST definitely enough juice in that collection of assets to get a deal done.

Kolek has definitely raised some eyebrows around ths league. Ainge a former guard can very likely see it too. They like Dadiet and brought him in for a workout.

Kolek, Dadiet and 1st round pickis definitely enough for Kessler. Forget Sexton we don't need him.

I guessed you missed from Mark Stein yesterday. Forget Kessler, that's not happening.

NBA insider Marc Stein reported that Kessler, “is believed to [be] as close to unavailable as it gets with less than 10 days to go before the trade deadline.”

[KnixinSix]

Just how big is the delta between Sextons D and McBrides D?

Kessler is CBA by the way

I feel like the delta is too big and this team doesn't need any more scoring. They have PLENTY. It would be much harder to replace McBrides D than the benefit of Sextons offense.

Kessler for some combination of Kolek,Dadiet, 2030 1st round pick, or any other 1st round pick, Hukporti. There is MOST definitely enough juice in that collection of assets to get a deal done.

Kolek has definitely raised some eyebrows around ths league. Ainge a former guard can very likely see it too. They like Dadiet and brought him in for a workout.

Kolek, Dadiet and 1st round pickis definitely enough for Kessler. Forget Sexton we don't need him.

I guessed you miss from Mark Stein yesterday. Forget Kessler, that's not happening.

NBA insider Marc Stein reported that Kessler, “is believed to [be] as close to unavailable as it gets with less than 10 days to go before the trade deadline.”

Eh, we heard similar negative reports about OG, Bridges and KAT not happening too.

[VirginiaKnickFan]

I feel like the delta is too big and this team doesn't need any more scoring. They have PLENTY. It would be much harder to replace McBrides D than the benefit of Sextons offense.

Kessler for some combination of Kolek,Dadiet, 2030 1st round pick, or any other 1st round pick, Hukporti. There is MOST definitely enough juice in that collection of assets to get a deal done.

Kolek has definitely raised some eyebrows around ths league. Ainge a former guard can very likely see it too. They like Dadiet and brought him in for a workout.

Kolek, Dadiet and 1st round pickis definitely enough for Kessler. Forget Sexton we don't need him.

I guessed you miss from Mark Stein yesterday. Forget Kessler, that's not happening.

NBA insider Marc Stein reported that Kessler, “is believed to [be] as close to unavailable as it gets with less than 10 days to go before the trade deadline.”

Eh, we heard similar negative reports about OG, Bridges and KAT not happening too.

They didn't have to deal with Ainge now did they.

[KnixinSix]

I guessed you miss from Mark Stein yesterday. Forget Kessler, that's not happening.

Eh, we heard similar negative reports about OG, Bridges and KAT not happening too.

They didn't have to deal with Ainge now did they.

True but....
Ainge is not stupid and Kolek, Dadiet and 1st round pick is definitely enough for Kessler and maybe even an overpay.

[Richard4444]

I think the eye test from last year's Pacers series is enough for me to overlook any advanced analytics on what Turner's on-court impact could be.

I would contest with what would that on court impact have looked like had we had Mitch pounding the offensive glass or Randle's constant attacks or OG fully healthy?

Knicks looked very likely to win the series before OG went down.

Again, not saying Turner is a bad player. He isn't. I just don't know exactly if what he would currently add to this team is worth

A) The price
B) The fundamental change it would make to our team. Mainly no more or very limited KAT at the 5 minutes and Hart to the bench.

I wouldn't be completely against it but the FO would have to be sure this would help make us true title contenders.

Many ppl forget to factor in the new CBA and slary matching when they throw out these ideas. Turner is at 19.9

That will take either Mitch (14.3) + McBride (4.7) + 1 mill filler OR Both Mitch + Achiuwa (6M) as the main salary pieces of the deal.

I guess its possible but I doubt they would give up 3 years of McBride and 2 years of Mitch for Turner. Maybe the 2nd deal though.

Turner is a great name. He can defend in the paint while being in the perimeter when attacking letting KAT play freely.

Probably, we would have to deal Mitch + Deuce + Precious to make the math work because we need 14 players on the roster.
Mitch 14,3 + Deuce 4,7 + Precious 6 = 25M (plus every pick we have)
Turner 19,9M + JavGreen (NO) 2,1 + Another min deal 2,1 = 24,1. Then we could use the extra 0,9M (plus 0,5M we have left) to get another pro rata min deal for the 15th spot (Okeke or TJ).

But I think Indiana can get better offers for Turner.

EDIT: Besides, If we do not want to be a second-apron team next season, it is better to give up on him.

[KnixinSix]

I would contest with what would that on court impact have looked like had we had Mitch pounding the offensive glass or Randle's constant attacks or OG fully healthy?

Knicks looked very likely to win the series before OG went down.

Again, not saying Turner is a bad player. He isn't. I just don't know exactly if what he would currently add to this team is worth

A) The price
B) The fundamental change it would make to our team. Mainly no more or very limited KAT at the 5 minutes and Hart to the bench.

I wouldn't be completely against it but the FO would have to be sure this would help make us true title contenders.

Many ppl forget to factor in the new CBA and slary matching when they throw out these ideas. Turner is at 19.9

That will take either Mitch (14.3) + McBride (4.7) + 1 mill filler OR Both Mitch + Achiuwa (6M) as the main salary pieces of the deal.

I guess its possible but I doubt they would give up 3 years of McBride and 2 years of Mitch for Turner. Maybe the 2nd deal though.

Probably, we would have to deal Mitch + Deuce + Precious to make the math worth because we need 14 players on the roster.
Mitch 14,3 + Deuce 4,7 + Precious 6 = 25M (plus every pick we have)
Turner 19,9M + JavGreen (NO) 2,1 + Another min deal 2,1 = 24,1. We could use the extra 0,9 to get another pro rata min deal (Okeke or TJ).

But I think Indiana can get better offers for Turner.

You give up a lot of future years of McBride in that deal and both our defending bigs for one back. I think I'd prefer Kessler while keeping all 3 of Mitch McBride and Achiuwa

[VirginiaKnickFan]

Eh, we heard similar negative reports about OG, Bridges and KAT not happening too.

They didn't have to deal with Ainge now did they.

True but....
Ainge is not stupid and Kolek, Dadiet and 1st round pick is definitely enough for Kessler and maybe even an overpay.

Umm...Ainge is asking for 2 #1 picks, plus players. It's not happening...book it.

[KnixinSix]

I would contest with what would that on court impact have looked like had we had Mitch pounding the offensive glass or Randle's constant attacks or OG fully healthy?

Knicks looked very likely to win the series before OG went down.

Again, not saying Turner is a bad player. He isn't. I just don't know exactly if what he would currently add to this team is worth

A) The price
B) The fundamental change it would make to our team. Mainly no more or very limited KAT at the 5 minutes and Hart to the bench.

I wouldn't be completely against it but the FO would have to be sure this would help make us true title contenders.

Many ppl forget to factor in the new CBA and slary matching when they throw out these ideas. Turner is at 19.9

That will take either Mitch (14.3) + McBride (4.7) + 1 mill filler OR Both Mitch + Achiuwa (6M) as the main salary pieces of the deal.

I guess its possible but I doubt they would give up 3 years of McBride and 2 years of Mitch for Turner. Maybe the 2nd deal though.

Turner is a great name. He can defend in the paint while being in the perimeter when attacking letting KAT play freely.

Probably, we would have to deal Mitch + Deuce + Precious to make the math work because we need 14 players on the roster.
Mitch 14,3 + Deuce 4,7 + Precious 6 = 25M (plus every pick we have)
Turner 19,9M + JavGreen (NO) 2,1 + Another min deal 2,1 = 24,1. Then we could use the extra 0,9M (plus 0,5M we have left) to get another pro rata min deal for the 15th spot (Okeke or TJ).

But I think Indiana can get better offers for Turner.

Now if you can get their backup point Nembhard that would make it interesting.

He makes 2M this year but signed a 3 year 55M extension after.

So Turner (19.9) + Nembhard (2.1)= 22M

Mitchell Robinson (14.3)+ McBride (4.7)+ Kolek (2.1M)+ Dadiet (1.8M)= 22.9M

Add an 2 1st round picks , and 3 2RPs.

Would it be enough? I dont know but Nembhard is a very nice ballhandling role player with some size and defense in the backcourt

[KnixinSix]

They didn't have to deal with Ainge now did they.

True but....
Ainge is not stupid and Kolek, Dadiet and 1st round pick is definitely enough for Kessler and maybe even an overpay.

Umm...Ainge is asking for 2 #1 picks, plus players. It's not happening...book it.

I believe you told us KAT Bridge and OG were not happening 'book it' either....

[Richard4444]

They didn't have to deal with Ainge now did they.

True but....
Ainge is not stupid and Kolek, Dadiet and 1st round pick is definitely enough for Kessler and maybe even an overpay.

Umm...Ainge is asking for 2 #1 picks, plus players. It's not happening...book it.

Kessler can't play on the perimeter. Playing Kessler, we would be forced to keep KAT in the perimeter where he does not have the same impact in the game.

Knowing Thibs, the odds that we would bury Kessler in the bench are high. He can not adapt and he does not have patience. Between MVP KAT and a solid rim protector, he would choose the first and would play Kessler only when KAT rests.

Besides, we do not have enough assets to get Kessler without giving Deuce in the deal. Dadiet has no value. Kolek has limited value due to his small size. Our picks are awful. Ainge does not have to sell him now. And if he does, he can get better offers.

[KnixinSix]

True but....
Ainge is not stupid and Kolek, Dadiet and 1st round pickis definitely enough for Kessler and maybe even an overpay.

Umm...Ainge is asking for 2 #1 picks, plus players. It's not happening...book it.

Kessler can't play on the perimeter. Playing Kessler, we would be forced to keep KAT in the perimeter where he does not have the same impact in the game.

Knowing Thibs, the odds that we would bury Kessler in the bench are high. He can not adapt and he does not have patience. Between MVP KAT and a solid rim protector, he would choose the first and would play Kessler only when KAT rests.

Besides, we do not have enough assets to get Kessler without giving Deuce in the deal. Dadiet has no value. Kolek has limited value due to his small size. Our picks are awful. Ainge does not have to sell him now. And if he does, he can get better offers.

Mitch mainly played inside. With KAT Kessler is only playing 23-25 minutes at the 5 with KAT playing the rest. He provides that elite rim protector that Thibs LOVES to utilize for certain matchups.

Kolek, Dadiet and 1st round pick is enough. I think you severely underrate the projections on these 2 players esp Kolek. Further Kessler is a role player big... he isnt some great player that is going to command a huge package to get.

[Richard4444]

Eh, we heard similar negative reports about OG, Bridges and KAT not happening too.

They didn't have to deal with Ainge now did they.

True but....
Ainge is not stupid and Kolek, Dadiet and 1st round pick is definitely enough for Kessler and maybe even an overpay.

I would be surprised if that is the price.

Dadiet trade value is almost zero. He is a salary filler right now. His G league numbers are awful and he does not have any great skill. He only has potential because he has a great size, mobility, and a good shooting touch. He reminds Knox at his age.

Kolek is a great GLeague player. But we do not know his impact on the NBA. Players with his size are always a question mark. His draft position was not an accident. I think his trade value is not very high. Maybe a late first right now.

We do not have firsts anymore. I will be surprised if the Was pick conveys one day. No team will bet this pick will convey.

[KnixinSix]

They didn't have to deal with Ainge now did they.

True but....
Ainge is not stupid and Kolek, Dadiet and 1st round pick is definitely enough for Kessler and maybe even an overpay.

I would be surprised if it's the price.

Dadiet trade value is almost zero. He is a salary filler right now. His G league numbers are awful and he does not have any great skill. He only has potential because he has a great size, mobility, and a good shooting touch. He reminds Knox at his age.

Kolek is a great GLeague player. But we do not know his impact on the NBA. Players with his size are always a question mark. His draft position was not an accident. I think his trade value is not very high. Maybe a late first right now.

We do not have firsts anymore. I will be surprised if the Was pick conveys one day. No team will bet this pick will convey.

We have a few firsts and the 2030 first is considered valuable.

You are severely underrating Kolek who has shown absolutely high NBA court vision and elite passing already.

Dadiet is developmental but Utah liked him and brought him in for a workout.

I dont think some team is going to blow our offer out of the water for a Walker Kessler. We have a greater need for the role he provides than other teams too.

[VirginiaKnickFan]

Umm...Ainge is asking for 2 #1 picks, plus players. It's not happening...book it.

Kessler can't play on the perimeter. Playing Kessler, we would be forced to keep KAT in the perimeter where he does not have the same impact in the game.

Knowing Thibs, the odds that we would bury Kessler in the bench are high. He can not adapt and he does not have patience. Between MVP KAT and a solid rim protector, he would choose the first and would play Kessler only when KAT rests.

Besides, we do not have enough assets to get Kessler without giving Deuce in the deal. Dadiet has no value. Kolek has limited value due to his small size. Our picks are awful. Ainge does not have to sell him now. And if he does, he can get better offers.

Mitch mainly played inside. With KAT Kessler is only playing 23-25 minutes at the 5 with KAT playing the rest. He provides that elite rim protector that Thibs LOVES to utilize for certain matchups.

Kolek, Dadiet and 1st round pick is enough. I think you severely underrate the projections on these 2 players esp Kolek. Further Kessler is a role player big... he isnt some great player that is going to command a huge package to get.

Two things wrong with that assumption, the first he's playing better this year, and the second AINGE. Even Shams said Utah's not budging on Kessler's ask, with over 20 teams inquiring, and they all come away with the "he's not actually available" due to Ainge's asking price. Turner is more likely available in trade than Kessler ever will be.

[KnixinSix]

Kessler can't play on the perimeter. Playing Kessler, we would be forced to keep KAT in the perimeter where he does not have the same impact in the game.

Knowing Thibs, the odds that we would bury Kessler in the bench are high. He can not adapt and he does not have patience. Between MVP KAT and a solid rim protector, he would choose the first and would play Kessler only when KAT rests.

Besides, we do not have enough assets to get Kessler without giving Deuce in the deal. Dadiet has no value. Kolek has limited value due to his small size. Our picks are awful. Ainge does not have to sell him now. And if he does, he can get better offers.

Mitch mainly played inside. With KAT Kessler is only playing 23-25 minutes at the 5 with KAT playing the rest. He provides that elite rim protector that Thibs LOVES to utilize for certain matchups.

Kolek, Dadiet and 1st round pick is enough. I think you severely underrate the projections on these 2 players esp Kolek. Further Kessler is a role player big... he isnt some great player that is going to command a huge package to get.

Two things wrong with that assumption, the first he's playing better this year, and the second AINGE. Even Shams said Utah's not budging on Kessler's ask, with over 20 teams inquiring, and they all come away with the "he's not actually available" due to Ainge's asking price. Turner is more likely available in trade than Kessler ever will be.

Ainge is doing his job which is leveraging the media to maximize his trade value. Guess we will see what happens. Kessler is CAA too.

I of course am not garanteeing ti happens as with any trade so much has to fall in place for it to happen but to guarantee it won't is not a correct stance either

[Richard4444]

True but....
Ainge is not stupid and Kolek, Dadiet and 1st round pick is definitely enough for Kessler and maybe even an overpay.

I would be surprised if it's the price.

Dadiet trade value is almost zero. He is a salary filler right now. His G league numbers are awful and he does not have any great skill. He only has potential because he has a great size, mobility, and a good shooting touch. He reminds Knox at his age.

Kolek is a great GLeague player. But we do not know his impact on the NBA. Players with his size are always a question mark. His draft position was not an accident. I think his trade value is not very high. Maybe a late first right now.

We do not have firsts anymore. I will be surprised if the Was pick conveys one day. No team will bet this pick will convey.

We have a few firsts and the 2030 first is considered valuable.

You are severely underrating Kolek who has shown absolutely high NBA court vision and elite passing already.

Dadiet is developmental but Utah liked him and brought him in for a workout.

I dont think some team is going to blow our offer out of the water for a Walker Kessler. We have a greater need for the role he provides than other teams too.

We can't trade 2030 first. Only swap it.

We have only Was fist pick to trade. If it does not convey next season, it will become 2 seconds in 2027 draft, the second and third better second from OKC, Houston, Miami and Indiana). It probably will be 45th and 55th pick in the 2027 draft.
https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/team


Utah brought Dadiet to a workout to see if he was worth a second round. Now, he showed everybody he is still very raw shooting 39/25/79, and 2,6 TOs for a wing at the G league. Utah should rather take their chances with another rookie in the next draft. We must keep him because he has guaranteed money.

Kolek is a excellent Gleague player. But he has a small frame. You need to be truly special to be a rotational NBA player of his size. It is not proven. Besides, you can not have many small players on the roster because they are not as dynamic as wings. Even considering Clarkson and Sexton are almost gone, the Jazz already have Colier and George as PGs for the future. I am not so sure if they have room for another small PG. Perhaps, we would need a third team. Besides, in every draft, there are a lot of small PGs to choose from.

Teams such as the Lakers are looking for a big.

[Richard4444]

Many ppl forget to factor in the new CBA and slary matching when they throw out these ideas. Turner is at 19.9

That will take either Mitch (14.3) + McBride (4.7) + 1 mill filler OR Both Mitch + Achiuwa (6M) as the main salary pieces of the deal.

I guess its possible but I doubt they would give up 3 years of McBride and 2 years of Mitch for Turner. Maybe the 2nd deal though.

Turner is a great name. He can defend in the paint while being in the perimeter when attacking letting KAT play freely.

Probably, we would have to deal Mitch + Deuce + Precious to make the math work because we need 14 players on the roster.
Mitch 14,3 + Deuce 4,7 + Precious 6 = 25M (plus every pick we have)
Turner 19,9M + JavGreen (NO) 2,1 + Another min deal 2,1 = 24,1. Then we could use the extra 0,9M (plus 0,5M we have left) to get another pro rata min deal for the 15th spot (Okeke or TJ).

But I think Indiana can get better offers for Turner.

Now if you can get their backup point Nembhard that would make it interesting.

He makes 2M this year but signed a 3 year 55M extension after.

So Turner (19.9) + Nembhard (2.1)= 22M

Mitchell Robinson (14.3)+ McBride (4.7)+ Kolek (2.1M)+ Dadiet (1.8M)= 22.9M

Add an 2 1st round picks , and 3 2RPs.

Would it be enough? I dont know but Nembhard is a very nice ballhandling role player with some size and defense in the backcourt

Indiana loves Nembhard. It would cost a fortune to be moved. Besides he is on a poison pill. It would be mathematically impossible to get him along with Turner without giving a core piece.

[KnixinSix]

I would be surprised if it's the price.

Dadiet trade value is almost zero. He is a salary filler right now. His G league numbers are awful and he does not have any great skill. He only has potential because he has a great size, mobility, and a good shooting touch. He reminds Knox at his age.

Kolek is a great GLeague player. But we do not know his impact on the NBA. Players with his size are always a question mark. His draft position was not an accident. I think his trade value is not very high. Maybe a late first right now.

We do not have firsts anymore. I will be surprised if the Was pick conveys one day. No team will bet this pick will convey.

We have a few firsts and the 2030 first is considered valuable.

You are severely underrating Kolek who has shown absolutely high NBA court vision and elite passing already.

Dadiet is developmental but Utah liked him and brought him in for a workout.

I dont think some team is going to blow our offer out of the water for a Walker Kessler. We have a greater need for the role he provides than other teams too.

We can't trade 2030 first. Only swap it.

We have only Was fist pick to trade. If it does not convey next season, it will become 2 seconds in 2027 draft, the second and third better second from OKC, Houston, Miami and Indiana). It probably will be 45th and 55th pick in the 2027 draft.
https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/team


Utah brought Dadiet to a workout to see if he was worth a second round. Now, he showed everybody he is still very raw shooting 39/25/79, and 2,6 TOs for a wing at the G league. Utah should rather take their chances with another rookie in the next draft. We must keep him because he has guaranteed money.

Kolek is a excellent Gleague player. But he has a small frame. You need to be truly special to be a rotational NBA player of his size. It is not proven. Besides, you can not have many small players on the roster because they are not as dynamic as wings. Even considering Clarkson and Sexton are almost gone, the Jazz already have Colier and George as PGs for the future. I am not so sure if they have room for another small PG. Perhaps, we would need a third team. Besides, in every draft, there are a lot of small PGs to choose from.

Teams such as the Lakers are looking for a big.

Swap on 2030 when Knicks are outside their core player contract windows has value. I get some of the points you are making but are the Lakers a Klutch team going to blow our offer out of the water for a CAA client?