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Re: PG: Knicks vs. Celtics: At least that 3rd quarter was encouraging... 

Post#261 » by mpharris36 » Mon Feb 24, 2025 1:28 am

Jeffrey wrote:Maybe its best to put Mitch as the starting 5 and Mikal goes to the bench. I wouldn't have done this at the start of the season because I was concern about Hart's offense. Thibs need a rim protector in his lineup and it seems that his defense can't evolve without it.

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Mitch would really limt Hart's effectiveness with the starting unit. You might as well bring Hart off the bench at that point if you are dead set on starting Mitch.

The bigger question remains...how can you trust Mitch to handle starters minutes...I answer that...you can't!
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Post#262 » by G_K_F » Mon Feb 24, 2025 1:42 am

“We’re not trying to close a gap with the Boston Celtics,” Hart said. “They’re the champs for a reason. They got All-NBA guys, they got All-Stars, they got a heck of a team.

“So we’re not trying to close the gap on them. We’re trying to make sure we get ourselves to where we need to be at the end of the year, and right now, we’re not there.”


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Re: PG: Knicks vs. Celtics: At least that 3rd quarter was encouraging... 

Post#263 » by JayTWill » Mon Feb 24, 2025 1:45 am

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Not sure the Knicks go for Brunson if they get Mitchell which I think was his point.


I don't think he is referencing that, or at least I hope he isn't. Brunson is better than Mitchell.

They're pretty much the same caliber of player.

Mitchell's a better defender than Brunson. Our captain tries but he's one of the worst defenders in the league.

Just because Brunson outplayed him in one playoff series doesn't mean he's fundamentally the better player.

In your earlier post I think you failed to mention the uptick in offense that would come with pairing Brunson and Mitchell, as if the defense would get worse but the offense would remain stable. With Mitchell, you're injecting HOF-level, All-NBA-level production into the offense.

The Cavs have a small backcourt yet they are managing just fine with their defensive frontcourt by the way. They would have had quite a bit of success with iHart, Mitch and OG. iHart's departure would have hurt us, just like it did this past summer.


How do you imagine the offense would have looked pairing Mitchell with a player as ball dominant as Brunson in Thibs offense? Garland even before Mitchell's arrival didn't control the ball as much Brunson has the last few years. I feel like people expected pairing Brunson with KAT would make the offense unstoppable but it hasn't been impressive against the better teams.
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Re: PG: Knicks vs. Celtics: At least that 3rd quarter was encouraging... 

Post#264 » by Kidknick! » Mon Feb 24, 2025 1:45 am

Let this season play out. Then correct the MISTAKE of NOT putting J. Bryant in charge of this ship.
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Post#265 » by Capn'O » Mon Feb 24, 2025 1:46 am

There was a period at the end of our run and when the tide turned back where the C's went with a 2 big front. Kornet of all people just abused us on the O glass and that run of second chance opportunities pretty much killed our momentum. So, first Kornet/Horford and then KP/Horford IIRC. We just couldn't get the ball, which is not a winning strategy and then you had Hart trying to match Kornet in the restricted area.

I know it's Thibs but I was absolutely stunned we didn't put Huk in to counter. Having a strong backline and controlling the boards is like Thibs 101 and he didn't do it.


Also, it's wild to see Kornet playing so well. I never thought he could become a rotation player on a contender.
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Post#266 » by Adelheid » Mon Feb 24, 2025 1:48 am

dont worry fellas...we will win some more when the season is not yet over. the team is designed to be a regular season beater and lets just accept it for what it is
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Post#268 » by Adelheid » Mon Feb 24, 2025 1:53 am

Capn'O wrote:There was a period at the end of our run and when the tide turned back where the C's went with a 2 big front. Kornet of all people just abused us on the O glass and that run of second chance opportunities pretty much killed our momentum. So, first Kornet/Horford and then KP/Horford IIRC. We just couldn't get the ball, which is not a winning strategy and then you had Hart trying to match Kornet in the restricted area.

I know it's Thibs but I was absolutely stunned we didn't put Huk in to counter. Having a strong backline and controlling the boards is like Thibs 101 and he didn't do it.


Also, it's wild to see Kornet playing so well. I never thought he could become a rotation player on a contender.


they gave him opportunity, cap'...the knicks and its fanbase dont give opportunities like that. If you suck the initial times they put you in on the court, you get yanked and to the thibs doghouse and the fanbase immediately screams you be traded.
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Post#269 » by Adelheid » Mon Feb 24, 2025 2:03 am

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“We’re not trying to close a gap with the Boston Celtics,” Hart said. “They’re the champs for a reason. They got All-NBA guys, they got All-Stars, they got a heck of a team.

“So we’re not trying to close the gap on them. We’re trying to make sure we get ourselves to where we need to be at the end of the year, and right now, we’re not there.”


Hart is starting to become annoying with these lame takes.


i suppose his statement could be shortened to "We are not trying" :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post#270 » by Capn'O » Mon Feb 24, 2025 2:03 am

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Capn'O wrote:There was a period at the end of our run and when the tide turned back where the C's went with a 2 big front. Kornet of all people just abused us on the O glass and that run of second chance opportunities pretty much killed our momentum. So, first Kornet/Horford and then KP/Horford IIRC. We just couldn't get the ball, which is not a winning strategy and then you had Hart trying to match Kornet in the restricted area.

I know it's Thibs but I was absolutely stunned we didn't put Huk in to counter. Having a strong backline and controlling the boards is like Thibs 101 and he didn't do it.


Also, it's wild to see Kornet playing so well. I never thought he could become a rotation player on a contender.


they gave him opportunity, cap'...the knicks and its fanbase dont give opportunities like that. If you suck the initial times they put you in on the court, you get yanked and to the thibs doghouse and the fanbase immediately screams you be traded.


I know but... Huk's been good lately :dontknow:
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Re: PG: Knicks vs. Celtics: At least that 3rd quarter was encouraging... 

Post#271 » by Adelheid » Mon Feb 24, 2025 2:04 am

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Capn'O wrote:There was a period at the end of our run and when the tide turned back where the C's went with a 2 big front. Kornet of all people just abused us on the O glass and that run of second chance opportunities pretty much killed our momentum. So, first Kornet/Horford and then KP/Horford IIRC. We just couldn't get the ball, which is not a winning strategy and then you had Hart trying to match Kornet in the restricted area.

I know it's Thibs but I was absolutely stunned we didn't put Huk in to counter. Having a strong backline and controlling the boards is like Thibs 101 and he didn't do it.


Also, it's wild to see Kornet playing so well. I never thought he could become a rotation player on a contender.


they gave him opportunity, cap'...the knicks and its fanbase dont give opportunities like that. If you suck the initial times they put you in on the court, you get yanked and to the thibs doghouse and the fanbase immediately screams you be traded.


I know but... Huk's been good lately :dontknow:


hey look man, im on the huk bandwagon but what can be done if he isnt played much at all?
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Post#272 » by matchman » Mon Feb 24, 2025 2:05 am

Seems like I should be glad that I don't stay at night to watch this 2am game in my timezone.

But is it worth to watch the full game?
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Post#273 » by Capn'O » Mon Feb 24, 2025 2:08 am

Getting Mitch back isn't a guarantee that we'll go on a run or anything. It's a necessary look at the rest of the players on this roster with a classic rim protector.
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Post#274 » by matchman » Mon Feb 24, 2025 2:08 am

And I know a lot can be said about our coach, but even though I am pessimistic about this too, I will give him this playoff before we pull the trigger (to find replacement).

However expectations will be lowered, I want a competitive 2nd round regardless of results and our roster healthiness. If that was not achieved then yeah let's try a different coach.
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Post#275 » by Capn'O » Mon Feb 24, 2025 2:09 am

Adelheid wrote:
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they gave him opportunity, cap'...the knicks and its fanbase dont give opportunities like that. If you suck the initial times they put you in on the court, you get yanked and to the thibs doghouse and the fanbase immediately screams you be traded.


I know but... Huk's been good lately :dontknow:


hey look man, im on the huk bandwagon but what can be done if he isnt played much at all?


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Post#276 » by HarthorneWingo » Mon Feb 24, 2025 2:10 am

The worst part of this game for me - other than the final score - was watching KP and Kornet out on the court together.
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Post#277 » by Butch718 » Mon Feb 24, 2025 2:10 am

Eddie House is right. Knick fans have deluded themselves into thinking that Mitch is going to be a savior. He helps, but he’s not going to solve the bull coverages that Thibs keeps running out there.

I honestly think that they need go be fully embarrassed by the Celtics or Cavs or another team before Rose even considers firing Thibs.
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Post#278 » by matchman » Mon Feb 24, 2025 2:10 am

Capn'O wrote:Getting Mitch back isn't a guarantee that we'll go on a run or anything. It's a necessary look at the rest of the players on this roster with a classic rim protector.

Never count on uncertainty, if no one knows how many Mitch will be able to play despite he's some posters' darling or hope. I would assume a playoff without him.
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Post#279 » by 3toheadmelo » Mon Feb 24, 2025 2:13 am

Missing on Donovan Mitchell was a massive blunder
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Post#280 » by HarthorneWingo » Mon Feb 24, 2025 2:17 am

3toheadmelo wrote:Missing on Donovan Mitchell was a massive blunder

He and Brunson don’t make the best backcourt tandem defensively
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