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Re: PG: that sucked 

Post#261 » by Iron Mantis » Tue Apr 22, 2025 11:31 am

R-DAWG wrote:Rotation should look like:

C: Robinson (25), Towns (12), Precious (11)
PF: Towns (26), Hart (22)
SF: Anunoby (35), Hart (8), Bridges (5)
SG: Bridges (30), McBride (18)
PG: Brunson (35), Payne (13)

9 man rotation. No starter plays more than 35 minutes on average. McBride gets 18 min off the bench, Hart 30, Payne 13 and Precious 11. Mitch replaces Hart in the starting lineup, the way this team was originally designed.


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Re: PG: that sucked 

Post#262 » by Wildcat » Tue Apr 22, 2025 11:35 am

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What's his excuse for not going Mitch/KAT when you're getting killed on the glass?
What's his excuse for persistently going for ISO?
What's his excuse for icing out KAT?
What's his excuse for icing out Bridges?
What's his excuse benching Payne just because he had a couple of imperfect minutes?
What's his excuse for playing Hart while getting killed on the boards?

This team can't always rely on effort plays on both sides of the court. This coach needs to do a better job at making things easier. Hart had a decent 4th, but quarters 1 THRU 3 basically allowed his man to free roam.
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Re: PG: that sucked 

Post#263 » by Wildcat » Tue Apr 22, 2025 11:36 am

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Somebody on the GB called Thibs the valedictorian of the class of coaches that make teams better but can't get them over the hump. It's pretty apt.

This is his last shot to prove differently and the sand is running out.


I would love to know what he does besides tell players play hard or you'll sit. When he put Kat at center, the talk was about how we are going to utilize one of the best three point shooters in the league by running a 5 out offense....it was the whole point of him being at center.....instead we are running this read and react, street ball offense which lead to him taking two three pointers tonight.

Thibs is a guy who can maximize athletic, defensive players who need minutes, structure and discipline, let them go out there, run around and do what they do, and lock it up on defense. Give him some talent that play a tick less hard because they have to carry his nonexistent offense, and he's lost, because now the adjustments are to be made on offense, which he's clueless of. It's the whole reason why he runs this nonsense and lets players do whatever they want to do.

He's maxed out, we seriously need someone young with fresh ideas and ways to utilize the talent on this team. No retreads. It's frustrating to watch other teams run modern offenses while we are stuck in the stone age.


mike malone = rethread
most hc in the nba are just like above

johnnie bryant could be the next man up


Bryant was the Thibs Whisperer. I'm convince of this. Because '24 Thibs and '25 Thibs are virtually different coaches.
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Re: PG: that sucked 

Post#264 » by CyKnickal » Tue Apr 22, 2025 11:46 am

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They were out rebounded by 14. It was legitimately an issue for a majority of the game.


So why didn't Mitch play more?????? He was the only + tonight, our best paint protector and rebounder. Just his presence keeps Cade beyond the free throw line. He could've even given him the 10 **** points Hart did in 40 plus minutes.

This doofus had the solution and he's sitting there telling us wtf the problem was. He has three players playing out of position so he can shoe horn his favorite into the starting lineup, someone who can't even help them play a 5 out offense to utilize Kat correctly, which should be the sole purpose of him even being in there, and he's wondering about rebounds.

This cock sucker needs to understand that there is no point in playing Kat at center now that Mitch is available if Kat isn't allowed to bomb away from three and utilized in the offense more. If defense is needed because the offense isn't clicking, ADJUST mother ****.

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Re: PG: that sucked 

Post#265 » by Spree2Houston » Tue Apr 22, 2025 11:48 am

lol this team is soft. I’ve told you for a while! They’re timid, don’t stand up to bullies and lay down easily. Detroit is playing physical and Knicks are laying down. This is not a talent issue. It’s a grown-man team getting punked by a bunch of kids. Team is mentally and physically soft.
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Re: PG: that sucked 

Post#266 » by Bob Ross » Tue Apr 22, 2025 12:09 pm

They have no offensive identity at all. Not anything good or effective anyway. They looked like it was their first time playing together and has for the entire month
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Post#267 » by 3toheadmelo » Tue Apr 22, 2025 12:13 pm

We should beating these guys in 5 games at worst. This pistons roster is like if guan0 was the GM.
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Re: PG: that sucked 

Post#268 » by DaGawd » Tue Apr 22, 2025 12:16 pm

**** this team
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Re: PG: that sucked 

Post#269 » by prophet_of_rage » Tue Apr 22, 2025 12:19 pm

Bob Ross wrote:They have no offensive identity at all. Not anything good or effective anyway. They looked like it was their first time playing together and has for the entire month
They do ... iso Brunson.

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Re: PG: that sucked 

Post#270 » by god shammgod » Tue Apr 22, 2025 12:21 pm

prophet_of_rage wrote:
Bob Ross wrote:They have no offensive identity at all. Not anything good or effective anyway. They looked like it was their first time playing together and has for the entire month
They do ... iso Brunson.

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it isn't new though. he has always played like this. but the knicks also could play defense and rebound better than most teams. now they can't. if people are mad about how jalen is playing they should have never liked him. because nothing has changed with him.
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Re: PG: that sucked 

Post#271 » by whocares1 » Tue Apr 22, 2025 12:31 pm

god shammgod wrote:
prophet_of_rage wrote:
Bob Ross wrote:They have no offensive identity at all. Not anything good or effective anyway. They looked like it was their first time playing together and has for the entire month
They do ... iso Brunson.

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it isn't new though. he has always played like this. but the knicks also could play defense and rebound better than most teams. now they can't. if people are mad about how jalen is playing they should have never liked him. because nothing has changed with him.


He is also the only one that can dribble the basketball when pressured. It’s easy to say “pass the ball” when the rest of the roster besides Payne knows two dribble moves and aren’t confident handling the basketball for more than 4 seconds.

That is one thing with Randle that we definitely miss. A secondary playmaker to give Brunson a breather, while also allowing him to play off ball more.
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Re: PG: that sucked 

Post#272 » by Handledatruth » Tue Apr 22, 2025 12:31 pm

Play Mitch more play Hart less and we'll win. Also put someone besides OG on Cade in spots and then crowd him with OG. Let OG guard him straight up in crunch time.
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Re: PG: that sucked 

Post#273 » by prophet_of_rage » Tue Apr 22, 2025 12:32 pm

god shammgod wrote:
prophet_of_rage wrote:
Bob Ross wrote:They have no offensive identity at all. Not anything good or effective anyway. They looked like it was their first time playing together and has for the entire month
They do ... iso Brunson.

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it isn't new though. he has always played like this. but the knicks also could play defense and rebound better than most teams. now they can't. if people are mad about how jalen is playing they should have never liked him. because nothing has changed with him.
I know. The dosage is too high. He isn't a main dish. And we had Julius to hate on last year. But JB is getting exposed on social/national media. Even CP the Fanchise is going at him.

They played faster in the first quarter but they went back to iso Brunson in the whole second half.

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Re: PG: that sucked 

Post#274 » by prophet_of_rage » Tue Apr 22, 2025 12:33 pm

whocares1 wrote:
god shammgod wrote:
prophet_of_rage wrote:They do ... iso Brunson.

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it isn't new though. he has always played like this. but the knicks also could play defense and rebound better than most teams. now they can't. if people are mad about how jalen is playing they should have never liked him. because nothing has changed with him.


He is also the only one that can dribble the basketball when pressured. It’s easy to say “pass the ball” when the rest of the roster besides Payne knows two dribble moves and aren’t confident handling the basketball for more than 4 seconds.

That is one thing with Randle that we definitely miss. A secondary playmaker to give Brunson a breather, while also allowing him to play off ball more.
Imdeed.

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Re: PG: that sucked 

Post#275 » by 3toheadmelo » Tue Apr 22, 2025 12:33 pm

god shammgod wrote:
prophet_of_rage wrote:
Bob Ross wrote:They have no offensive identity at all. Not anything good or effective anyway. They looked like it was their first time playing together and has for the entire month
They do ... iso Brunson.

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it isn't new though. he has always played like this. but the knicks also could play defense and rebound better than most teams. now they can't. if people are mad about how jalen is playing they should have never liked him. because nothing has changed with him.

Another thing is that we were spoiled with Randle’s playmaking and gravity. We had another creator that was generating tons of open looks. I think our priority this summer should be to replace Hart and also acquire another creator. If you have to trade KAT to get that creator then so be it.
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Re: PG: that sucked 

Post#276 » by prophet_of_rage » Tue Apr 22, 2025 12:42 pm

Brunson had the ball 11 minutes a game last year. He is at 10 minutes this year. And he gets over 100 touches a game. Josh Hart is second in touches with 69 touches per game. Total time of possession 3 minutes.

It is time to get JB off the ball, Thibs.

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Re: PG: that sucked 

Post#277 » by HEZI » Tue Apr 22, 2025 12:46 pm

We need a 2nd option on the perimeter. You can see the difference when OG has it going and can play the role of that guy but I’m not sure he can carry that load consistently. Last night he just didn’t have it on either end. Mikal stinks and we know Josh certainly isn’t that. There are plenty of opportunities for guys to get theirs but the roster is limited in abilities. They thought Mikal was that guy but he can’t take anybody off the dribble, can’t get to the basket on his own, picks up his dribble when he gets sealed off, lacks strength and can’t even do the one thing that we at least thought he could do and that shoot 3s. He had plenty of opportunities but he sucks so here we are
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Re: PG: that sucked 

Post#278 » by Enzo954 » Tue Apr 22, 2025 12:49 pm

I keep hearing how the team is soft and I'm kind of conflicted in that thought. That month while Brunson was out, I feel like we were gradually turning into a different team. The offense felt more fluid and grittier to me. Players stepped up and got the job done, including the bench. Now that JB is back, I get the vibe that others feel less included in the ISO heavy offense. When you have immense talent and you're not being utilized as such, it can be demoralizing over time. I'm not saying that we're better without JB, I'm simply stating that the supporting cast needs more touches and plays run for them. How in the hell does a guy like Kat get zero shots in the 4th quarter of a playoff game? Sure, he needs to be more vocal about it, but IMO that falls on Thibs.
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Re: PG: that sucked 

Post#279 » by TKKnicks1 » Tue Apr 22, 2025 12:52 pm

If you gonna do heavy ISO Brunson then just play him off guard and bring Payne or Kolek to be the point. At least this way you can have a secondary ball handler out there that can create for others while Brunson can just pound the damn ball into the floor.

Can't believe this same team at one point this season had a top 5 offense in the league. I thought historically Thibs coached teams were supposed to get better as the season progressed. This team has been the definition of regress.

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Re: PG: that sucked 

Post#280 » by Kampuchea » Tue Apr 22, 2025 12:53 pm

Good time to be on vacation and not catch a single minute of the game.
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