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Post#281 » by diehardNYfan01 » Fri Jan 13, 2012 3:21 am

At this point, Grunwald should take whatever he can get in return. Hopefully smaller soon expirng contracts that add to team depth.

wonder if the Rockets are still interested?
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Post#282 » by fireantoni » Fri Jan 13, 2012 3:22 am

Melo + Amare is a terrible fit and Amare + No PG is an even worse fit.

Solution?

Call up Pat the Rat and offer a Amare for Bosh swap. Makes too much sense. Bosh is smarter, better defensively, better rebounder, etc. Both are not in the right situation and change of scenery may be best. Melo + Bosh is a much better fit.
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Post#283 » by CrazyKnicks » Fri Jan 13, 2012 3:22 am

This thread is troll heaven.

Guy is struggling right now, unless he's swapped for Howard. No reason to trade him.
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Post#284 » by knicksosmoove » Fri Jan 13, 2012 3:43 am

fireantoni wrote:Melo + Amare is a terrible fit and Amare + No PG is an even worse fit.

Solution?

Call up Pat the Rat and offer a Amare for Bosh swap. Makes too much sense. Bosh is smarter, better defensively, better rebounder, etc. Both are not in the right situation and change of scenery may be best. Melo + Bosh is a much better fit.


i'd do it, but miami won't. really, carmelo + bosh makes a lot of sense and lebron + amare makes a lot of sense. half court versus full court. i don't even love bosh because he also doesn't have a post game (although, he will occasionally post up) but he is a better shooter, smarter, better defender, and better face up player and dribbler. plus he's left handed and younger. would make wayyyyy more sense next to carmelo.

if we're going to trade amare, it'll have to be for smaller fish. scola and bargnani should be the targets.
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Post#285 » by DocZaius » Fri Jan 13, 2012 3:45 am

Amare didn't give a chit tonight

He was like oh hell no, I ain't playing tonight and ran into Gasol then fouled someone intentionally going to the basket
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Post#286 » by Michael_Scott » Fri Jan 13, 2012 3:47 am

knicksosmoove wrote:
fireantoni wrote:Melo + Amare is a terrible fit and Amare + No PG is an even worse fit.

Solution?

Call up Pat the Rat and offer a Amare for Bosh swap. Makes too much sense. Bosh is smarter, better defensively, better rebounder, etc. Both are not in the right situation and change of scenery may be best. Melo + Bosh is a much better fit.


i'd do it, but miami won't. really, carmelo + bosh makes a lot of sense and lebron + amare makes a lot of sense. half court versus full court. i don't even love bosh because he also doesn't have a post game (although, he will occasionally post up) but he is a better shooter, smarter, better defender, and better face up player and dribbler. plus he's left handed and younger. would make wayyyyy more sense next to carmelo.

if we're going to trade amare, it'll have to be for smaller fish. scola and bargnani should be the targets.




Bargnani isn't good...he's putting up empty numbers on a trash team. Might as well go after Brook Lopez. GTFO.
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Post#287 » by KnickGawd28 » Fri Jan 13, 2012 3:49 am

DocZaius wrote:Amare didn't give a chit tonight

He was like oh hell no, I ain't playing tonight and ran into Gasol then fouled someone intentionally going to the basket

:lol: that funny cause it seems like that how he played it tonight...Amare really pisses me off on Defense ,&now on Offense ..but he still better than most PF in the game ...he just gotta find his game i guess.....
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Post#288 » by KNICKFAN374 » Fri Jan 13, 2012 3:49 am

knicksosmoove wrote:
fireantoni wrote:Melo + Amare is a terrible fit and Amare + No PG is an even worse fit.

Solution?

Call up Pat the Rat and offer a Amare for Bosh swap. Makes too much sense. Bosh is smarter, better defensively, better rebounder, etc. Both are not in the right situation and change of scenery may be best. Melo + Bosh is a much better fit.


i'd do it, but miami won't. really, carmelo + bosh makes a lot of sense and lebron + amare makes a lot of sense. half court versus full court. i don't even love bosh because he also doesn't have a post game (although, he will occasionally post up) but he is a better shooter, smarter, better defender, and better face up player and dribbler. plus he's left handed and younger. would make wayyyyy more sense next to carmelo.

if we're going to trade amare, it'll have to be for smaller fish. scola and bargnani should be the targets.


Yes we should trade Amare but not for Bosh. IMO that trade would be a lateral move for us but I think would improve Miami. I would try to pry Pau away from LA. He would mesh much better with Melo as he is used to playing with a dominant wing player (Kobe).
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Post#289 » by ibraheim718 » Fri Jan 13, 2012 3:49 am

fireantoni wrote:Melo + Amare is a terrible fit and Amare + No PG is an even worse fit.

Solution?

Call up Pat the Rat and offer a Amare for Bosh swap. Makes too much sense. Bosh is smarter, better defensively, better rebounder, etc. Both are not in the right situation and change of scenery may be best. Melo + Bosh is a much better fit.


You have to throw Chandler in there as well... he can't shoot so defenses can collapse and clog the paint.

If we had a good playmaking PG you could make Amare+Melo work.... but you add Chandler and that's when the parts really don't fit... which is why I said from the first day we acquired Chandler and not a good playmaking PG that the team would have trouble scoring... from day 1 I said that and guys bashed me... In the end the parts just don't fit sadly... but I'll still root the team on.
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Post#290 » by Clyde_Style » Fri Jan 13, 2012 3:53 am

Wow, this thread is still going strong. Amare does suck without a legit point guard though. He's painful to watch lately. Not a superstar by a long shot, but no longer a star with a real pick n roll to work with. He's clueless out there. He really doesn't understand the game of basketball. It is getting embarrassing. What a waste of salary cap. Ugh.
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Post#291 » by knicksosmoove » Fri Jan 13, 2012 3:54 am

it is about FIT. bargnani is no superstar . . . but neither is amare stoudemire on this line up. think about carmelo's game. what type of player do you want to put next to him? who would thrive next to him? really think about it.

an outside/inside power forward is the correct answer. someone who would feast off of carmelo drawing double teams in the post. someone who some possessions would go into the post himself and allow carmelo to feast off of the double teams he draws. someone who could provide post play when carmelo isn't on the floor. bargnani has his flaws when it comes to other things . . . defense, rebounding, passing . .. but really they're no worse than amare's. but the fit would be too good to pass up.
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Post#292 » by NyKnicks1714 » Fri Jan 13, 2012 3:55 am

Amare for Pau would be beautiful.
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Post#293 » by knicksosmoove » Fri Jan 13, 2012 3:55 am

maybe carmelo, amare, and marc gasol would have worked. but with tyson, amare becomes the odd man out.
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Post#294 » by ORANGEandBLUE » Fri Jan 13, 2012 3:58 am

Watching Lee right now; looks like a much better player. Gets the ball on the pick and roll and stops on a dime and swings it to the weak side whereas Amare would charge into his man or throw up some twisting BS lay-up.

Hopefully Amare eventually realizes that his athleticism is gone and that he has to rely on his skill.
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Post#295 » by knicksosmoove » Fri Jan 13, 2012 3:58 am

and this isn't a knee jerk reaction thread either. i'll stop talking about trading amare once i see him and carmelo with chemistry on the floor. it hasn't happened yet, and i don't see how it will happen.
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Post#296 » by KNICKFAN374 » Fri Jan 13, 2012 4:00 am

NyKnicks1714 wrote:Amare for Pau would be beautiful.


Assuming we can't get Howard maybe we can work a 3 way trade where Howard goes to LAL, Amare & Fillers to Orlando & Pau to us? Obviously the full trade needs to be examined in detail, but it wouldbe nice to get Howard out of the East whilegetting Pau.
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Post#297 » by Clyde_Style » Fri Jan 13, 2012 4:00 am

knicksosmoove wrote:it is about FIT. bargnani is no superstar . . . but neither is amare stoudemire on this line up. think about carmelo's game. what type of player do you want to put next to him? who would thrive next to him? really think about it.

an outside/inside power forward is the correct answer. someone who would feast off of carmelo drawing double teams in the post. someone who some possessions would go into the post himself and allow carmelo to feast off of the double teams he draws. someone who could provide post play when carmelo isn't on the floor. bargnani has his flaws when it comes to other things . . . defense, rebounding, passing . .. but really they're no worse than amare's. but the fit would be too good to pass up.


This team is very poorly constructed. To think Melo is our only real post up player is pretty disturbing. We don't have a classic power forward which is necessary in this set up with a traditional defensive C and a ball dominant scorer in Melo. Stat will only survive this if Baron thrives, but that is almost two months away. Stat is in danger of losing his confidence by then and could be a shell of his best version of himself. Its a shame he can't utilitize his physical gifts better, but he's clearly a big dummy out there.
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Post#298 » by Stannis » Fri Jan 13, 2012 6:30 am

I was disappointed that I did not get to see him take some of the weight when Melo went off with his injury tonight. Thought that should have been Stat's time to shine.
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Post#299 » by b-lawson » Fri Jan 13, 2012 7:35 am

Is there a player you dont have a trade thread for lol
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Post#300 » by nrober4201 » Fri Jan 13, 2012 8:26 am

Amare's trade value is absolutely nothing right now. Teams are going to view him as a bad contract until he gets his act together.

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