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Towns or Okafor or Mudiay or Russel?

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Who do you go with?

Towns
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43%
Okafur
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Mudiay
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Russel
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Re: Towns or Okafor? 

Post#281 » by NoLayupRule » Fri Dec 12, 2014 11:18 pm

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NoLayupRule wrote:its also quite possible that the knicks use the #1 overall - again if we are lucky enough - to move for a top level player like the Cavs did


Okafor for Noah would be good for me.


I know, I know. But it would be nice


No


No

so yes?
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Re: Towns or Okafor? 

Post#282 » by K_ick_God » Fri Dec 12, 2014 11:32 pm

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No


No

so yes?


LOL. No means know ;) I just think Noah is not that great, no scoring, and may have serious injury. Plus if he wants to come to NY, we could try to nab him in 2016 if he's not done. He may be done though.
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Re: Towns or Okafor? 

Post#283 » by K_ick_God » Fri Dec 12, 2014 11:36 pm

What about this sketchy idea -- if we select 1 or 2, you offer that pick to the Blazers who can S&T Aldridge and Matthews to the Knicks with us sending back the pick plus JR/Hardaway/Shump/Early, etc. ... any interest in Amar'e at ~$5M???

The S&T would allow us to take back some more salary in the deal -- maybe fit in both those guys and meanwhile Portland goes younger and cheaper, builds a dynamic duo to last the ages with Lillard and Okafor/Towns.

And Wes-Melo-Aldridge can win the East. Think about it a moment before you hate. Blazers would be buying themselves cap room and have an awesome guard-big duo for a gleaming future.
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Re: Towns or Okafor? 

Post#284 » by moocow007 » Fri Dec 12, 2014 11:38 pm

KnicksGod wrote:What about this sketchy idea -- if we select 1 or 2, you offer that pick to the Blazers who can S&T Aldridge and Matthews to the Knicks with us sending back the pick plus JR/Hardaway/Shump/Early, etc. ... any interest in Amar'e at ~$5M???

The S&T would allow us to take back some more salary in the deal -- maybe fit in both those guys and meanwhile Portland goes younger and cheaper, builds a dynamic duo to last the ages with Lillard and Okafor/Towns.

And Wes-Melo-Aldridge can win the East. Think about it a moment before you hate. Blazers would be buying themselves cap room and have an awesome guard-big duo for a gleaming future.


I would trade that pick for a proven stud like Aldridge...in a second. Then you try to find a taker for Calderon and make a push for either Dragic or Rondo.
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Re: Towns or Okafor? 

Post#285 » by K_ick_God » Fri Dec 12, 2014 11:42 pm

moocow007 wrote:
KnicksGod wrote:What about this sketchy idea -- if we select 1 or 2, you offer that pick to the Blazers who can S&T Aldridge and Matthews to the Knicks with us sending back the pick plus JR/Hardaway/Shump/Early, etc. ... any interest in Amar'e at ~$5M???

The S&T would allow us to take back some more salary in the deal -- maybe fit in both those guys and meanwhile Portland goes younger and cheaper, builds a dynamic duo to last the ages with Lillard and Okafor/Towns.

And Wes-Melo-Aldridge can win the East. Think about it a moment before you hate. Blazers would be buying themselves cap room and have an awesome guard-big duo for a gleaming future.


I would trade that pick for a proven stud like Aldridge...in a second. Then you try to find a taker for Calderon and make a push for either Dragic or Rondo.


Well that's a decent variation, yeah. You could then use other assets to just clear room for one of the A-/B+ guards who are available.

Anyway you get the idea. Top 3 pick will give the Knicks a lot of mix & match combinations. Can be used creatively with cap room.
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Re: Towns or Okafor? 

Post#286 » by Meat » Sat Dec 13, 2014 12:09 am

KnicksGod wrote:What about this sketchy idea -- if we select 1 or 2, you offer that pick to the Blazers who can S&T Aldridge and Matthews to the Knicks with us sending back the pick plus JR/Hardaway/Shump/Early, etc. ... any interest in Amar'e at ~$5M???

The S&T would allow us to take back some more salary in the deal -- maybe fit in both those guys and meanwhile Portland goes younger and cheaper, builds a dynamic duo to last the ages with Lillard and Okafor/Towns.

And Wes-Melo-Aldridge can win the East. Think about it a moment before you hate. Blazers would be buying themselves cap room and have an awesome guard-big duo for a gleaming future.

yes, if the last 1st round pick could net you kevin love this(being a better draft+big men) should net you a top 15 player
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Re: Towns or Okafor? 

Post#287 » by K_ick_God » Sat Dec 13, 2014 12:10 am

moocow007 wrote:
KnicksGod wrote:What about this sketchy idea -- if we select 1 or 2, you offer that pick to the Blazers who can S&T Aldridge and Matthews to the Knicks with us sending back the pick plus JR/Hardaway/Shump/Early, etc. ... any interest in Amar'e at ~$5M???

The S&T would allow us to take back some more salary in the deal -- maybe fit in both those guys and meanwhile Portland goes younger and cheaper, builds a dynamic duo to last the ages with Lillard and Okafor/Towns.

And Wes-Melo-Aldridge can win the East. Think about it a moment before you hate. Blazers would be buying themselves cap room and have an awesome guard-big duo for a gleaming future.


I would trade that pick for a proven stud like Aldridge...in a second. Then you try to find a taker for Calderon and make a push for either Dragic or Rondo.


... Could work most effectively a slightly different sequence. Use the lottery pick to clear out Calderon, JR Smith, maybe Hardaway, get back one serviceable veteran but clear most all that room and then sign Rondo or Dragic and on that basis you sell Aldridge or Gasol on joining a balanced and dynamic big 3.
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Re: Towns or Okafor? 

Post#288 » by Meat » Sat Dec 13, 2014 12:29 am

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moocow007 wrote:
KnicksGod wrote:What about this sketchy idea -- if we select 1 or 2, you offer that pick to the Blazers who can S&T Aldridge and Matthews to the Knicks with us sending back the pick plus JR/Hardaway/Shump/Early, etc. ... any interest in Amar'e at ~$5M???

The S&T would allow us to take back some more salary in the deal -- maybe fit in both those guys and meanwhile Portland goes younger and cheaper, builds a dynamic duo to last the ages with Lillard and Okafor/Towns.

And Wes-Melo-Aldridge can win the East. Think about it a moment before you hate. Blazers would be buying themselves cap room and have an awesome guard-big duo for a gleaming future.


I would trade that pick for a proven stud like Aldridge...in a second. Then you try to find a taker for Calderon and make a push for either Dragic or Rondo.


... Could work most effectively a slightly different sequence. Use the lottery pick to clear out Calderon, JR Smith, maybe Hardaway, get back one serviceable veteran but clear most all that room and then sign Rondo or Dragic and on that basis you sell Aldridge or Gasol on joining a balanced and dynamic big 3.

the 2018 1st rounder should be enough for both jr and\or Calderon. for sure 1 and the other taking maybe a 2nd rounder or 2. jr for one year for 2 2nd round picks isnt that much for a rebuilding team to swallow
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Re: Towns or Okafor? 

Post#289 » by HighRyzer83 » Sat Dec 13, 2014 12:35 am

Melo needs a big, active, defensive center to grab boards and rotate help. This is not Okafor's game. Towns is better but he's not ready to be a defensive stopper in the NBA yet. Come to think of it Melo also needs a heady PG like Mudai. So yeah he needs a Guard and a Center and possibly another wing to balance out the other side and shift perimeter D. Oh yeah, and he also needs a particular coach too. Basically until we can collect the entire **** dream team, Melo is useless. Holy ****
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Re: Towns or Okafor? 

Post#290 » by K_ick_God » Sat Dec 13, 2014 12:39 am

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KnicksGod wrote:
moocow007 wrote:
I would trade that pick for a proven stud like Aldridge...in a second. Then you try to find a taker for Calderon and make a push for either Dragic or Rondo.


... Could work most effectively a slightly different sequence. Use the lottery pick to clear out Calderon, JR Smith, maybe Hardaway, get back one serviceable veteran but clear most all that room and then sign Rondo or Dragic and on that basis you sell Aldridge or Gasol on joining a balanced and dynamic big 3.

the 2018 1st rounder should be enough for both jr and\or Calderon. for sure 1 and the other taking maybe a 2nd rounder or 2. jr for one year for 2 2nd round picks isnt that much for a rebuilding team to swallow


It's powerful to dangle a pick for room and after all JR is just one more year and Calderon serviceable so you might be right. And something like this could be on their mind which is why they didn't want Larkin on the cap even on a low amount.
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Re: Towns or Okafor? 

Post#291 » by Fifth Horseman » Sat Dec 13, 2014 12:46 am

HighRyzer83 wrote:Melo needs a big, active, defensive center to grab boards and rotate help. This is not Okafor's game. Towns is better but he's not ready to be a defensive stopper in the NBA yet. Come to think of it Melo also needs a heady PG like Mudai. So yeah he needs a Guard and a Center and possibly another wing to balance out the other side and shift perimeter D. Oh yeah, and he also needs a particular coach too. Basically until we can collect the entire **** dream team, Melo is useless. Holy ****

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Re: Towns or Okafor? 

Post#292 » by Meat » Sat Dec 13, 2014 12:53 am

HighRyzer83 wrote:Melo needs a big, active, defensive center to grab boards and rotate help. This is not Okafor's game. Towns is better but he's not ready to be a defensive stopper in the NBA yet. Come to think of it Melo also needs a heady PG like Mudai. So yeah he needs a Guard and a Center and possibly another wing to balance out the other side and shift perimeter D. Oh yeah, and he also needs a particular coach too. Basically until we can collect the entire **** dream team, Melo is useless. Holy ****

i wonder what he'd do with credible starters? because the only one he's had in his ny tenure is tyson chandler, and not last year's tyson chandler
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Re: Towns or Okafor? 

Post#293 » by Kenyon009 » Sat Dec 13, 2014 8:19 am

I would use that pick to grab a second star easily. Anthony's prime years can't be wasted developing a B level prospect. I would rather try to grab a star off the market. Aldridge be the prime target and if the Knicks could get Dragic in FA they'd be set.

LMA
Melo
Shumpert
THJR
Dragic

That's a fairly good line up with a lot of talent and specialty it obviously lacks a big, bruiser but where there's a will there's a way.
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Re: Towns or Okafor? 

Post#294 » by FutureKnicksGM » Sat Dec 13, 2014 9:35 am

I have seen any of Towns at Kentucky, but earlier he played a little soft (for someone who projects as a C). Has he outgrown that or is it still an issue?
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Towns or Okafor? 

Post#295 » by blueNorange » Sat Dec 13, 2014 9:45 am

talking clam confirms #KAT2NYK
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Re: Towns or Okafor? 

Post#296 » by E-Balla » Sat Dec 13, 2014 1:01 pm

KnicksGod wrote:What about this sketchy idea -- if we select 1 or 2, you offer that pick to the Blazers who can S&T Aldridge and Matthews to the Knicks with us sending back the pick plus JR/Hardaway/Shump/Early, etc. ... any interest in Amar'e at ~$5M???

The S&T would allow us to take back some more salary in the deal -- maybe fit in both those guys and meanwhile Portland goes younger and cheaper, builds a dynamic duo to last the ages with Lillard and Okafor/Towns.

And Wes-Melo-Aldridge can win the East. Think about it a moment before you hate. Blazers would be buying themselves cap room and have an awesome guard-big duo for a gleaming future.

Why would Portland make that move. Lillard is still relatively young I see LMA waiting.

Our best chance is Memphis losing in round one (it'll only happen if they end up playing OKC) because there was talk about the team thinking they peaked when they made the WCF (they haven't but they don't know that). Portland is too young to be blowing it up. I think if we could get Dragic and a top pick someone else will want to sign with us. Not sure if I'd want to give up Towns or Okafor for them though.
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Re: Towns or Okafor? 

Post#297 » by E-Balla » Sat Dec 13, 2014 1:03 pm

FutureKnicksGM wrote:I have seen any of Towns at Kentucky, but earlier he played a little soft (for someone who projects as a C). Has he outgrown that or is it still an issue?

He's still soft and he seems to over shoot since he realized he's usually not getting it back after passing it. Defensively he's protecting the rim amazingly well and along with the other Kentucky bigs he's looking like a terror.
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Re: Towns or Okafor? 

Post#298 » by TheBigBoss » Sat Dec 13, 2014 2:07 pm

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Re: Towns or Okafor? 

Post#299 » by IAmTheBest » Sat Dec 13, 2014 2:32 pm

KnicksGod wrote:
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NoLayupRule wrote:its also quite possible that the knicks use the #1 overall - again if we are lucky enough - to move for a top level player like the Cavs did


Okafor for Noah would be good for me.


I know, I know. But it would be nice


No


No


Noah is suffering from arthritis and is likely to come in at the level he was playing at last season.

There is no need to give up a potential franchise pillar for him.
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Re: Towns or Okafor? 

Post#300 » by Retired_Doc » Sat Dec 13, 2014 7:04 pm

Why are most ppl here overlooking Willie Cauley-Stein. He is very much outplaying his teammate Towns.
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