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Re: OT. The Donald Trump Momentum Thread 

Post#281 » by nykballa2k4 » Tue Mar 15, 2016 2:25 am

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Bill Pidto wrote:
IllmaticHandler wrote:**** Trump

He speaks to the ignorance of America. A large portion of his campaign is based off racism.


Google the word 'nationalism'

Different than racism.

Ignorance is accepting and trusting in the leadership we've had for many years now. Before Obama and before Bush. Before both Bush's. Ignorance is firmly believing Hilary Clinton is going to help right the ship. Ignorance is believing that socialism is the answer. There are serious, SERIOUS issues at play here, that most Americans are still completely unaware of. Trump may not be an angel, but he is by far the most believable candidate I've ever seen, and at least on the surface, he represents a possible answer to some of the atrocities committed by "the establishment" (I love how that's just a media buzzword now)

Trump is funding his own campaign, speaking out against corporations, special interests, the lying media and lying politicians... and both sides are scared of him and are trying to sabatoge him. That's a red badge of honor for me.

It's funny.... people have been laughing at "conspiracy theorists" for years, and now much of those theories are playing out in plain sight, and you even have globalists like Hilary Clinton admitting that "the economy is rigged" as part of her campaign. It's a joke.

I thought for sure Alex Jones of all people would find a way to say that Trump is some how an Illuminati puppet designed to disrupt or whatever..... but even Alex Jones has thrown his full support behind Trump. Something big is happening here.

When Trump talks about people who come up to him and tell him they've never voted in their lives, but are finally going to vote now.... I'm one of those people.


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what a surprise

I would say I am in disagreement with Bill, but can you please add more to your feedback? It comes off as petty and ignorant.
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump Momentum Thread 

Post#282 » by nykballa2k4 » Tue Mar 15, 2016 2:31 am

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will34 wrote:Prefer Sanders...if he doesn't win nom I will vote Trump. If Trump doesn't run I will vote 3rd party. Wouldn't vote Clinton with a gun to my head.

I genuinely don't know what makes a person vote for Trump. What are your reasons if you don't mind?


I can't vote for Hillary. So if Trump is the nom I'd rather see him bring the country down than her. If Cruz is the nom I can't vote for him. He's too radical so I'd vote third party.

I know you asked for reasons and I didn't really give them. None of them are good and if it's Trump/Clinton the country will fail. I'd rather see something different with Trump.


Why not just vote 3rd party regardless? Vote Jill Stein. I may consider doing something similar if I am left with Hillary and Cruz. If it's Trump, I am on the "anything but Trump" side due to fear of how other nations will view us.
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump Momentum Thread 

Post#283 » by Im Coming Home » Tue Mar 15, 2016 2:33 am

I feel like all the candidates sucks this time. Every single one of them has major major flaws in one way or another..

Why are we just getting stuck picking 'whos the least terrible'

Trump is gonna get votes by all the closet racists and I really don't know what I'd do if he wins but I know I'd honestly want to move out of the country..
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump Momentum Thread 

Post#284 » by Capn'O » Tue Mar 15, 2016 2:38 am

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nykballa2k4 wrote:I genuinely don't know what makes a person vote for Trump. What are your reasons if you don't mind?


I can't vote for Hillary. So if Trump is the nom I'd rather see him bring the country down than her. If Cruz is the nom I can't vote for him. He's too radical so I'd vote third party.

I know you asked for reasons and I didn't really give them. None of them are good and if it's Trump/Clinton the country will fail. I'd rather see something different with Trump.


Why not just vote 3rd party regardless? Vote Jill Stein. I may consider doing something similar if I am left with Hillary and Cruz. If it's Trump, I am on the "anything but Trump" side due to fear of how other nations will view us.


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Re: OT. The Donald Trump Momentum Thread 

Post#285 » by BBALLER4FR » Tue Mar 15, 2016 2:40 am

EFF Donald Trump and his hateful speech which creates acts of violence. And here are some more violent rhetoric from other Republicans

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYM6UjwwP90[/youtube]

Do we really want to continue to blame Trump for violent rhetoric and the state of political discourse?

Spoiler:
Obama: "Get in their faces. Argue!"

Obama: "If they bring a knife, we bring a gun"
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump Momentum Thread 

Post#286 » by will34 » Tue Mar 15, 2016 2:46 am

nykballa2k4 wrote:
will34 wrote:
nykballa2k4 wrote:I genuinely don't know what makes a person vote for Trump. What are your reasons if you don't mind?


I can't vote for Hillary. So if Trump is the nom I'd rather see him bring the country down than her. If Cruz is the nom I can't vote for him. He's too radical so I'd vote third party.

I know you asked for reasons and I didn't really give them. None of them are good and if it's Trump/Clinton the country will fail. I'd rather see something different with Trump.


Why not just vote 3rd party regardless? Vote Jill Stein. I may consider doing something similar if I am left with Hillary and Cruz. If it's Trump, I am on the "anything but Trump" side due to fear of how other nations will view us.


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Re: OT. The Donald Trump Momentum Thread 

Post#287 » by Riot Randolph » Tue Mar 15, 2016 3:07 am

BBALLER4FR wrote:EFF Donald Trump and his hateful speech which creates acts of violence. And here are some more violent rhetoric from other Republicans

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYM6UjwwP90[/youtube]

Do we really want to continue to blame Trump for violent rhetoric and the state of political discourse?

Spoiler:
Obama: "Get in their faces. Argue!"

Obama: "If they bring a knife, we bring a gun"

that video is an embarrassment and an insult to intelligence...you use clearly figurative statements as a point of comparison for clearly literal...

lets see...

"Knock the hell out of them. I promise you I will pay for the legal fees. I promise."
“I’d like to punch him in the face.”
“I love the old days. You know what they used to do to guys like that when they were in a place like this? They’d be carried out on a stretcher, folks.”

his hesitation to disavow white supremacists...
retweeting white supremacists
suggesting we commit war crimes
suggesting we shoot muslims with bullets dipped in pigs blood...


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Re: OT. The Donald Trump Momentum Thread 

Post#288 » by CJackson » Tue Mar 15, 2016 3:09 am

nykballa2k4 wrote:
CluelessJackson wrote:
Bill Pidto wrote:
Google the word 'nationalism'

Different than racism.

Ignorance is accepting and trusting in the leadership we've had for many years now. Before Obama and before Bush. Before both Bush's. Ignorance is firmly believing Hilary Clinton is going to help right the ship. Ignorance is believing that socialism is the answer. There are serious, SERIOUS issues at play here, that most Americans are still completely unaware of. Trump may not be an angel, but he is by far the most believable candidate I've ever seen, and at least on the surface, he represents a possible answer to some of the atrocities committed by "the establishment" (I love how that's just a media buzzword now)

Trump is funding his own campaign, speaking out against corporations, special interests, the lying media and lying politicians... and both sides are scared of him and are trying to sabatoge him. That's a red badge of honor for me.

It's funny.... people have been laughing at "conspiracy theorists" for years, and now much of those theories are playing out in plain sight, and you even have globalists like Hilary Clinton admitting that "the economy is rigged" as part of her campaign. It's a joke.

I thought for sure Alex Jones of all people would find a way to say that Trump is some how an Illuminati puppet designed to disrupt or whatever..... but even Alex Jones has thrown his full support behind Trump. Something big is happening here.

When Trump talks about people who come up to him and tell him they've never voted in their lives, but are finally going to vote now.... I'm one of those people.


The Donald Trump of RealGM supports Donald Trump

what a surprise

I would say I am in disagreement with Bill, but can you please add more to your feedback? It comes off as petty and ignorant.


Petty? you bet. Trump is the pettiest man alive and that kind of statement of support from a equally nasty poster deserves no debate or counter argument

but i will give one reason why they are alike. they both call everyone who doesnt agree with them stupid or ignorant. they deserve each other

It for sure was an insult and if it wasnt short and punchy it would not be much of an insult and it doesnt require more explanation
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump Momentum Thread 

Post#289 » by HarthorneWingo » Tue Mar 15, 2016 3:27 am

knicks85 wrote:
Mike Breen wrote:I knew I shouldn't have clicked on this thread. Lost a lot of respect for several posters whom I have otherwise respected.

Is this a Bill Pidto Mike Breen rift?


Wait, Pidto and Breen had a rift?
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump Momentum Thread 

Post#290 » by Jeffrey » Tue Mar 15, 2016 3:45 am

knicks85 wrote:
BBALLER4FR wrote:EFF Donald Trump and his hateful speech which creates acts of violence. And here are some more violent rhetoric from other Republicans

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYM6UjwwP90[/youtube]

Do we really want to continue to blame Trump for violent rhetoric and the state of political discourse?

Spoiler:
Obama: "Get in their faces. Argue!"

Obama: "If they bring a knife, we bring a gun"

that video is an embarrassment and an insult to intelligence...you use clearly figurative statements as a point of comparison for clearly literal...

lets see...

"Knock the hell out of them. I promise you I will pay for the legal fees. I promise."
“I’d like to punch him in the face.”
“I love the old days. You know what they used to do to guys like that when they were in a place like this? They’d be carried out on a stretcher, folks.”

his hesitation to disavow white supremacists...
retweeting white supremacists
suggesting we commit war crimes
suggesting we shoot muslims with bullets dipped in pigs blood...


come on bro that was a pathetic attempt...Image


EXACTLY! People are really dumb. A week ago the Republican debate had a conversation on who had the biggest effing wang. Are you serious?! I guess a lot of people here just do not have friends outside of America. A lot of my friends are now asking me... what the eff is wrong with America, why aren't you guys taking the Presidential election seriously.
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump Momentum Thread 

Post#291 » by kinein » Tue Mar 15, 2016 3:48 am

NYKnicksTAPE wrote:
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NYKnicksTAPE wrote:You've got to be kidding me? Lord Trump? Smh...

All Trump is good for is dumb jokes and acting like a clown during debates anyways


He's an ok guy. I like that he doesn't bow down to special interest groups, especially the social ones that are vomit worthy. He's a good business man and I like that in a leader. I love that he wants to overhaul our immigration system.

Hillary Clinton is also one of the most corrupt politicians of all time. So even if you don't like Trump, I think you gotta do some soul searching if you're willing to vote for her.

I don't like Hillary that much either. Both of them aren't good candidates for the presidency in my eyes. Trump is a clown to me, and his toxic rhetoric is dangerous



You decide where the toxic rhetoric is coming from:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gI9MCvK2MGs[/youtube]

Here's Obama with his we bring a gun rhetoric.
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/06/14/obama-if-they-bring-a-knife-to-the-fight-we-bring-a-gun/

Amazingly enough EVERY VIDEO EVER POSTED of him saying this is REMOVED. GG this is BEYOND TOXIC RHETORIC.
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump Momentum Thread 

Post#292 » by BBALLER4FR » Tue Mar 15, 2016 3:51 am

knicks85 wrote:
BBALLER4FR wrote:EFF Donald Trump and his hateful speech which creates acts of violence. And here are some more violent rhetoric from other Republicans

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYM6UjwwP90[/youtube]

Do we really want to continue to blame Trump for violent rhetoric and the state of political discourse?

Spoiler:
Obama: "Get in their faces. Argue!"

Obama: "If they bring a knife, we bring a gun"

that video is an embarrassment and an insult to intelligence...you use clearly figurative statements as a point of comparison for clearly literal...

lets see...

"Knock the hell out of them. I promise you I will pay for the legal fees. I promise."
“I’d like to punch him in the face.”
“I love the old days. You know what they used to do to guys like that when they were in a place like this? They’d be carried out on a stretcher, folks.”

his hesitation to disavow white supremacists...
retweeting white supremacists
suggesting we commit war crimes
suggesting we shoot muslims with bullets dipped in pigs blood...


come on bro that was a pathetic attempt...Image


I bring proof that Trump's "rhetoric" is no worse than Obama's and your out is "He didn't mean it literally" FOH! THAT is a pathetic and lazy attempt.

rhet·o·ric
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noun: rhetoric

the art of effective or persuasive speaking or writing, especially the use of figures of speech and other compositional techniques.
synonyms: oratory, eloquence, command of language, way with words
"a form of rhetoric"
language designed to have a persuasive or impressive effect on its audience, but often regarded as lacking in sincerity or meaningful content.

Both men did this, but in your insane mind one meant it, the other was speaking figuratively. That's why debates never work, because you play with a weird set of rules that never stays the same.

Palin says: We're targeting the Democrats up for re-election (obviously a call to arms to shoot public officials).

Democrats equate Republicans to terrorist? (Handy Metaphor)

Ugh!
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump Momentum Thread 

Post#293 » by BBALLER4FR » Tue Mar 15, 2016 3:59 am

Jeffrey wrote:
knicks85 wrote:
BBALLER4FR wrote:EFF Donald Trump and his hateful speech which creates acts of violence. And here are some more violent rhetoric from other Republicans

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYM6UjwwP90[/youtube]

Do we really want to continue to blame Trump for violent rhetoric and the state of political discourse?

Spoiler:
Obama: "Get in their faces. Argue!"

Obama: "If they bring a knife, we bring a gun"

that video is an embarrassment and an insult to intelligence...you use clearly figurative statements as a point of comparison for clearly literal...

lets see...

"Knock the hell out of them. I promise you I will pay for the legal fees. I promise."
“I’d like to punch him in the face.”
“I love the old days. You know what they used to do to guys like that when they were in a place like this? They’d be carried out on a stretcher, folks.”

his hesitation to disavow white supremacists...
retweeting white supremacists
suggesting we commit war crimes
suggesting we shoot muslims with bullets dipped in pigs blood...


come on bro that was a pathetic attempt...Image


EXACTLY! People are really dumb. A week ago the Republican debate had a conversation on who had the biggest effing wang. Are you serious?! I guess a lot of people here just do not have friends outside of America. A lot of my friends are now asking me... what the eff is wrong with America, why aren't you guys taking the Presidential election seriously.


You literally said nothing there. :lol: In fact, you both ignored or justified the clearly offensive and disgraceful rhetoric of hate from our current president and then circle jerked with a wack gif and an +1. Just say "You are right. Sometimes we go overboard in condemning the other side forgetting to look at our side" and be done with it. I'll gladly give you that and say the same if it means we can have a meaningful discussion where you stop saying you're always right and FINALLY admit that both sides can be wrong. But no. You keep going.
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump Momentum Thread 

Post#294 » by Jeffrey » Tue Mar 15, 2016 5:45 am

BBALLER4FR wrote:
Jeffrey wrote:
knicks85 wrote:that video is an embarrassment and an insult to intelligence...you use clearly figurative statements as a point of comparison for clearly literal...

lets see...

"Knock the hell out of them. I promise you I will pay for the legal fees. I promise."
“I’d like to punch him in the face.”
“I love the old days. You know what they used to do to guys like that when they were in a place like this? They’d be carried out on a stretcher, folks.”

his hesitation to disavow white supremacists...
retweeting white supremacists
suggesting we commit war crimes
suggesting we shoot muslims with bullets dipped in pigs blood...


come on bro that was a pathetic attempt...Image


EXACTLY! People are really dumb. A week ago the Republican debate had a conversation on who had the biggest effing wang. Are you serious?! I guess a lot of people here just do not have friends outside of America. A lot of my friends are now asking me... what the eff is wrong with America, why aren't you guys taking the Presidential election seriously.


You literally said nothing there. :lol: In fact, you both ignored or justified the clearly offensive and disgraceful rhetoric of hate from our current president and then circle jerked with a wack gif and an +1. Just say "You are right. Sometimes we go overboard in condemning the other side forgetting to look at our side" and be done with it. I'll gladly give you that and say the same if it means we can have a meaningful discussion where you stop saying you're always right and FINALLY admit that both sides can be wrong. But no. You keep going.


And Trump supporters says a lot. Why don't you tell all of us what his slogan means, "Make America great again!". What time period are we talking about? What decade? era? century?

Other than going on Trump's website, has he really even talked about policies during the debates/rallies? His outlandish statements have any credibility?

I hear the same nonsense from his supporters everyday:
1.) Not part of the establishment
2.) Says it like it is
3.) Lobbyists can't buy him
4.) If we're going to fck up, may as well fck up big time
5.) Islam is a terrorist religion

But he has no solutions to really fix America.
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump Momentum Thread 

Post#295 » by kinein » Tue Mar 15, 2016 5:59 am

Jeffrey wrote:
I hear the same nonsense from his supporters everyday:
1.) Not part of the establishment
2.) Says it like it is
3.) Lobbyists can't buy him
4.) If we're going to fck up, may as well fck up big time
5.) Islam is a terrorist religion

But he has no solutions to really fix America.


There you go, you have other things you care about.

You don't care for those Trump voter opinions, and you've stated your opinion.
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump Momentum Thread 

Post#296 » by BBALLER4FR » Tue Mar 15, 2016 6:04 am

Jeffrey wrote:And Trump supporters says a lot. Why don't you tell all of us what his slogan means, "Make America great again!". What time period are we talking about? What decade? era? century?


Maybe influential again. Maybe a little more fiscally responsible. I don't know. What the hell did "Change you can believe in" mean?

Jeffrey wrote:Other than going on Trump's website, has he really even talked about policies during the debates/rallies? His outlandish statements have any credibility?

I hear the same nonsense from his supporters everyday:
1.) Not part of the establishment
2.) Says it like it is
3.) Lobbyists can't buy him
4.) If we're going to fck up, may as well fck up big time
5.) Islam is a terrorist religion

But he has no solutions to really fix America.


Neither does Hillary, Cruz or Sanders. But if you insist on piling on the bandwagon of "He's looking to encourage " at least acknowledge that liberals wrote the playbook on despicable rhetoric. And when questioning what solutions he has to fix America ask yourself what the our current President has done to fix America (we are clearly worse off in regards to how we respect the viewpoints of others eh?) and honestly, what can Hillary do to right the ship? She claims to have always been at the forefront for minorities but there is absolutely no evidence of it. She just says things and people eat it up.
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Post#297 » by CJackson » Tue Mar 15, 2016 6:08 am

Jeffrey wrote:
BBALLER4FR wrote:
Jeffrey wrote:
EXACTLY! People are really dumb. A week ago the Republican debate had a conversation on who had the biggest effing wang. Are you serious?! I guess a lot of people here just do not have friends outside of America. A lot of my friends are now asking me... what the eff is wrong with America, why aren't you guys taking the Presidential election seriously.


You literally said nothing there. :lol: In fact, you both ignored or justified the clearly offensive and disgraceful rhetoric of hate from our current president and then circle jerked with a wack gif and an +1. Just say "You are right. Sometimes we go overboard in condemning the other side forgetting to look at our side" and be done with it. I'll gladly give you that and say the same if it means we can have a meaningful discussion where you stop saying you're always right and FINALLY admit that both sides can be wrong. But no. You keep going.


And Trump supporters says a lot. Why don't you tell all of us what his slogan means, "Make America great again!". What time period are we talking about? What decade? era? century?

Other than going on Trump's website, has he really even talked about policies during the debates/rallies? His outlandish statements have any credibility?

I hear the same nonsense from his supporters everyday:
1.) Not part of the establishment
2.) Says it like it is
3.) Lobbyists can't buy him
4.) If we're going to fck up, may as well fck up big time
5.) Islam is a terrorist religion

But he has no solutions to really fix America.


Trump has one skill that sets him apart, he is able to say anything that he promotes without shame. he has no shame. that is his magic power and why so many idiots love him. they love somebody mooning in public and being ballsy and rich enough to get away with it. that is their american dream and they wish they could have that for themselves.

many of them are racist filth for sure but many are are full of envy and want to back somebody who is more like them than a career politician. they identify with Trump even if he is historically the most backstabbing guy in the world. he will sell them all down the river first time it serves him.

it is his lack of morals that is getting him their approval, not an idea. it is strange as hell but to his fans he has some kind of sex appeal. to everyone else he is a disgusting pig. his supporters love that he is polarising. saying make america great again is the empty slogan for their reptile brains. trump does not benefit from a slogan with real meaning. it has to be empty and hollow so it does not take away from what really matters, the spotlight on him

Jerry Springer is not a stupid man. he was into politics and then he found money by hosting trailer trash fights on tv. he is trumps spiritual father
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump Momentum Thread 

Post#298 » by CJackson » Tue Mar 15, 2016 6:23 am

BBALLER4FR wrote:
Jeffrey wrote:And Trump supporters says a lot. Why don't you tell all of us what his slogan means, "Make America great again!". What time period are we talking about? What decade? era? century?


Maybe influential again. Maybe a little more fiscally responsible. I don't know. What the hell did "Change you can believe in" mean?

Jeffrey wrote:Other than going on Trump's website, has he really even talked about policies during the debates/rallies? His outlandish statements have any credibility?

I hear the same nonsense from his supporters everyday:
1.) Not part of the establishment
2.) Says it like it is
3.) Lobbyists can't buy him
4.) If we're going to fck up, may as well fck up big time
5.) Islam is a terrorist religion

But he has no solutions to really fix America.


Neither does Hillary, Cruz or Sanders. But if you insist on piling on the bandwagon of "He's looking to encourage " at least acknowledge that liberals wrote the playbook on despicable rhetoric. And when questioning what solutions he has to fix America ask yourself what the our current President has done to fix America (we are clearly worse off in regards to how we respect the viewpoints of others eh?) and honestly, what can Hillary do to right the ship? She claims to have always been at the forefront for minorities but there is absolutely no evidence of it. She just says things and people eat it up.


political parties has nothing to do with it. trump is on another level when it comes to hate baiting. listing other candidates or going back in time and saying which side is more hateful is not useful when talking about trump. if you want to go back in time you might as well go back long enough to find the old school bad boys who got power by acting like brats. but even joe mccarthy or george wallace or huey long look like elite minds next to a caveman like trump

not defending other politicians but pretending they are all equally poisonous means nothing when dealing with a me first facist wannabe like trump. he has no agenda other than himself. you could say hilary and cruz are opportunists and power hungry and backstabbers too and i would agree with you for sure. but they are not making threats to foreign govts and saying theyll export 10 million people out of america.

the sick things that pops out of this guys mouth are a new direction for modern american politics and the other corrupt politicians are in shock at his balls. most of it is moronic and very little of it is policy based or considered with any real thought. he shoots from the hip and when you have a cave man shooting first and asking questions later you have to wonder how anybody could want his finger on the button

and trump is a thief. he has ripped off more people than almost anybody. he has no integrity and would be a political disaster
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump Momentum Thread 

Post#299 » by HarthorneWingo » Tue Mar 15, 2016 6:23 am

:roll:

‘Trump! Trump! Trump!’ attacker allegedly yelled as he beat Hispanic man, Muslim student


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/03/14/trump-trump-trump-yells-attacker-as-he-beats-hispanic-man-muslim-student/

Milwaukee man kills three neighbors after learning one is from Puerto Rico: ‘You guys got to go’


http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/milwaukee-man-kills-neighbors-bigoted-comment-article-1.2564489
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump Momentum Thread 

Post#300 » by CJackson » Tue Mar 15, 2016 6:29 am

HarthorneWingo wrote::roll:

‘Trump! Trump! Trump!’ attacker allegedly yelled as he beat Hispanic man, Muslim student


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/03/14/trump-trump-trump-yells-attacker-as-he-beats-hispanic-man-muslim-student/

Milwaukee man kills three neighbors after learning one is from Puerto Rico: ‘You guys got to go’


http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/milwaukee-man-kills-neighbors-bigoted-comment-article-1.2564489


scary. the klan spirit has found its new hero in trump. notice how trump does nothing to discorage any of it, he knows his base

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