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Re: OT: Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi 

Post#281 » by Oscirus » Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:14 am

Knickstape1214 wrote:
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. regarding Finn, he was a Janitor, not a Mandalorian warrior , that's crazy he was able to Kill her.


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The book Before the Force shows us that Finn was a bad ass. I believe he was the top 1 percent among all Stormtroopers and would've been promoted if not for his empathetic feelings. Considering,that and the fact that he caught Phasma from behind, it's not too crazy to see how he was able to defeat her.


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The fight was pretty lackluster, though.

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I don't think Rian is good at staging fights which is likely why we have our first star wars without a real light saber duel.
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Re: OT: Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi 

Post#282 » by IllmaticHandler » Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:15 am

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ive seen all the movies before this I just never found them super awesome. I’m not some force awakens just started kinda thing smash was talking about. You’re right, I’m not attached tho but that doesn’t mean I can’t tell a good movie from a bad one. So you can only talk about the movie if you’re a Super fan? Come on man.

You’re right tho, your fandom doesn’t mean you can’t either but there’s too many all or nothing critiques. Like if this wasn’t good the whole movie was trash. That’s crazy.



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Who said you just watched it...but thats my point. You NEVER found them super awesome. Said no Die hard fan ever. So you are proving my point that you view this in a whole different scope than a die hard fan.Well saying its trash to me is accurate. I personally find really nothing good about the movie. I don't even care to watch again.

I think Wrestling is kinda weak, but you love it....I dont find it entertaining, but you do. Thats the point I am making. I dont have the attachment you do to wrestling.


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but that doesn’t mean I wouldn’t value your opinion on wrestling you’ve seen. You’re basically saying you have to have loved all the movies before this to have an opinion on this one. That’s crazy. I really liked episode 3 and empire strikes back. Thought everything else was ok or boring.



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No I dont value your opinion on saying people are butthurt. Your not attached to it like that. Not that you cant have an opinion the movie. :lol:
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Re: OT: Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi 

Post#283 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:15 am

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and it’s obvious Kylo was lying about Rey’s parents. That’s what Star Wars do: lie about who’s the daddy. I think it’s probably the most anticlimactic theory but just like how Luke was sent to live as a peasant while Leia with royalty, Rey was sent off because she got that real Vader potential moreso than Ben. While Ben grew up the princess’s kid with all of the grand expectations, Rey was the one with that Anakin streak.
They’re brother and sister.


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I really hope he was lying. The way he said it actually made me think that he was lying - didn’t sound genuine at all. Give me an Obi Wan relative, PLEASE.

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Doubt it since the director didn't even seem to believe that Kylo was lying. Maybe JJ changes his mind, but for now, he's telling the truth.


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A man can wish, can't he? :lol: If they do decide to go a different route and make her parents somebodies, they can just go back to the way Ren said it. It really seemed like he was lying.
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Re: OT: Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi 

Post#284 » by Fury » Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:19 am

Knickstape1214 wrote:
Fury wrote:
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The Luke part is just schitty/flawed writing, how are you calling people buthurt for a character doing a 180 in his reasonings and actions? It’s not like he got jaded or went through anything crazy before he became cool with killing teenagers in their sleep.


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you make it sound like he cocked back the lightsaber and was in the process of doing it. The way he explained it it was just a quick flash in his mind. I’ll have to rewatch what else he says but why would Luke want to deal with another Darth Vader? He ain’t a young idealistic kid anymore. That makes the entire movie bad?! That’s what I mean about “OH LUKE WOULDNT DO THAT! EVERYTHING SUCKS!


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Pretty sure all that was said was that Luke saw / sensed darkness (rising) in Ben and that was enough because he was afraid of what would happen. Luke would never do that. Dude was trying to get Caedus / Jacen to turn back to the good even AFTER killing Mara Jade in the old canon. We don't know why the darkness was there, what prompted it, what Snoke did to get to Ben, what happened to the people Ben took with him, who else he killed (teachers? students? what?), why he didn't try to talk with him, etc. Leia and Han's son is becoming darker...so...Luke should kill him? Like...what...?He even pulled Vader back and refused to kill him.



Ill, I knew we'd feel the same way.


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its a solid point but you can’t stress about the books when it comes to films. We know this from watching super hero movies.
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Re: OT: Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi 

Post#285 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:21 am

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Knickstape1214 wrote:
Fury wrote:
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you make it sound like he cocked back the lightsaber and was in the process of doing it. The way he explained it it was just a quick flash in his mind. I’ll have to rewatch what else he says but why would Luke want to deal with another Darth Vader? He ain’t a young idealistic kid anymore. That makes the entire movie bad?! That’s what I mean about “OH LUKE WOULDNT DO THAT! EVERYTHING SUCKS!


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Pretty sure all that was said was that Luke saw / sensed darkness (rising) in Ben and that was enough because he was afraid of what would happen. Luke would never do that. Dude was trying to get Caedus / Jacen to turn back to the good even AFTER killing Mara Jade in the old canon. We don't know why the darkness was there, what prompted it, what Snoke did to get to Ben, what happened to the people Ben took with him, who else he killed (teachers? students? what?), why he didn't try to talk with him, etc. Leia and Han's son is becoming darker...so...Luke should kill him? Like...what...?He even pulled Vader back and refused to kill him.



Ill, I knew we'd feel the same way.


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its a solid point but you can’t stress about the books when it comes to films. We know this from watching super hero movies.


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Even the movies. ROTJ he refuses to kill Vader because he senses conflict and sees the light still inside, but here he feels a darkness rising and he makes up his mind? :-?
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Re: OT: Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi 

Post#286 » by Oscirus » Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:22 am

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From what I gather, people are basically butthurt that Luke isnt an infallible Boy Scout and Rey doesn’t come from Star Wars royalty? You can’t complain about characters not developing then complain about a Luke who is way more interesting

Also the whole purpose of that Finn sub plot is to get him on board and truly open is eyes about what’s taking place. We also get DJ introduced and there’s no doubt the casino Casablanca arms dealers **** will be a factor in the third movie


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You can't ignore the development of a character that's been built up over years and then suddenly change it just to shock the audience.

Finn already knows whats taking place, he was a storm trooper he knows what the first order is capable of. And the class speech was handled better by Lando in a shorter amount of time. As for Dj's introduction and the arm dealers? If they were so important to the third part, they could've been introduced then through Maz. Only purpose of the casino subplot was to give Finn something to do since the director clearly didn't know how to handle him.
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Re: OT: Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi 

Post#287 » by IllmaticHandler » Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:22 am

Oscirus wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:
Oscirus wrote:
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The book Before the Force shows us that Finn was a bad ass. I believe he was the top 1 percent among all Stormtroopers and would've been promoted if not for his empathetic feelings. Considering,that and the fact that he caught Phasma from behind, it's not too crazy to see how he was able to defeat her.


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The fight was pretty lackluster, though.

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I don't think Rian is good at staging fights which is likely why we have our first star wars without a real light saber duel.



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My dude,white Storm Troopers are NOT elite combat fighters. So him being in the top 1% means nothing really. He is not even the level of a shadow stormtrooper or crimson gaurd. Which it would take at minimum, to take to take her down. Finn has NEVER showed Elite combat skils. Did you forget he was BEATEN by a REGULAR stormtrooper in FA? He was not skilled enough to beat her or catch her off guard.


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Re: OT: Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi 

Post#288 » by Smash3 » Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:22 am

Fury wrote:
Smash3 wrote:
Fury wrote:
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From what I gather, people are basically butthurt that Luke isnt an infallible Boy Scout and Rey doesn’t come from Star Wars royalty? You can’t complain about characters not developing then complain about a Luke who is way more interesting

Also the whole purpose of that Finn sub plot is to get him on board and truly open is eyes about what’s taking place. We also get DJ introduced and there’s no doubt the casino Casablanca arms dealers **** will be a factor in the third movie


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The Luke part is just schitty/flawed writing, how are you calling people buthurt for a character doing a 180 in his reasonings and actions? It’s not like he got jaded or went through anything crazy before he became cool with killing teenagers in their sleep.


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you make it sound like he cocked back the lightsaber and was in the process of doing it. The way he explained it it was just a quick flash in his mind. I’ll have to rewatch what else he says but why would Luke want to deal with another Darth Vader? He ain’t a young idealistic kid anymore. That makes the entire movie bad?! That’s what I mean about “OH LUKE WOULDNT DO THAT! EVERYTHING SUCKS!


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:lol: He literally cocked back the lightsaber and then decided not to do it, but my point stands if he was successful being his idealistic self there's no reason for him to do a 180 just because he got older.

But :lol: you sound butthurt for me saying this was a trash movie, I pointed out some SW stuff that made no sense, now the movie itself was bad because:

* Almost no story progression and movie was at least 30 min too long with filler scenes:

- Movie started off with rebels being on the run, to slow speed chase, to rebels being on the run again

- Rey got to the island, did a lot of walking, held it down for one meditation session and was out

- Luke said he was out, confessed to what really happened with Kylo, tried to burn the books and made a cameo appearance towards the end

- Finn got sent on a pointless side mission, you want to say they introduced a cool character in that weapons trader cool, but it could have been done much better.

- A lot of forced jokes

Movie was basically; Rey got the books, Snoke who was never really that much in the movies will now not be in the movies, Luke who was originally on a island is kind of on a island? Kylo is still a little whiny b.itch – the end.
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Re: OT: Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi 

Post#289 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:24 am

Smash3 wrote:
Fury wrote:
Smash3 wrote:
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The Luke part is just schitty/flawed writing, how are you calling people buthurt for a character doing a 180 in his reasonings and actions? It’s not like he got jaded or went through anything crazy before he became cool with killing teenagers in their sleep.


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you make it sound like he cocked back the lightsaber and was in the process of doing it. The way he explained it it was just a quick flash in his mind. I’ll have to rewatch what else he says but why would Luke want to deal with another Darth Vader? He ain’t a young idealistic kid anymore. That makes the entire movie bad?! That’s what I mean about “OH LUKE WOULDNT DO THAT! EVERYTHING SUCKS!


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:lol: He literally cocked back the lightsaber and then decided not to do it, but my point stands if he was successful being his idealistic self there's no reason for him to do a 180 just because he got older.

But :lol: you sound butthurt for me saying this was a trash movie, I pointed out some SW stuff that made no sense, now the movie itself was bad because:

* Almost no story progression and movie was at least 30 min to long with filler scenes:

- Movie started off with rebels being on the run to slow speed chase to rebels being on the run

- Rey got to the island, did a lot of walking, held it down for one meditation session and was out

- Luke said he was out, confessed to what really happened with Kylo, tried to burn the books and made a cameo appearance towards the end

- Fin got sent on a pointless side mission, you want to say they introduced a cool character in that weapons trader cool, but it could have been done much better.

- A lot of forced jokes

Movie was basically; Rey got the books, Snoke who was never really that much in the movies will now not be in the movies, Luke who was originally on a island is kind of on a island? Kylo is still a little whiny b.itch – the end.


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Serkis also said that Snoke is more powerful than Palpatine.........what?
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Re: OT: Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi 

Post#290 » by Fury » Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:24 am

Knickstape1214 wrote:
Fury wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:
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Pretty sure all that was said was that Luke saw / sensed darkness (rising) in Ben and that was enough because he was afraid of what would happen. Luke would never do that. Dude was trying to get Caedus / Jacen to turn back to the good even AFTER killing Mara Jade in the old canon. We don't know why the darkness was there, what prompted it, what Snoke did to get to Ben, what happened to the people Ben took with him, who else he killed (teachers? students? what?), why he didn't try to talk with him, etc. Leia and Han's son is becoming darker...so...Luke should kill him? Like...what...?He even pulled Vader back and refused to kill him.



Ill, I knew we'd feel the same way.


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its a solid point but you can’t stress about the books when it comes to films. We know this from watching super hero movies.


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Even the movies. ROTJ he refuses to kill Vader because he senses conflict and sees the light still inside, but here he feels a darkness rising and he makes up his mind? :-?


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he almost killed him then decided against it (Darth Vader). Here he didn’t even make up his mind! Like a quick thought. If his light saber had a silencer Kylo Ren would still be knocked out.
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Re: OT: Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi 

Post#291 » by Oscirus » Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:26 am

IllmaticHandler wrote:
Oscirus wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:
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The fight was pretty lackluster, though.

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I don't think Rian is good at staging fights which is likely why we have our first star wars without a real light saber duel.



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My dude,white Storm Troopers are NOT elite combat fighters. So him being in the top 1% means nothing. He is not even the level of a shadow stormtrooper. Which it would take at minimum, to take to take her down. Finn has NEVER showed Elite combat skils. Did you forget he was BEATEN by a REGULAR stormtrooper in FA? He was not skilled enough to beat her or catch her off guard.




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:lol: Crazy part is that he actually beat that very stormtrooper in the book. No idea why Abrams had him lose the second time they fought. And he did hold his own against Kylo for like a minute. So I guess there's that?
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Re: OT: Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi 

Post#292 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:27 am

Fury wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:
Fury wrote:
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its a solid point but you can’t stress about the books when it comes to films. We know this from watching super hero movies.


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Even the movies. ROTJ he refuses to kill Vader because he senses conflict and sees the light still inside, but here he feels a darkness rising and he makes up his mind? :-?


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he almost killed him then decided against it (Darth Vader). Here he didn’t even make up his mind! Like a quick thought. If his light saber had a silencer Kylo Ren would still be knocked out.


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He was standing over Ben with a lightsaber. He choked in the end, but the fact that it got that far after we've known Luke as someone who saw the light in the darkest of people is absurd. He didn't ask Ben about what was bothering him / what he was feeling the way he felt, he went straight to kill mode. Again, after refusing to kill Vader because he sensed the light and conflict within, you don't see a problem with him handling the Ben situation the way he did? IIRC, when Luke was captured by Vader in ROTJ (?) he told him that he still sensed good in him. Where was that optimism here?
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Re: OT: Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi 

Post#293 » by Fury » Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:29 am

Smash3 wrote:
Fury wrote:
Smash3 wrote:
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The Luke part is just schitty/flawed writing, how are you calling people buthurt for a character doing a 180 in his reasonings and actions? It’s not like he got jaded or went through anything crazy before he became cool with killing teenagers in their sleep.


Spoiler:
you make it sound like he cocked back the lightsaber and was in the process of doing it. The way he explained it it was just a quick flash in his mind. I’ll have to rewatch what else he says but why would Luke want to deal with another Darth Vader? He ain’t a young idealistic kid anymore. That makes the entire movie bad?! That’s what I mean about “OH LUKE WOULDNT DO THAT! EVERYTHING SUCKS!


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:lol: He literally cocked back the lightsaber and then decided not to do it, but my point stands if he was successful being his idealistic self there's no reason for him to do a 180 just because he got older.

But :lol: you sound butthurt for me saying this was a trash movie, I pointed out some SW stuff that made no sense, now the movie itself was bad because:

* Almost no story progression and movie was at least 30 min too long with filler scenes:

- Movie started off with rebels being on the run, to slow speed chase, to rebels being on the run again

- Rey got to the island, did a lot of walking, held it down for one meditation session and was out

- Luke said he was out, confessed to what really happened with Kylo, tried to burn the books and made a cameo appearance towards the end

- Finn got sent on a pointless side mission, you want to say they introduced a cool character in that weapons trader cool, but it could have been done much better.

- A lot of forced jokes

Movie was basically; Rey got the books, Snoke who was never really that much in the movies will now not be in the movies, Luke who was originally on a island is kind of on a island? Kylo is still a little whiny b.itch – the end.


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everything paid off at the end (with Finn and Poe and Rey). Movie was pretty long but a lot of it wasn’t filler. This wasn’t the final chapter.

Did you miss the whole Luke Yoda scene?

Jokes weren’t forced imo. Star Wars is usually pretty bad with humor, decent here.

Forget snoke man, he was just there to move kylo ren’s character. And yes he’s a whiny bitch just like all Darth Vader was is super bad ass.
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Re: OT: Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi 

Post#294 » by Fury » Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:32 am

Knickstape1214 wrote:
Fury wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:
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Even the movies. ROTJ he refuses to kill Vader because he senses conflict and sees the light still inside, but here he feels a darkness rising and he makes up his mind? :-?


Spoiler:
he almost killed him then decided against it (Darth Vader). Here he didn’t even make up his mind! Like a quick thought. If his light saber had a silencer Kylo Ren would still be knocked out.


Spoiler:
He was standing over Ben with a lightsaber. He choked in the end, but the fact that it got that far after we've known Luke as someone who saw the light in the darkest of people is absurd. He didn't ask Ben about what was bothering him / what he was feeling the way he felt, he went straight to kill mode. Again, after refusing to kill Vader because he sensed the light and conflict within, you don't see a problem with him handling the Ben situation the way he did? IIRC, when Luke was captured by Vader in ROTJ (?) he told him that he still sensed good in him. Where was that optimism here?


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well, didn’t he say he saw some **** that was awful? He’s not the same guy, being at an older age. Could’ve been out of character but it’s someone we haven’t revisited in a while so I don’t think just to think about it is inconceivable.
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Re: OT: Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi 

Post#295 » by Manhattan Project » Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:33 am

I enjoyed it, but I'm also not a die hard Star Wars guys. Yeah there were parts that make you with question some things a bit, but overall the force is the force. Porg was cool, but no love for the Crystal Fox? I thought the entire last Luke scene was pretty damn cool, enjoyed every second of that.
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Re: OT: Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi 

Post#296 » by Fury » Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:35 am

Manhattan Project wrote:I enjoyed it, but I'm also not a die hard Star Wars guys. Yeah there were parts that make you with question some things a bit, but overall the force is the force. Porg was cool, but no love for the Crystal Fox? I thought the entire last Luke scene was pretty damn cool, enjoyed every second of that.


That last luke scene was dope as **** and yeah I liked the crystal critters too. Glad all that camera work on them led to something
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Re: OT: Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi 

Post#297 » by IllmaticHandler » Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:37 am

Oscirus wrote:
IllmaticHandler wrote:
Oscirus wrote:
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I don't think Rian is good at staging fights which is likely why we have our first star wars without a real light saber duel.



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My dude,white Storm Troopers are NOT elite combat fighters. So him being in the top 1% means nothing. He is not even the level of a shadow stormtrooper. Which it would take at minimum, to take to take her down. Finn has NEVER showed Elite combat skils. Did you forget he was BEATEN by a REGULAR stormtrooper in FA? He was not skilled enough to beat her or catch her off guard.




Spoiler:
:lol: Crazy part is that he actually beat that very stormtrooper in the book. No idea why Abrams had him lose the second time they fought. And he did hold his own against Kylo for like a minute. So I guess there's that?


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I did not read FA book...but there is no dancing around it. Phasma is to Elite to be taken down by Finn, deep down you that to be true. Remember when Anakin first fought Dooku? what happened cause he was not skilled enough? Are we supposed to reaaaaaallly think Finn can hang with her? Also Finn holding it down against Kylo is fluff as well. Kylo is a Buns fighter, it doesn't mean much. If that was Dooku, Maul, Assaj Ventress, General Grevious etc....Finn would have been chopped Live in no time. I mean Kylo Ren got beat up by a chick who NEVER used a saber before in combat :lol:. Ren has fought nobodies to date.
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Re: OT: Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi 

Post#298 » by shtolky » Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:48 am

Knickstape1214 wrote:
Fury wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:
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Even the movies. ROTJ he refuses to kill Vader because he senses conflict and sees the light still inside, but here he feels a darkness rising and he makes up his mind? :-?


Spoiler:
he almost killed him then decided against it (Darth Vader). Here he didn’t even make up his mind! Like a quick thought. If his light saber had a silencer Kylo Ren would still be knocked out.


Spoiler:
He was standing over Ben with a lightsaber. He choked in the end, but the fact that it got that far after we've known Luke as someone who saw the light in the darkest of people is absurd. He didn't ask Ben about what was bothering him / what he was feeling the way he felt, he went straight to kill mode. Again, after refusing to kill Vader because he sensed the light and conflict within, you don't see a problem with him handling the Ben situation the way he did? IIRC, when Luke was captured by Vader in ROTJ (?) he told him that he still sensed good in him. Where was that optimism here?



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I think you're missing the point of that scene and Luke's character in general. First, he states to Vader that he feels the good in him, the conflict. He mentions this at least four times in the movie, twice to Vader, once to Obi-Wan, once to Leia. In TLJ, in that scene with Ben, he EXPLICITLY states that ALL he felt was darkness, that Snoke had already poisoned his mind, that there was no going back for Ben. If you listen closely you can even hear people screaming out and dying. Luke didn't want this to be his greatest failure. And yet even after that, he felt shame for even thinking of killing Ben. He says the thought "passed as quickly as a shadow" and he talks of feeling shame for this. By the time Ben woke up it was too late to fix it, and we know what happens. The temple burns, Luke is at a breaking point with the Jedi, and he exiles himself (Yoda did the same thing). (Also, I point out, it was JJ who stuck Luke on that island, not Rian). That, coupled with the fact that for some reason people are forgetting just how impulsive Luke was and is. In Empire, he defies Yoda and goes to Cloud City and loses, putting his friends in greater peril. In Jedi, he nearly kills his own father even AFTER sensing the good in him. Only after seeing his machine hand does he pull back. And in Jedi again, he waltzes into Jabba's palace and thinks he can wreck **** up and yet he ends up with the Rancor and miraculously escapes. This is Luke's character. This is why he exiled himself, because he failed...failure is a huge part of this movie and Yoda even says to him that failure is our greatest teacher. I feel strongly that people didn't like this movie because of preconceived notions as to what we should have seen, such as a lightsaber battle, or Rey being related for some reason to a Kenobi or Skywalker, or Snoke being someone other than just an **** who was Kylo Ren's master, or Luke going all super Jedi and killing everyone. Maybe Rian Johnson went too filmy with this one, too much subtext, not enough familiarity, but that's exactly what people complained about with TFA. To me, they handled Luke's character perfectly and gave him the best possible ending. TLJ is as much about his redemption and newfound status as a true legend (see the last scene) as anything else.
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Re: OT: Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi 

Post#299 » by IllmaticHandler » Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:54 am

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You can say what you what you want about the Prequels, but GL gave you some of the Most Badass Villians in the whole Saga. What do we get in this Trilogy so far? A weak Ren...A Weak Phasma. A Trash Snook. Smh. :lol:
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Re: OT: Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi 

Post#300 » by Spree2Houston » Wed Dec 20, 2017 4:09 am

It's becoming evident to me that Disney has some of these critics and movie sites on their payroll. There is major damage control going on right now by fan sites and critics. Rogue one was the superior movie over Force Awakens and earned a higher or equal grade on sites like Rotten Tomatoes and IMBD. Yet, Critics are claiming both Force Awakens and Last Jedi were the superior movies. They had to earn a higher grade. The two movies couldn't be out done by a spinoff movie. It's not a good look.

I'm glad there's an outrage over this movie. It's going to atleast show Disney that you can't just force people to like your movies and push your social agendas because the Critics and fan sites love it.

LET IT BURN

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