PG Knicks @ Nuggets - 4 L's in a Row

[2010]

FIRE EVERYONE!!!!!!

Seriously, what will that change? Nothing. But, all of you are not looking outward at what this FO did. There's flexibility in how the roster can change. Will a panic trade do anything this season for this team? No, because they're not chasing a Play-In spot, nor should they. This season went backwards on them, so what's the point of staying in the middle if they're not among the top 6? I bet they will make a trade, but more toward next season and beyond. They shouldn't panic that this season went badly because they should admit they made a mistake on their specific moves that took away what made this team special last season.

If anything, they still have a good young core to mold, and draft picks. Smart FO personnel would not panic, not do a complete sell job, but shift gears to next season.

A smarter one would just let them suck this year and next and add even more young talent.

I don’t trust this dummy line to make the right picks when drafting in the lottery.

[Deeeez Knicks]

I don't think Rose did a bad job. He's been on this for 2 years. You expected him to roster a championship title team in 2 years? That's too optimistic. He took what was given and did something out of it. GMs almost always don't get what they want, but they try to make it work.

Rose started off fine, but last offseason looks really bad right now. He made some bad choices that will have a long term impact. Just a really bad sign they made those choices. They pretty much have to find a way to get rid of all the guys they just signed, then move on from Thibs and not sure they will be able to do any of that...or if they even want to

I don't know that Rose can recover from this off-season. He'd have some bullets left if these guys were tradeable contracts, but, as usual, the Knicks either (a) signed dead meat (Kemba and Noel is getting into this range) or (b) overpaid mediocre vets (Randle and Fournier)

If he didn't sign Kemba or Noel, did not prematurely extend Randle, then he'd be able to weather overpaying Fournier

Plus, signing Kemba and Fournier made us atrocious defensively which was the primary reason we were able to compete last season, so that was the other step backwards

PG by Committee was a very bad decision

If Rose doesn't pull something out of his hat by tomorrow we shouldn't be surprised if Dolan moves him out and has someone else handle this upcoming off-season

Agree, I am not sure how Rose recovers from this. To get out of these deals, we pretty much have to accept we will be bad for a little while we recover. Not sure Rose will have the balls to do a reset at this point. He probably does not have time to switch at this point since he already committed....Still I think Rose will get at least 1 or 2 more years. Thibs will be the first fall guy.

This is the scary part when the clock is ticking and they feel the pressure....they will be tempted by bad trades for immediate results that can jeopardize the future.

[WargamesX]

Rose started off fine, but last offseason looks really bad right now. He made some bad choices that will have a long term impact. Just a really bad sign they made those choices. They pretty much have to find a way to get rid of all the guys they just signed, then move on from Thibs and not sure they will be able to do any of that...or if they even want to

I don't know that Rose can recover from this off-season. He'd have some bullets left if these guys were tradeable contracts, but, as usual, the Knicks either (a) signed dead meat (Kemba and Noel is getting into this range) or (b) overpaid mediocre vets (Randle and Fournier)

If he didn't sign Kemba or Noel, did not prematurely extend Randle, then he'd be able to weather overpaying Fournier

Plus, signing Kemba and Fournier made us atrocious defensively which was the primary reason we were able to compete last season, so that was the other step backwards

PG by Committee was a very bad decision

If Rose doesn't pull something out of his hat by tomorrow we shouldn't be surprised if Dolan moves him out and has someone else handle this upcoming off-season

Agree, I am not sure how Rose recovers from this. To get out of these deals, we pretty much have to accept we will be bad for a little while we recover. Not sure Rose will have the balls to do a reset at this point. He probably does not have time to switch at this point since he already committed....Still I think Rose will get at least 1 or 2 more years. Thibs will be the first fall guy.

This is the scary part when the clock is ticking and they feel the pressure....they will be tempted by bad trades for immediate results that can jeopardize the future.

The real loss is that as these short term vets contracts come off the books Mitch, RJ and Cam will have been extended or given new contracts. That cap space is gone, and the only way to add talent will be the draft and trades.

[thebuzzardman]

FIRE EVERYONE!!!!!!

Seriously, what will that change? Nothing. But, all of you are not looking outward at what this FO did. There's flexibility in how the roster can change. Will a panic trade do anything this season for this team? No, because they're not chasing a Play-In spot, nor should they. This season went backwards on them, so what's the point of staying in the middle if they're not among the top 6? I bet they will make a trade, but more toward next season and beyond. They shouldn't panic that this season went badly because they should admit they made a mistake on their specific moves that took away what made this team special last season.

If anything, they still have a good young core to mold, and draft picks. Smart FO personnel would not panic, not do a complete sell job, but shift gears to next season.

A smarter one would just let them suck this year and next and add even more young talent.

I don’t trust this dummy line to make the right picks when drafting in the lottery.

Obi, IQ, Grimes, McBride,Cam (via the Dallas 2021 pick)

Yeah. I'd rather someone else makes the picks.

I thought Walt Perrin is supposed to be good. Maybe he is but no one listens to him.
Anyway, this FO sucks at both drafting AND pro player scouting.
They can go. Sooner the better.

Actually, I don't really care anymore. They can stay for 30 more years. I'm done. Just here for the laffs now.

[2010]

A smarter one would just let them suck this year and next and add even more young talent.

I don’t trust this dummy line to make the right picks when drafting in the lottery.

Obi, IQ, Grimes, McBride,Cam (via the Dallas 2021 pick)

Yeah. I'd rather someone else makes the picks.

I thought Walt Perrin is supposed to be good. Maybe he is but no one listens to him.
Anyway, this FO sucks at both drafting AND pro player scouting.
They can go. Sooner the better.

Actually, I don't really care anymore. They can stay for 30 more years. I'm done. Just here for the laffs now.

They are decent drafting late. But they suck at the lottery.

[WargamesX]

I don’t trust this dummy line to make the right picks when drafting in the lottery.

Obi, IQ, Grimes, McBride,Cam (via the Dallas 2021 pick)

Yeah. I'd rather someone else makes the picks.

I thought Walt Perrin is supposed to be good. Maybe he is but no one listens to him.
Anyway, this FO sucks at both drafting AND pro player scouting.
They can go. Sooner the better.

Actually, I don't really care anymore. They can stay for 30 more years. I'm done. Just here for the laffs now.

They are decent drafting late. But they suck at the lottery.

They are very good at drafting high floor guys they have issues when it comes to identifying high ceiling players who will actually reach their ceiling. Basically they can’t identify viable potential.

[Jalen Bluntson]

A smarter one would just let them suck this year and next and add even more young talent.

I don’t trust this dummy line to make the right picks when drafting in the lottery.

Obi, IQ, Grimes, McBride,Cam (via the CHA pick)

Yeah. I'd rather someone else makes the picks.

I thought Walt Perrin is supposed to be good. Maybe he is but no one listens to him.
Anyway, this FO sucks at both drafting AND pro player scouting.
They can go. Sooner the better.

Actually, I don't really care anymore. They can stay for 30 more years. I'm done. Just here for the laffs now.

Fixed

If by laughs you mean reasons to be disgusted...then laughing...yeah. Comedy Central!

[prophet_of_rage]

He’s really becoming the most hated athlete in NY. This is why they kept him from talking to the media.

He’s Marbury 2.0 and they know it.

Why did Knicks fans hate Marbury

Not all of us hated Steph.

We surrounded him with garbage. Then got upset when he couldn't lead us to the promised land. Same with Melo, except Melo put himself in that position. We ended up hating him for not being Lebron.

We as fans get what we deserve. We don't root for our players. We root for ourselves. Our entire identity revolves around stripping and beating athletes down for the world to see. Because apparently, we are "tough NYers" or something. Eli won us 2 superbowls (in spectacular fashion, mind you) and we still killed him. This is what we do.

People are reading that new book that's out lamenting the fact that Pat Riley chose to leave this joyless and illusory hellscape, when they forget that he himself called out the viciousness of the fans back when they were torturing Charles Smith every time he touched the ball.

I can't stop being a fan of this team, that's just how I'm coded. I love the Knicks, but I despise "Knicks fan culture." Even if if we somehow miraculously win a title in the near future, a whole, whole lot of this "fan" base will not deserve it.

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[Clyde_Style]

Rose started off fine, but last offseason looks really bad right now. He made some bad choices that will have a long term impact. Just a really bad sign they made those choices. They pretty much have to find a way to get rid of all the guys they just signed, then move on from Thibs and not sure they will be able to do any of that...or if they even want to

I don't know that Rose can recover from this off-season. He'd have some bullets left if these guys were tradeable contracts, but, as usual, the Knicks either (a) signed dead meat (Kemba and Noel is getting into this range) or (b) overpaid mediocre vets (Randle and Fournier)

If he didn't sign Kemba or Noel, did not prematurely extend Randle, then he'd be able to weather overpaying Fournier

Plus, signing Kemba and Fournier made us atrocious defensively which was the primary reason we were able to compete last season, so that was the other step backwards

PG by Committee was a very bad decision

If Rose doesn't pull something out of his hat by tomorrow we shouldn't be surprised if Dolan moves him out and has someone else handle this upcoming off-season

Agree, I am not sure how Rose recovers from this. To get out of these deals, we pretty much have to accept we will be bad for a little while we recover. Not sure Rose will have the balls to do a reset at this point. He probably does not have time to switch at this point since he already committed....Still I think Rose will get at least 1 or 2 more years. Thibs will be the first fall guy.

This is the scary part when the clock is ticking and they feel the pressure....they will be tempted by bad trades for immediate results that can jeopardize the future.

Their only out may be squandering our FRP to get out of these bad contracts, thereby neutering our biggest remaining advantage

But even then that would presume it is being done for the purpose of a rebuild which they are not interested in so it would probably only lead to more subsequent bad choices if they do unload our players by using our picks

Yeah, Rose backed himself into the corner. He's probably screwed. His supposed connections will need to be used now to salvage this, otherwise he's a goner

[moocow007]

Why did Knicks fans hate Marbury

Cause the same reason Knick fans hated Ewing towards the end of his time here, the same reason that Knick fans hated Carmelo Anthony, the same reason Knicks fans hate Randle...

Cause Ewing wasn't able to be this man...


Cause Marbury wasn't able to be this man...


Cause Carmelo wasn't able to be this man...


Cause Randle isn't able to be this man...

...or this man...

...or....

eh i think people hate randle because he hoodwinked the org. a lot of us hated randle before last season for exactly the same reasons we hate him now. this is part of why i blame him more than i blame thibs or the FO. it's rare for an org to make a ruthless move like calling randle's bluff after a storybook season. even i, a fan on a message board, felt the need to tiptoe around my suggestions that we trade him at a high.

i'll give them til the end of the offseason to pivot out of the mistake

People hate these guys because they aren't good enough to do what they want this team to do. And when that player isn't good enough, they pick him apart (like he's the only one that has flaws) cause they need some way to rationalize why that player isn't good enough...other than just because he's just not that good.

People can spin it however they want (personality this, dislikable that), at the end of the day none of these guys were good enough to take what for the most part were just gosh darn awful teams to anything. Ewing was the only guy if you look at it that actually had a consistently competitive team around him and he got the farthest. Carmelo was almost good enough in 2012-2013 when they actually put a team together that made sense and fit what he can and can't do and needed.

Michael Jordan was the biggest a-hole on the planet, gambled (likely on his own games and other games he played in...things that got Pete Rose banned) and you think Bulls fans cared about any of that? No. The Bad Boy Pistons and Red Auerbach Celtics championships teams had some of the most dislikeable and despicable players on the planet at the time and you think Pistons and Celtics fans cared? No they didn't. Winning cures all things. What fans care about is winning. And that is what these guys have failed to do...lead this team to something meaningful.

Now is that the fault of the player? I can't see how you can possibly blame a player for being not good enough to be able to take crap and win with it. The player doesn't put the team together and unless you are that MJ or Lebron level type player you need a team with some serious talent and balance to win. So unless we want to accuse Randle for putting this team together (I mean we already blamed Carmelo Anthony the GM for that Denver trade right?) it's the fault of the front office for not being able to build a team. And it's the fault of the fans for having unrealistic expectations.

Randle didn't really "hoodwink" anyone though. Folks that were expecting too much (remember the "MVP" chants last season? I was lol'ing and eye-rolling when fans were chanting that cause I knew he wasn't an MVP caliber player, not even close...and yet...fans...gotta love them) and that set unrealistic expectations hoodwinked themselves when these guys failed to do what they should have never been expected to be able to do. He's just not good enough to take one of the least talented teams in the NBA that doesn't have a PG (not even one that would be the backup PG on any of the other 29 teams).

[Deeeez Knicks]

By golly, all we need to do is cheer for the team and we will be great. Let's all smile, hold hands and sing kumbaya at the game. There will be puppy dogs, rainbows and championships if we as fans can just get it together

[Clyde_Style]

I don't know that Rose can recover from this off-season. He'd have some bullets left if these guys were tradeable contracts, but, as usual, the Knicks either (a) signed dead meat (Kemba and Noel is getting into this range) or (b) overpaid mediocre vets (Randle and Fournier)

If he didn't sign Kemba or Noel, did not prematurely extend Randle, then he'd be able to weather overpaying Fournier

Plus, signing Kemba and Fournier made us atrocious defensively which was the primary reason we were able to compete last season, so that was the other step backwards

PG by Committee was a very bad decision

If Rose doesn't pull something out of his hat by tomorrow we shouldn't be surprised if Dolan moves him out and has someone else handle this upcoming off-season

Agree, I am not sure how Rose recovers from this. To get out of these deals, we pretty much have to accept we will be bad for a little while we recover. Not sure Rose will have the balls to do a reset at this point. He probably does not have time to switch at this point since he already committed....Still I think Rose will get at least 1 or 2 more years. Thibs will be the first fall guy.

This is the scary part when the clock is ticking and they feel the pressure....they will be tempted by bad trades for immediate results that can jeopardize the future.

The real loss is that as these short term vets contracts come off the books Mitch, RJ and Cam will have been extended or given new contracts. That cap space is gone, and the only way to add talent will be the draft and trades.

Yeah, that's the other way they boxed themselves in. Their timeline was constructed based on locking in Randle and Fournier to long-term deals thus conveying their perception this was the best roster they could possibly construct in that timeframe. Those two deals were essentially admissions of their failure to attract better talent + basic idiocy at not knowing Randle was a head case with two years already here and a meltdown in the playoffs. I can live with Fournier, but Randle's extension is inexcusable

[G_K_F]

I’ve heard the same argument before.

Somehow it works when the rest of the league hires young coaches but when the Knicks hire one who sucks we should never do it again. Great logic.

The team is not good. The ‘core’ is not good. The mediocrity you speak of is this current roster - including the young players. if you want to continue to support and excuse trash that’s fine. But don’t act like it’s because you know more than someone else.

Difference is this is a huge market, so media can get real loud.

There's another Spoelstra or Taylor Jenkins or Nick Nurse or whatever ready to be hired. we're just too much of an incompetent franchise to find that person. We don't hire the right management which then bleeds into the coaching.

[Clyde_Style]

Cause the same reason Knick fans hated Ewing towards the end of his time here, the same reason that Knick fans hated Carmelo Anthony, the same reason Knicks fans hate Randle...

Cause Ewing wasn't able to be this man...


Cause Marbury wasn't able to be this man...


Cause Carmelo wasn't able to be this man...


Cause Randle isn't able to be this man...

...or this man...

...or....

eh i think people hate randle because he hoodwinked the org. a lot of us hated randle before last season for exactly the same reasons we hate him now. this is part of why i blame him more than i blame thibs or the FO. it's rare for an org to make a ruthless move like calling randle's bluff after a storybook season. even i, a fan on a message board, felt the need to tiptoe around my suggestions that we trade him at a high.

i'll give them til the end of the offseason to pivot out of the mistake

People hate these guys because they aren't good enough to do what they want this team to do. And when that player isn't good enough, they pick him apart (like he's the only one that has flaws) cause they need some way to rationalize why that player isn't good enough...other than just because he's just not that good.

People can spin it however they want (personality this, dislikable that), at the end of the day none of these guys were good enough to take what for the most part were just gosh darn awful teams to anything. Ewing was the only guy if you look at it that actually had a consistently competitive team around him and he got the farthest. Carmelo was almost good enough in 2012-2013 when they actually put a team together that made sense and fit what he can and can't do and needed.

Michael Jordan was the biggest a-hole on the planet, gambled (likely on his own games and other games he played in...things that got Pete Rose banned) and you think Bulls fans cared about any of that? No. The Bad Boy Pistons and Red Auerbach Celtics championships teams had some of the most dislikeable and despicable players on the planet at the time and you think Pistons and Celtics fans cared? No they didn't. Winning cures all things. What fans care about is winning. And that is what these guys have failed to do...lead this team to something meaningful.

Now is that the fault of the player? I can't see how you can possibly blame a player for being not good enough to be able to take crap and win with it. The player doesn't put the team together and unless you are that MJ or Lebron level type player you need a team with some serious talent and balance to win. So unless we want to accuse Randle for putting this team together (I mean we already blamed Carmelo Anthony the GM for that Denver trade right?) it's the fault of the front office for not being able to build a team. And it's the fault of the fans for having unrealistic expectations.

Randle didn't really "hoodwink" anyone though. Folks that were expecting too much and that set unrealistic expectations hoodwinked themselves when these guys failed to do what they should have never been expected to be able to do. He's just not good enough to take one of the least talented teams in the NBA that doesn't have a PG (not even one that would be the backup PG on any of the other 29 teams).

I predict you will recycle every possible permutation of "You're mad because he isn't MJ/Lebron" arguments for the next ten years

Try something else. Really, it's not working

[moocow007]

eh i think people hate randle because he hoodwinked the org. a lot of us hated randle before last season for exactly the same reasons we hate him now. this is part of why i blame him more than i blame thibs or the FO. it's rare for an org to make a ruthless move like calling randle's bluff after a storybook season. even i, a fan on a message board, felt the need to tiptoe around my suggestions that we trade him at a high.

i'll give them til the end of the offseason to pivot out of the mistake

People hate these guys because they aren't good enough to do what they want this team to do. And when that player isn't good enough, they pick him apart (like he's the only one that has flaws) cause they need some way to rationalize why that player isn't good enough...other than just because he's just not that good.

People can spin it however they want (personality this, dislikable that), at the end of the day none of these guys were good enough to take what for the most part were just gosh darn awful teams to anything. Ewing was the only guy if you look at it that actually had a consistently competitive team around him and he got the farthest. Carmelo was almost good enough in 2012-2013 when they actually put a team together that made sense and fit what he can and can't do and needed.

Michael Jordan was the biggest a-hole on the planet, gambled (likely on his own games and other games he played in...things that got Pete Rose banned) and you think Bulls fans cared about any of that? No. The Bad Boy Pistons and Red Auerbach Celtics championships teams had some of the most dislikeable and despicable players on the planet at the time and you think Pistons and Celtics fans cared? No they didn't. Winning cures all things. What fans care about is winning. And that is what these guys have failed to do...lead this team to something meaningful.

Now is that the fault of the player? I can't see how you can possibly blame a player for being not good enough to be able to take crap and win with it. The player doesn't put the team together and unless you are that MJ or Lebron level type player you need a team with some serious talent and balance to win. So unless we want to accuse Randle for putting this team together (I mean we already blamed Carmelo Anthony the GM for that Denver trade right?) it's the fault of the front office for not being able to build a team. And it's the fault of the fans for having unrealistic expectations.

Randle didn't really "hoodwink" anyone though. Folks that were expecting too much and that set unrealistic expectations hoodwinked themselves when these guys failed to do what they should have never been expected to be able to do. He's just not good enough to take one of the least talented teams in the NBA that doesn't have a PG (not even one that would be the backup PG on any of the other 29 teams).

I predict you will recycle every possible permutation of "You're mad because he isn't MJ/Lebron" arguments for the next ten years

Try something else. Really, it's not working

It isn't working cause you aren't willing to accept that that's the bottom line.

[moocow007]

I’ve heard the same argument before.

Somehow it works when the rest of the league hires young coaches but when the Knicks hire one who sucks we should never do it again. Great logic.

The team is not good. The ‘core’ is not good. The mediocrity you speak of is this current roster - including the young players. if you want to continue to support and excuse trash that’s fine. But don’t act like it’s because you know more than someone else.

Difference is this is a huge market, so media can get real loud.

There's another Spoelstra or Taylor Jenkins or Nick Nurse or whatever ready to be hired. we're just too much of an incompetent franchise to find that person. We don't hire the right management which then bleeds into the coaching.

Pretty much. The Knicks have traditionally looked for "names" rather than "fit" and "need". Consistently the Knicks front office has failed to build teams that can win. Don't need to go much further for proof than...oh...what I was just talking about. Ewing with a bunch of role players when MJ was ruling the world, Marbury with...Eddy Curry and Steve "Colt 45" Francis? lol, Carmelo with JR Smith (broke back Stat and 2 weeks of Linsanity?) and now Randle with not even a backup PG and still one of the least balanced and talented teams in the NBA.

[spree2kawhi]

FIRE EVERYONE!!!!!!

Seriously, what will that change? Nothing. But, all of you are not looking outward at what this FO did. There's flexibility in how the roster can change. Will a panic trade do anything this season for this team? No, because they're not chasing a Play-In spot, nor should they. This season went backwards on them, so what's the point of staying in the middle if they're not among the top 6? I bet they will make a trade, but more toward next season and beyond. They shouldn't panic that this season went badly because they should admit they made a mistake on their specific moves that took away what made this team special last season.

If anything, they still have a good young core to mold, and draft picks. Smart FO personnel would not panic, not do a complete sell job, but shift gears to next season.

This post is completely uncalled for, no offense man. Plus, I see a mediocre young core at best.

[Clyde_Style]

People hate these guys because they aren't good enough to do what they want this team to do. And when that player isn't good enough, they pick him apart (like he's the only one that has flaws) cause they need some way to rationalize why that player isn't good enough...other than just because he's just not that good.

People can spin it however they want (personality this, dislikable that), at the end of the day none of these guys were good enough to take what for the most part were just gosh darn awful teams to anything. Ewing was the only guy if you look at it that actually had a consistently competitive team around him and he got the farthest. Carmelo was almost good enough in 2012-2013 when they actually put a team together that made sense and fit what he can and can't do and needed.

Michael Jordan was the biggest a-hole on the planet, gambled (likely on his own games and other games he played in...things that got Pete Rose banned) and you think Bulls fans cared about any of that? No. The Bad Boy Pistons and Red Auerbach Celtics championships teams had some of the most dislikeable and despicable players on the planet at the time and you think Pistons and Celtics fans cared? No they didn't. Winning cures all things. What fans care about is winning. And that is what these guys have failed to do...lead this team to something meaningful.

Now is that the fault of the player? I can't see how you can possibly blame a player for being not good enough to be able to take crap and win with it. The player doesn't put the team together and unless you are that MJ or Lebron level type player you need a team with some serious talent and balance to win. So unless we want to accuse Randle for putting this team together (I mean we already blamed Carmelo Anthony the GM for that Denver trade right?) it's the fault of the front office for not being able to build a team. And it's the fault of the fans for having unrealistic expectations.

Randle didn't really "hoodwink" anyone though. Folks that were expecting too much and that set unrealistic expectations hoodwinked themselves when these guys failed to do what they should have never been expected to be able to do. He's just not good enough to take one of the least talented teams in the NBA that doesn't have a PG (not even one that would be the backup PG on any of the other 29 teams).

I predict you will recycle every possible permutation of "You're mad because he isn't MJ/Lebron" arguments for the next ten years

Try something else. Really, it's not working

It isn't working cause you aren't willing to accept that that's the bottom line.

For you and maybe a few others

Throw up a poll that asks:

Are you disappointed in Randle because:

(a) He's not as good as last season
(b) He hoodwinked us
(c) He's a jerk
(d) He's lazy
(e) He's a ball hog
(f) He's a stat padder
(g) He's a choke artist
(h) He's disrespectful of the fans, coaches and his teammates
(i) He's not Lebron

and you'll be in a tiny minority

Saying someone is disparaged because they are not Lebron or MJ is one of the all-time worst arguments ever used on this forum

[HarthorneWingo]

Westbrook trade incoming. lol

[moocow007]

FIRE EVERYONE!!!!!!

Seriously, what will that change? Nothing. But, all of you are not looking outward at what this FO did. There's flexibility in how the roster can change. Will a panic trade do anything this season for this team? No, because they're not chasing a Play-In spot, nor should they. This season went backwards on them, so what's the point of staying in the middle if they're not among the top 6? I bet they will make a trade, but more toward next season and beyond. They shouldn't panic that this season went badly because they should admit they made a mistake on their specific moves that took away what made this team special last season.

If anything, they still have a good young core to mold, and draft picks. Smart FO personnel would not panic, not do a complete sell job, but shift gears to next season.

A smarter one would just let them suck this year and next and add even more young talent.

I don’t trust this dummy line to make the right picks when drafting in the lottery.

Yeah I'm dubious at best about their ability to make the right picks as well.