Woj: Knicks trade for Alec Burks and Bojan Bogdanovich

[NY2k1]

Bojan and Alec are 2 useful players but I can't believe we just traded Grimes and picks for 2 ageing and declining non defenders after the Kemba and Evan experience. This better not end up like another Reddish,Fournier, Walker or even the last year of Rose where we spend money or assets just to have Thibs glue them to the bench and kill what value they have left because he does not trust them or their defense.

That's my only worry as well. I'm hoping Thibs gave his thumbs up to the trade as well.

That said, Alec is a decent defender, though.

[Butch718]

Knicks now have 5 guys shooting 41+% from 3. That is huge.

They also added 2 additional shot creators which they sorely needed. Any teams with notions of hard doubling Brunson once he gets past half court like the Lakers did the other night was short lived.

[spree8]

Anyone that’s hating on this deal over Quentin Grimes does not know ball.

Burks is going to swing over to the 2 and play the 1 occasionally. It gives the team depth and allows Thibs to spread the minutes around and not burn out certain players. Also, Bojan and Burks are being put in a much better position, and a much better system. They gave up no 1st rounders, and still managed to improve the team once again.

This is a fantastic trade, that actually gives us pieces that other teams might covet once we pull the trade and add another star player.

lol That’s some bs. Grimes plays defense better than Burks so we lose there. Burks is also a FA after this season so we lose there. Grimes is also significantly younger than Burks and has a higher ceiling. He also has much higher trade value for a star trade because Burks has zero since he’s a FA.

I wanted us to get Bogey for quite a while because of reasons like injuries to Randle (check my posts), but this was too high a price imo, and he won’t have the kinda value Grimes would in a star player trade. There’s positives to it… depth, firepower, experience, shooting, but I just think the cost was too high.

Especially when you factor in that we paid Detroit to take Burks already, gifted them Jalen Duren, now we’re gifting them Grimes. From a value standpoint… it’s not a genius move by any stretch and stinks of poor negotiating to me. It’ll still do some good for us, but the cost was too much.

[seren]

I am very bad at embedding tweets. Belgey says OG injury uncertainty was a big factor for trades. If so, it makes the trade look even worse. Both players we got are net negative on defensive end and we gave up our best perimeter defender in the deal.

[Grinditout]

Leon better get that superstar this off-season. I'll admit he's done a pretty good job improving the team while keeping the 1st rounders.

I'm equally excited for this off season as I am for the playoffs.

[dakomish23]

As someone who has watched Bojan's NBA career from day one, let me be very clear:

This man has the dog in him. He will be a massive plus to this roster offensively and won't disrupt the pecking order.

I also asked about Alex Burks a few weeks back if anyone had any interest, because he'd be a good rotation fit. Looks like Leon was already ten steps ahead.

This is a massive, massive trade for this roster, and once everyone is 100% I think the Knicks are a legitimate title contender.

I'm happy yall, I loved Bojan so to be able to root for him on the Knicks is amazing.

Leon Rose is executive of the year. No questions.

He was great in BKN! I used to post his stats in the around the NBA thread. I'm so excited to add him. Professional scorer who definitely has got that f u mentality. I love it. I think he's the 3rd best scorer on the team day 1

[MrDollarBills]

Bojan and Alec are 2 useful players but I can't believe we just traded Grimes and picks for 2 ageing and declining non defenders after the Kemba and Evan experience. This better not end up like another Reddish,Fournier, Walker or even the last year of Rose where we spend money or assets just to have Thibs glue them to the bench and kill what value they have left because he does not trust them or their defense.

Bojan is a 20ppg scorer that can space and his game is aging gracefully

This isn't a Kemba situation. Bojan is a flat out hooper.

Watch. I said the same thing about Donte, and I was right. Sit back and enjoy Brunson dominating with this squad.

[Butch718]

Anyone that’s hating on this deal over Quentin Grimes does not know ball.

Burks is going to swing over to the 2 and play the 1 occasionally. It gives the team depth and allows Thibs to spread the minutes around and not burn out certain players. Also, Bojan and Burks are being put in a much better position, and a much better system. They gave up no 1st rounders, and still managed to improve the team once again.

This is a fantastic trade, that actually gives us pieces that other teams might covet once we pull the trade and add another star player.

lol That’s some bs. Grimes plays defense better than Burks so we lose there. Burks is also a FA after this season so we lose there. Grimes is also significantly younger than Burks and has a higher ceiling. He also has much higher trade value for a star trade because Burks has zero since he’s a FA.

I wanted us to get Bogey for quite a while because of reasons like injuries to Randle (check my posts), but this was too high a price imo, and he won’t have the kinda value Grimes would in a star player trade. There’s positives to it… depth, firepower, experience, shooting, but I just think the cost was too high.

Especially when you factor in that we paid Detroit to take Burks already, gifted them Jalen Duren, now we’re gifting them Grimes. From a value standpoint… it’s not a genius move by any stretch and stinks of poor negotiating to me. It’ll still do some good for us, but the cost was too much.

Y’all really overrate Grimes…

This is such an awful take.

[F N 11]

This trade makes me think Randle/OG injury situation might be worse than they say.

And Randle because Thibs malfunctions in crowded rotation

[3toheadmelo]

Kind of crazy that we traded Barrett and IQ for OG to improve our starting lineup while weakening our bench but now after this trade, we have a better bench than we had before

best bench since 2013. arguably better than that squad's bench too

[MrDollarBills]

As someone who has watched Bojan's NBA career from day one, let me be very clear:

This man has the dog in him. He will be a massive plus to this roster offensively and won't disrupt the pecking order.

I also asked about Alex Burks a few weeks back if anyone had any interest, because he'd be a good rotation fit. Looks like Leon was already ten steps ahead.

This is a massive, massive trade for this roster, and once everyone is 100% I think the Knicks are a legitimate title contender.

I'm happy yall, I loved Bojan so to be able to root for him on the Knicks is amazing.

Leon Rose is executive of the year. No questions.

He was great in BKN! I used to post his stats in the around the NBA thread. I'm so excited to add him. Professional scorer who definitely has got that f u mentality. I love it. I think he's the 3rd best scorer on the team day 1

That's my boy right there!!! You have no idea how happy i am

Also, his name is pronounced "Boy-ahn" for anyone curious. Get used to Mike Breen saying it.

[spree8]

Anyone that’s hating on this deal over Quentin Grimes does not know ball.

Burks is going to swing over to the 2 and play the 1 occasionally. It gives the team depth and allows Thibs to spread the minutes around and not burn out certain players. Also, Bojan and Burks are being put in a much better position, and a much better system. They gave up no 1st rounders, and still managed to improve the team once again.

This is a fantastic trade, that actually gives us pieces that other teams might covet once we pull the trade and add another star player.

lol That’s some bs. Grimes plays defense better than Burks so we lose there. Burks is also a FA after this season so we lose there. Grimes is also significantly younger than Burks and has a higher ceiling. He also has much higher trade value for a star trade because Burks has zero since he’s a FA.

I wanted us to get Bogey for quite a while because of reasons like injuries to Randle (check my posts), but this was too high a price imo, and he won’t have the kinda value Grimes would in a star player trade. There’s positives to it… depth, firepower, experience, shooting, but I just think the cost was too high.

Especially when you factor in that we paid Detroit to take Burks already, gifted them Jalen Duren, now we’re gifting them Grimes. From a value standpoint… it’s not a genius move by any stretch and stinks of poor negotiating to me. It’ll still do some good for us, but the cost was too much.

Y’all really overrate Grimes…

This is such an awful take.

Awful? lol explain yourself, don’t be scared homie

[F N 11]

Gonna end up being a bad ending to a year that was headed in the right direction. Soft and dumb, defense-poor, players coming back. And I'm including Mitch to an extent since he can't score at all and isn't the defensive player people believe he is. Holes.

We just ventured into old and worse basketball, took Deuce out of the rotation, and there is no way we are beating Boston.

Gross.

I thought about it as well they not exactly known for defense. Thibs can treat Bogs like Fournier for all we know.

[louisorr]

two concepts that I'm pondering:

when you're getting blown out every night is it easier to shoot a higher percentage from 3? like during garbage time? could be that the over 40 percent thing is slightly inflated

also when a team sucks at drafting, does it make them seem good at trading?

[3toheadmelo]

if we can flip bojan for another star in the summer then this trade will be the ultimate win

[snadler]

I am very bad at embedding tweets. Belgey says OG injury uncertainty was a big factor for trades. If so, it makes the trade look even worse. Both players we got are net negative on defensive end and we gave up our best perimeter defender in the deal.

You also know if Grimes is healthy? Keep in mind the knicks defense even without OG has been better, thibs philosophy is cooking and if you paid attention to the laker loss, the weakness that was exposed wasn’t defense, but lack of scorers, now that won’t be a problem. This is a bad take

[Reign23]

Anyone that’s hating on this deal over Quentin Grimes does not know ball.

Burks is going to swing over to the 2 and play the 1 occasionally. It gives the team depth and allows Thibs to spread the minutes around and not burn out certain players. Also, Bojan and Burks are being put in a much better position, and a much better system. They gave up no 1st rounders, and still managed to improve the team once again.

This is a fantastic trade, that actually gives us pieces that other teams might covet once we pull the trade and add another star player.

lol That’s some bs. Grimes plays defense better than Burks so we lose there. Burks is also a FA after this season so we lose there. Grimes is also significantly younger than Burks and has a higher ceiling. He also has much higher trade value for a star trade because Burks has zero since he’s a FA.

I wanted us to get Bogey for quite a while because of reasons like injuries to Randle (check my posts), but this was too high a price imo, and he won’t have the kinda value Grimes would in a star player trade. There’s positives to it… depth, firepower, experience, shooting, but I just think the cost was too high.

Especially when you factor in that we paid Detroit to take Burks already, gifted them Jalen Duren, now we’re gifting them Grimes. From a value standpoint… it’s not a genius move by any stretch and stinks of poor negotiating to me. It’ll still do some good for us, but the cost was too much.

Y’all really overrate Grimes…

This is such an awful take.

yeah we were getting to Frank level here. (And I was as guilty as anybody).

[snadler]

if we can flip bojan for another star in the summer then this trade will be the ultimate win

Or follow me here, bojan helps them win a championship or a finals birth

[duetta]

Best case scenario is that Grimes regains his form and allows us to collect Detroit's #1 pick sooner rather than later...

[RHODEY]

Can create his own shot, can bomb away even off the dribble. Offensively he's fantastic.

After reading all these rumors where nothing really got me excited, seeing this come to fruition is like Christmas morning. Dude is gonna be loved here

Oh yeah and just imagine the kind of looks he's going to get on this team.... talk about spacing...

I hope he comes in aggressive too. Probably our 3rd best scorer on the roster. Def the most equipped to be

Brunson
Donte
Boggy
OG
Burkes
Mcbride

We got some snipers.