iHart expected to sign with OKC 3/$87

[B8RcDeMktfxC]

What is the shortest deal the Knicks can offer iHart and obtain his bird rights? If iHart was to return on a 4 year contract i'm assuming he would want a player option so he could re-negotiate his contract at a higher amount as soon as possible.

They only need a year to get his full bird rights, but I believe that a early bird deal that they would be offering requires a minimum of 2 seasons fully guaranteed before a player or team option can go into effect. So basically 2 seasons

I'm confused. Are 1+1 year deals not allowed anymore? Sorry for the questions. I'm not sure who the board's CBA expert is.

2 years on a team without leaving in free agency gave them his early birds rights which gives them the ability to offer him a contract starting at 175% of previous years salary, yes? $9.2M x 1.75 = $16M+

3 years on the team without leaving in free agency would give them his full bird rights allowing them to offer a contract up to 25, 30. 35% of the cap ?(i'm not sure which percentage iHart would qualify for although he is obviously not a max player)

One more year here would be his 3rd year. I'm assuming the options for iHart in New York are a one year deal or multi-year deal with a player option.

From the CBA:

"If the player is an Early Qualifying Veteran Free Agent, the new Player Contract must cover at least two (2) Seasons (not including a Season covered by an Option Year)"

So, no, the Knicks can't offer iHart a 1+1 deal at 175% of his current salary.

What they can do is offer him a 1 year deal at 120% of his current salary. lol.

[Jalen Bluntson]

I think some of you are severely overrating iHart. Nice player but not irreplaceable and not the difference between us being a championship team.

I have faith this regime will keep iHart at a reasonable price or sign an adequate replacement.

https://dunksandthrees.com/epm

Look where Isaiah ranks in the above stat. Widely considered the best all-in-one advanced stat out there today.

He’s 14th in the whole league in EPM, right amongst the biggest names in the game (Jalen is 6th), and 2nd in DEPM (defensive) after Isaac.

Isaiah is also near the top in the league in many other advanced stats. See where he ranked on our team this year in WS, WS/48, BPM, VORP, PER, TS%, etc. Top 1-3 in all of them: https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/NYK/2024.html

He’s always been an advanced stat darling, which is why we signed him in the first place and where the half-joking Jokic jokes come from. Many posters laughed at the thought of him taking Mitch’s starting job, but here we are worried about losing him for 20+ a year.

Isaiah is underrated if anything. If we pivot to Goga Bitadse he’s not far behind Isaiah in these numbers though. Goga is another possible gem, although a level below Isaiah.

Wow. I knew he was a solid player for us but, these numbers are impressive. Makes me a little more concerned if we can't keep him. Goga is the consolation prize if we can't keep iHart apparently. That is if we can get him in this scenario.

[RHODEY]

Dont think time is a major factor. Because even if we do figure out a way to get him 17-18 per it still comes down to whether he's willing to take that paycut. I guess our major competition is ORL and OKC. IF ORL gets PG13 that takes them out of the race. Then it comes down to whether OKC will break the bank. They have other considerations like paying players in the no so long term future.

The idea that OKC wont pay Isaiah because they need to pay other players in the future seems like cope to me.

If the Thunder have to trade guys later then they will do that. They are clearly going for a ring sooner than expected, since they had the 1st seed and just got Caruso. They aren’t far off, but just need a center.

If OKC moves Chet to the 4, and lets Isaiah start and shoot while paying him way more money that is hard to pass up.

Shai
Caruso/Dort
JDub
Chet
Isaiah

That is a championship team.

Obviously we are a championship level team with him now too, but he’d be 30+ million short here with higher taxes. We’ll just have to see what happens. If he leaves it’s going to be for over 100 million imo.

OKC is notoriously cheap when comes to the free agent market, and I don’t see that changing now in the apron era. Also why would they help NY save on cap to resign ihart if they want to sign him themselves, seems counterproductive.

Agreed and acknowledging that they need to pay players is not a cope. Caruso is just one year away and he will get paid. Saying they can just trade other players away to free up money may or may not be true...im not a capologist...but their other core young guys all will command huge contracts. So yeah I think we might still have a chance if their offer doesn't approach 25 million and/or 4 years length.

[TrueWarrior]

I think some of you are severely overrating iHart. Nice player but not irreplaceable and not the difference between us being a championship team.

I have faith this regime will keep iHart at a reasonable price or sign an adequate replacement.

https://dunksandthrees.com/epm

Look where Isaiah ranks in the above stat. Widely considered the best all-in-one advanced stat out there today.

He’s 14th in the whole league in EPM, right amongst the biggest names in the game (Jalen is 6th), and 2nd in DEPM (defensive) after Isaac.

Isaiah is also near the top in the league in many other advanced stats. See where he ranked on our team this year in WS, WS/48, BPM, VORP, PER, TS%, etc. Top 1-3 in all of them: https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/NYK/2024.html

He’s always been an advanced stat darling, which is why we signed him in the first place and where the half-joking Jokic jokes come from. Many posters laughed at the thought of him taking Mitch’s starting job, but here we are worried about losing him for 20+ a year.

Isaiah is underrated if anything. If we pivot to Goga Bitadse he’s not far behind Isaiah in these numbers though. Goga is another possible gem, although a level below Isaiah.

Wow. I knew he was a solid player for us but, these numbers are impressive. Makes me a little more concerned if we can't keep him. Goga is the consolation prize if we can't keep iHart apparently. That is if we can get him in this scenario.

I’ve posted those numbers many times before. Him and Jalen were also 1st in the league in pick and roll efficiency. His offensive rebounding was right there with Mitch too. He was a top 10 rim protector. He also hustles and covers more ground than anyone on our team.

Some posters will counter that Isaiah wasnt amazing in the playoffs. Mitch was definitely better against Embiid for example, and outside of a couple games Isaiah wasn’t great against Indiana either. I’d grant that, but say he was banged up himself and starting his first playoffs. Embiid is an MVP and not easy to handle for anyone, while Indiana is super fast paced and Isaiah had no backup that series besides Precious after Mitch and OG went down.

Either way, the numbers don’t lie. Isaiah is very good, better than his raw numbers would lead you to believe, and he’s still only 26 with low mileage and more potential. If we lose him hopefully we can grab Goga or some other gem for cheaper and keep it moving.

[thebuzzardman]

**** an iShart. There. I'm starting early. Good riddance. Go blow out your troublesome Achilles tendon on the OKC dime.

Some people carrying on in here like he's Kareem. He's replaceable.

Go go Goga!!!

[JayTWill]

They only need a year to get his full bird rights, but I believe that a early bird deal that they would be offering requires a minimum of 2 seasons fully guaranteed before a player or team option can go into effect. So basically 2 seasons

I'm confused. Are 1+1 year deals not allowed anymore? Sorry for the questions. I'm not sure who the board's CBA expert is.

2 years on a team without leaving in free agency gave them his early birds rights which gives them the ability to offer him a contract starting at 175% of previous years salary, yes? $9.2M x 1.75 = $16M+

3 years on the team without leaving in free agency would give them his full bird rights allowing them to offer a contract up to 25, 30. 35% of the cap ?(i'm not sure which percentage iHart would qualify for although he is obviously not a max player)

One more year here would be his 3rd year. I'm assuming the options for iHart in New York are a one year deal or multi-year deal with a player option.

From the CBA:

"If the player is an Early Qualifying Veteran Free Agent, the new Player Contract must cover at least two (2) Seasons (not including a Season covered by an Option Year)"

So, no, the Knicks can't offer iHart a 1+1 deal at 175% of his current salary.

What they can do is offer him a 1 year deal at 120% of his current salary. lol.

Ok, thank you. So the choice for iHart in New York is a 3 or 4 year deal for more security at 175% of his current salary with a player option in the last year or a 1 year deal at 120% of his current salary and the ability to re-sign anywhere up to his max as long as the team is not hard capped?

If he stays I assume he would take the multi-year deal with a possible opt out in year 3 but i'm not sure what type of offers he may be able to get a year from now.

[seren]

Obi got 60. It would be a small miracle if we can keep iHart with 78.

[Deeeez Knicks]

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[RHODEY]

Obi got 60. It would be a small miracle if we can keep iHart with 78.

We got OG from a team we were suing
We got Bridges from a hated rival that hadn't traded with us since 1983
In comparison Ihart resigning is so not out of the question...especially when the Vibes just seem so immaculate right now.....

[knicks94]

**** an iShart. There. I'm starting early. Good riddance. Go blow out your troublesome Achilles tendon on the OKC dime.

Some people carrying on in here like he's Kareem. He's replaceable.

Go go Goga!!!

He is Kareem in Germany.

[JayTWill]

I would love for there to be a way to retain iHart and add Goga. I don't want to have to worry about Mitch's and OG's health. I'm also a bit concerned about how Mitch will age as a player. He doesn't really add much to his game year to year and may have already peaked physically.

The new CBA won't make it easy to add pieces or find quality replacements once they hit the second apron but they should be able to retain the players they have as long as they don't hard cap themselves. Mitch has been a great player to have when healthy but this may be one of the few chances to make a significant addition to the team over the next few years without losing a key core piece.

[JayTWill]

I'm confused. Are 1+1 year deals not allowed anymore? Sorry for the questions. I'm not sure who the board's CBA expert is.

2 years on a team without leaving in free agency gave them his early birds rights which gives them the ability to offer him a contract starting at 175% of previous years salary, yes? $9.2M x 1.75 = $16M+

3 years on the team without leaving in free agency would give them his full bird rights allowing them to offer a contract up to 25, 30. 35% of the cap ?(i'm not sure which percentage iHart would qualify for although he is obviously not a max player)

One more year here would be his 3rd year.

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Which one of you mofos is this Jermey Cohen guy? I was just asking a question. I wasn't reporting anything. Don't call me misinformed. I feel the need to create a Twitter account to follow this guy and then unfollow him to show my discontent.

[Clyde_Style]

**** an iShart. There. I'm starting early. Good riddance. Go blow out your troublesome Achilles tendon on the OKC dime.

Some people carrying on in here like he's Kareem. He's replaceable.

Go go Goga!!!

Goga is a more Clyde-friendly name to pronounce, therefore I'm all in on Goga.

I told World Wide Wes to sign Goga and acquire the rights to Blue Swede's I Have Got This Feeling. It will be a dope rally song by swapping in Goga for Chakka

[thebuzzardman]

**** an iShart. There. I'm starting early. Good riddance. Go blow out your troublesome Achilles tendon on the OKC dime.

Some people carrying on in here like he's Kareem. He's replaceable.

Go go Goga!!!

He is Kareem in Germany.

Kareem Adolf Jabbar?

[Deeeez Knicks]

I'm confused. Are 1+1 year deals not allowed anymore? Sorry for the questions. I'm not sure who the board's CBA expert is.

2 years on a team without leaving in free agency gave them his early birds rights which gives them the ability to offer him a contract starting at 175% of previous years salary, yes? $9.2M x 1.75 = $16M+

3 years on the team without leaving in free agency would give them his full bird rights allowing them to offer a contract up to 25, 30. 35% of the cap ?(i'm not sure which percentage iHart would qualify for although he is obviously not a max player)

One more year here would be his 3rd year.

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Which one of you mofos is this Jermey Cohen guy? I was just asking a question. I wasn't reporting anything. Don't call me misinformed. I feel the need to create a Twitter account to follow this guy and then unfollow him to show my discontent.

The cap can def be complicated. I am confused about all this too

[Lord Commander]

There’s no doubt in my mind IHart is coming back. They’ll figure it out.

[TheGreenArrow]

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Yeah I think he’s gone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Orange Mamba]

anyone familiar with Goga Bitadze's game? (just in case)

[jvsimonetti0514]

I love that all the reporting is saying that Ihart is expected by people around the nba to get over 20 million a year but never mention his suitors. Most people believe OKC is out and Orlando is having meetings with PG13. Can’t imagine they’ll quit that pursuit to sign Ihart and take them out of the running. Who’s the team offering him that?

[Jalen Bluntson]

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Yeah I think he’s gone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OG left 8 mil per on the table. This would be about 4 mil per? It would have to be a winning situation that entices him on top of the money. OKC would possibly have that edge but, we shall see.