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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond 

Post#281 » by Polk377 » Tue Oct 1, 2024 3:26 pm

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We can’t pay Murphy. You want to trade for him as a rental???
We would need to move more to free up salary.


His qualifying offer is 7.3M he can play on that next year. So you get him for 2 years.


Why can't we pay Murphy? We will be over the 2nd apron regardless and Dolan has never been shy about paying the tax.

If we do get Murphy, I could see us breaking up the OG contract in a few years.

Yes we can pay him but Dolan pays double. I would prefer Jones over Murphy anyway. He is the better defender and on a friendly contract with 3 years on it.
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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond 

Post#282 » by Polk377 » Tue Oct 1, 2024 3:32 pm

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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond 

Post#283 » by KnixinSix » Tue Oct 1, 2024 3:32 pm

R-DAWG wrote:
KnixinSix wrote:
ScienceOfLosing wrote:
We can’t pay Murphy. You want to trade for him as a rental???
We would need to move more to free up salary.


His qualifying offer is 7.3M he can play on that next year. So you get him for 2 years.


Why can't we pay Murphy? We will be over the 2nd apron regardless and Dolan has never been shy about paying the tax.

If we do get Murphy, I could see us breaking up the OG contract in a few years.


It's possible. Just dont understand all the whack cap rules there are too many lol
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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond 

Post#284 » by WargamesX » Tue Oct 1, 2024 4:50 pm

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His qualifying offer is 7.3M he can play on that next year. So you get him for 2 years.


Why can't we pay Murphy? We will be over the 2nd apron regardless and Dolan has never been shy about paying the tax.

If we do get Murphy, I could see us breaking up the OG contract in a few years.


It's possible. Just dont understand all the whack cap rules there are too many lol


We can pay him if we trade for his bird rights. We can also always go over the hard cap to fill the roster using 2nd round drafted players or minimum players.
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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond 

Post#285 » by Spree2Houston » Tue Oct 1, 2024 5:59 pm

With the Pelicans trading assets for Muray, they're all in with this projected starting lineup:

Murray
McCollum
Ingram
Zion
Missi

Murphy and Jones are projected to come off the bench. Mitch would stabilize the Center position for the Pelicans. Murphy to the Knicks could be a real thing.
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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond 

Post#286 » by mpharris36 » Tue Oct 1, 2024 6:08 pm

Spree2Houston wrote:With the Pelicans trading assets for Muray, they're all in with this projected starting lineup:

Murray
McCollum
Ingram
Zion
Missi

Murphy and Jones are projected to come off the bench. Mitch would stabilize the Center position for the Pelicans. Murphy to the Knicks could be a real thing.


I know they want to trade ingram...but I don't think anyone wants that contract. And there aren't a lot of minutes for Murphy and Jones off the bench.

I dont' think they would trade Murphy though....McCollum is really there only other really good shooter. Murphy they need to space things for Zion.

Herb is the better defender...but I think they probably move Herb if push came to shove over Murphy...his high volume 3 ball shooting makes him more valuable to teams.
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Post#287 » by R-DAWG » Tue Oct 1, 2024 6:49 pm

Seems like Morris is unlikely to rejoin the Knicks, meaning Shamet is likely the last guy making the roster.

I've always liked Shamet's game. He's only 27 years old and has consistently been a 20ish MPG guy off the bench for playoff teams, shooting a good percentage from 3. He had a bad season with the Wizards last year, but I think he's better suited as the 9th guy.

Given the lack of front court depth, I see the rotation playing out like this to start the season:

Brunson/McBride/Bridges/Anunoby/Towns
Payne or Kolek/Shamet/Hart/Precious

Mitch eventually replaces Precious, and Precious becomes the minutes eater for when OG misses time.

It's not the best bench, but it works.
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Post#288 » by R-DAWG » Tue Oct 1, 2024 6:50 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
Spree2Houston wrote:With the Pelicans trading assets for Muray, they're all in with this projected starting lineup:

Murray
McCollum
Ingram
Zion
Missi

Murphy and Jones are projected to come off the bench. Mitch would stabilize the Center position for the Pelicans. Murphy to the Knicks could be a real thing.


I know they want to trade ingram...but I don't think anyone wants that contract. And there aren't a lot of minutes for Murphy and Jones off the bench.

I dont' think they would trade Murphy though....McCollum is really there only other really good shooter. Murphy they need to space things for Zion.

Herb is the better defender...but I think they probably move Herb if push came to shove over Murphy...his high volume 3 ball shooting makes him more valuable to teams.


I think Jones or Murphy fit much better in this lineup than Ingram.
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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond 

Post#289 » by mpharris36 » Tue Oct 1, 2024 6:54 pm

R-DAWG wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
Spree2Houston wrote:With the Pelicans trading assets for Muray, they're all in with this projected starting lineup:

Murray
McCollum
Ingram
Zion
Missi

Murphy and Jones are projected to come off the bench. Mitch would stabilize the Center position for the Pelicans. Murphy to the Knicks could be a real thing.


I know they want to trade ingram...but I don't think anyone wants that contract. And there aren't a lot of minutes for Murphy and Jones off the bench.

I dont' think they would trade Murphy though....McCollum is really there only other really good shooter. Murphy they need to space things for Zion.

Herb is the better defender...but I think they probably move Herb if push came to shove over Murphy...his high volume 3 ball shooting makes him more valuable to teams.


I think Jones or Murphy fit much better in this lineup than Ingram.


there is zero chance the knicks bring on ingram...money doesn't work. But NOP really want to move him.
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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond 

Post#290 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Tue Oct 1, 2024 6:57 pm

Jones and Murphy are the Pelicans wings, they're not trading them. They haven't given Ingram an extension, just like we didn't give one to Randle, he gone.
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Post#291 » by Wildcat » Tue Oct 1, 2024 8:49 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
R-DAWG wrote:
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I know they want to trade ingram...but I don't think anyone wants that contract. And there aren't a lot of minutes for Murphy and Jones off the bench.

I dont' think they would trade Murphy though....McCollum is really there only other really good shooter. Murphy they need to space things for Zion.

Herb is the better defender...but I think they probably move Herb if push came to shove over Murphy...his high volume 3 ball shooting makes him more valuable to teams.


I think Jones or Murphy fit much better in this lineup than Ingram.


there is zero chance the knicks bring on ingram...money doesn't work. But NOP really want to move him.


I swear I thought NOP and Cavs were a perfect trading partner between Garland and Ingram. Shocked they didn't really change the formula there.
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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond 

Post#292 » by StlHawksFan » Tue Oct 1, 2024 8:56 pm

R-DAWG wrote:
KnixinSix wrote:
ScienceOfLosing wrote:
We can’t pay Murphy. You want to trade for him as a rental???
We would need to move more to free up salary.


His qualifying offer is 7.3M he can play on that next year. So you get him for 2 years.


Why can't we pay Murphy? We will be over the 2nd apron regardless and Dolan has never been shy about paying the tax.

If we do get Murphy, I could see us breaking up the OG contract in a few years.


1. Only wing Pels are moving is Ingram.
2. That's not how QOs work.
3. We are not going to be over the 2nd apron. We have about $9M in room next offseason. The season after we'll have close to $40M which should be just enough to retain Bridges.
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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond 

Post#293 » by BowlRips » Tue Oct 1, 2024 9:16 pm

Surprised we haven't heard about the Pelicans potential interest in a KAT trade.

Surely, I think they would have offered up Ingram and a 2025 Lakers pick for KAT as he would've been a really interesting fit next to Zion. Maybe they don't want to pay him, just like they don't want to pay Ingram. Or maybe T-wolves don't want to pay Ingram either.
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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond 

Post#294 » by WargamesX » Tue Oct 1, 2024 9:20 pm

BowlRips wrote:Surprised we haven't heard about the Pelicans potential interest in a KAT trade.

Surely, I think they would have offered up Ingram and a 2025 Lakers pick for KAT as he would've been a really interesting fit next to Zion. Maybe they don't want to pay him, just like they don't want to pay Ingram. Or maybe T-wolves don't want to pay Ingram either.


Yeah I don't like the Ingram fit next to Antman and they don't need offense from the 5 when you got CJ and Zion, they need a rim protector because Zion plays big but doesn't bring height or defense to the 4 spot.

Its why they drafted Yvissi but he’s a rookie and it usually takes 2-3 seasons for a center to learn how to play defense without fouling.
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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond 

Post#295 » by WargamesX » Tue Oct 1, 2024 9:24 pm

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I think Jones or Murphy fit much better in this lineup than Ingram.


there is zero chance the knicks bring on ingram...money doesn't work. But NOP really want to move him.


I swear I thought NOP and Cavs were a perfect trading partner between Garland and Ingram. Shocked they didn't really change the formula there.


The rumor was they wanted Allen and Garland for two Wings Spida said no on trading Allen.

We was only a week ago talking about how hard it was to find a back up center for Mitch. Good Centers are not cheap anymore. The splash brother era of every team playing small might be over.
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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond 

Post#296 » by El Poochio » Tue Oct 1, 2024 9:36 pm

Can definitely see a Booker for OG trade down the line

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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond 

Post#297 » by StlHawksFan » Tue Oct 1, 2024 9:38 pm

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McCullar is my dark horse to earn some real minutes this season. I expected him to be a late lotto/mid 1st round pick last draft. Age and injury caused him to slip to a ridiculous steal territory for the Knicks. He is NBA ready, good size, excellent defender, transition demon and good awareness on the floor. If he can even be an average 3 point shooter, he will be a great bench piece.


He has really quick hands. I think he goes to the G League basically fulltime this year. If he develops his shot, he's on the team next year.
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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond 

Post#298 » by El Poochio » Tue Oct 1, 2024 9:49 pm

Forget Herb and Trey, getting Jordan Hawkins for Mitch would be a heist. He would fit well at the 2 for us, hoping for some improvement in D
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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond 

Post#299 » by Polk377 » Tue Oct 1, 2024 9:57 pm

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McCullar is my dark horse to earn some real minutes this season. I expected him to be a late lotto/mid 1st round pick last draft. Age and injury caused him to slip to a ridiculous steal territory for the Knicks. He is NBA ready, good size, excellent defender, transition demon and good awareness on the floor. If he can even be an average 3 point shooter, he will be a great bench piece.


He has really quick hands. I think he goes to the G League basically fulltime this year. If he develops his shot, he's on the team next year.

McCuller doesn't need the G-League. He is already developed and NBA ready
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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond 

Post#300 » by StlHawksFan » Tue Oct 1, 2024 10:04 pm

Polk377 wrote:
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Polk377 wrote:McCullar is my dark horse to earn some real minutes this season. I expected him to be a late lotto/mid 1st round pick last draft. Age and injury caused him to slip to a ridiculous steal territory for the Knicks. He is NBA ready, good size, excellent defender, transition demon and good awareness on the floor. If he can even be an average 3 point shooter, he will be a great bench piece.


He has really quick hands. I think he goes to the G League basically fulltime this year. If he develops his shot, he's on the team next year.

McCuller doesn't need the G-League. He is already developed and NBA ready


His shot is far from ready.

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