OT: USA 2024 Elections Thread Part # 2 (November 5th is Election Day!)

[robillionaire]

i don't really care for the pearl-clutching and name calling about a hick rally. to be fair kamala voters are supporting genuine, actual systemic and organized nazism endorsed by raytheon and dick cheney in palestine, which is scarier than dumb rednecks holding 5th grade gluestick posters. yet i'm not calling kamala voters nazis because i understand american electoral politics **** suck and everybody believes they are doing the right thing

including me, who will be voting third party for president in solidarity with my palestinian family who are also voting third party, and "pragmatically" on the local level where things like reproductive rights are actually in play (i think this is genuinely the right move. the war machine must be punished for its great crimes against humanity)

A fascist dictstorship more than likely will not have some “local level” that’s going to somehow protect your rights so I don’t agree that this act is pragmatic in any way. There is a failure to recognize project 2025 and the totalitarian nightmare that will exist after this election at every level and in every town.

spray tan distanced himself from project 2025 i believe but i'm not into what he brings to the table either. i am not voting for either candidate promising to continue the ethnic cleansing of palestinians and other arabs while commander in chief. people can judge me and say i'm the problem for voting third party, but i come from a lineage of true radicals who gave blood for their freedom from colonizers and invaders. i will not vote for a nazi (kamala)

I don’t care what you do I’m just telling you what I think about the position, and of course he distanced himself, he’s a notorious fraud and criminal and you believe that?

[Capn'O]

To be clear, I already voted. I voted for Harris. Easy peasey.

With that out of the way... The Harris campaign has done a really poor job messaging on the economy to the point where everything I'm hearing and reading states that most voters default to an understanding that Trump is far better. That asshat had us on the verge of economic collapse after Covid and they needed to go out of their way to convey that. Like, the the Trump campaign is memeing that they had gas at 2 bucks a gallon. Jumping Jesus on a Pogo Stick!!! That was because nobody was driving during the pandemic and there were huge barges floating around everywhere with excess oil that nobody knew what to do with. It was, from an economic perspective, a huge problem. Not that there was necessarily a party to blame for that other than the virus but it wasn't a **** plus. Then you had a president actively pressuring the Fed to keep interest rates down when it was clear that inflation was looming due to supply chain issues. How can you not parlay that into a message that wins? "We stopped inflation and got the economy back to the point where we can cut rates again and flourish with substantial job growth. You're already seeing it." Boom. Hit us on the head with that over and over.

Now the right can play off that the left's harping on abortion and Trump subverting democracy is window dressing to hide an emperor with no clothes. It's a massive oversight that I can't understand for the life of me. The messaging is so obvious. Like just package what I wrote above better and you're off to the races. I was listening to a program on OPB yesterday that highlighted leaders of black caucuses and a lot of them are pissed to high hell that cannabis reform topped the list on the Harris plan to help black Americans. It came off pretty offensive. Jobs, wealth, security. How do you impact those. Cannabis reform packaged as a piece of police reform can bring up the rear.

[St Knick]

LOL calling lastnight a "nazi rally". get the fug outta here. Can't take you seriously. Sheep, jsut parroting the BS you see on MSNBC or whateve rother sheep herding broadcast you watch. I attended the Nassua Colliseum rally, and there was not a single nazi reference. Just concerned citizens who want to restore the american dream, bring down inflation, value americans over illegal aliens, fight corruption of our medical/pharma/food industries that is slowly making all american sick, and fight against the cancerous woke culture that is eating america from within.

Somehow you get "nazi" from that. You're hopeless.

[rajajackal]

A fascist dictstorship more than likely will not have some “local level” that’s going to somehow protect your rights so I don’t agree that this act is pragmatic in any way. There is a failure to recognize project 2025 and the totalitarian nightmare that will exist after this election at every level and in every town.

spray tan distanced himself from project 2025 i believe but i'm not into what he brings to the table either. i am not voting for either candidate promising to continue the ethnic cleansing of palestinians and other arabs while commander in chief. people can judge me and say i'm the problem for voting third party, but i come from a lineage of true radicals who gave blood for their freedom from colonizers and invaders. i will not vote for a nazi (kamala)

I don’t care what you do I’m just telling you what I think about the position, and of course he distanced himself, he’s a notorious fraud and criminal and you believe that?

i believe that either way he is an ally to israel and therefore a non-starter to me. that goes for kamala as well. pretending they aren't both going to preside over ethnic cleansing is what i am criticizing. i don't see kamala voters as morally superior to trump voters. they're all voting for genocide

[robillionaire]

spray tan distanced himself from project 2025 i believe but i'm not into what he brings to the table either. i am not voting for either candidate promising to continue the ethnic cleansing of palestinians and other arabs while commander in chief. people can judge me and say i'm the problem for voting third party, but i come from a lineage of true radicals who gave blood for their freedom from colonizers and invaders. i will not vote for a nazi (kamala)

I don’t care what you do I’m just telling you what I think about the position, and of course he distanced himself, he’s a notorious fraud and criminal and you believe that?

i believe that either way he is an ally to israel and therefore a non-starter to me. that goes for kamala as well. pretending they aren't both going to preside over ethnic cleansing is what i am criticizing. i don't see kamala voters as morally superior to trump voters. they're all voting for genocide

Cool, I don’t see non Kamala voters as morally superior to Trump voters either since they are taking direct actions to enable fascism so it is what it is. Good luck in the wasteland

[Iamphilhughes]

I won’t shut up about anything fascist collaborator ****. Who’s mans is this

You really are dumb. You and that idiot Clyde something deserve each other. Again, I wish I can embarrass and debate you live. Put some tampons in boys bathrooms loser

Get on your real account coward. Actually don’t. Foe listed. Lick Putin’s taint

This is my one and only account. As you can see, I hardly post but felt compllled to after reading this.

Will you accept my challenge of a live debate and we can post it here?

[rajajackal]

I don’t care what you do I’m just telling you what I think about the position, and of course he distanced himself, he’s a notorious fraud and criminal and you believe that?

i believe that either way he is an ally to israel and therefore a non-starter to me. that goes for kamala as well. pretending they aren't both going to preside over ethnic cleansing is what i am criticizing. i don't see kamala voters as morally superior to trump voters. they're all voting for genocide

Cool, I don’t see non Kamala voters as morally superior to Trump voters either since they are taking direct actions to enable fascism so it is what it is. Good luck in the wasteland

i believe third party votes will probably help kamala more than trump tbh. a lot of what got trump into the white house in 2016 was the disgruntled protest vote. now there are clearer alternatives to express that, specifically on the topic of whether ethnic cleansing sponsored by the united states is a red line or not

[DOT]

With that out of the way... The Harris campaign has done a really poor job messaging on the economy to the point where most voters seem to default that Trump is far better. That asshat had us on the verge of economic collapse after Covid and they needed to go out of their way to convey that. Like, their campaign is memeing that they had gas at 2 bucks a gallon. Jumping Jesus on a Pogo Stick!!! That was because nobody was driving during the pandemic and there were huge barges floating around everywhere with excess oil that nobody knew what to do with. It was, from an economic perspective, a huge problem. Not that there was necessarily a party to blame for that other than the virus but it wasn't a **** plus.

To be fair, that's because Republicans have spent decades drilling into the American population that they're better for the economy, plus the "both sides" people have to concede Dems are better on social issues, and they think therefore since both sides have to be good at something, it means Republicans have to be good at the economy

It's not a Harris campaign problem, it's an overall problem. Especially because most Americans are functionally illiterate when it comes to the economy and can only associate actions with immediate impact. Case in point, I guarantee you at least 40% of Americans think the 2008 financial crisis was caused by Obama, despite him not getting into office until 2009.

[robillionaire]

You really are dumb. You and that idiot Clyde something deserve each other. Again, I wish I can embarrass and debate you live. Put some tampons in boys bathrooms loser

Get on your real account coward. Actually don’t. Foe listed. Lick Putin’s taint

This is my one and only account. As you can see, I hardly post but felt compllled to after reading this.

Will you accept my challenge of a live debate and we can post it here?

I hope to not have to interact with you further in any way

[Iamphilhughes]

Get on your real account coward. Actually don’t. Foe listed. Lick Putin’s taint

This is my one and only account. As you can see, I hardly post but felt compllled to after reading this.

Will you accept my challenge of a live debate and we can post it here?

I hope to not have to interact with you further in any way

Yup, who’s the coward. I know you can’t articulate yourself live, it’s ok. You can write left propaganda but can’t debate your points live without a keyboard. Coward.

[Capn'O]

With that out of the way... The Harris campaign has done a really poor job messaging on the economy to the point where most voters seem to default that Trump is far better. That asshat had us on the verge of economic collapse after Covid and they needed to go out of their way to convey that. Like, their campaign is memeing that they had gas at 2 bucks a gallon. Jumping Jesus on a Pogo Stick!!! That was because nobody was driving during the pandemic and there were huge barges floating around everywhere with excess oil that nobody knew what to do with. It was, from an economic perspective, a huge problem. Not that there was necessarily a party to blame for that other than the virus but it wasn't a **** plus.

To be fair, that's because Republicans have spent decades drilling into the American population that they're better for the economy, plus the "both sides" people have to concede Dems are better on social issues, and they think therefore since both sides have to be good at something, it means Republicans have to be good at the economy

It's not a Harris campaign problem, it's an overall problem. Especially because most Americans are functionally illiterate when it comes to the economy and can only associate actions with immediate impact. Case in point, I guarantee you at least 40% of Americans think the 2008 financial crisis was caused by Obama, despite him not getting into office until 2009.

100%, you're right. It's been this way for years and it's such a weird concession. Post Clinton/Obama/Biden the economy has been in a really good spot. And that illiteracy is in part because the public doesn't get to see a great debate on it anymore.

[robillionaire]

This is my one and only account. As you can see, I hardly post but felt compllled to after reading this.

Will you accept my challenge of a live debate and we can post it here?

I hope to not have to interact with you further in any way

Yup, who’s the coward. I know you can’t articulate yourself live, it’s ok. You can write left propaganda but can’t debate your points live without a keyboard. Coward.

I am putting my shoes on to go to work and I have a life, I don’t want to interact with some weird fascist debate bro. This is my final reply, go be weird with someone else

[3toheadmelo]

To be clear, I already voted. I voted for Harris. Easy peasey.

With that out of the way... The Harris campaign has done a really poor job messaging on the economy to the point where everything I'm hearing and reading states that most voters default to an understanding that Trump is far better. That asshat had us on the verge of economic collapse after Covid and they needed to go out of their way to convey that. Like, the the Trump campaign is memeing that they had gas at 2 bucks a gallon. Jumping Jesus on a Pogo Stick!!! That was because nobody was driving during the pandemic and there were huge barges floating around everywhere with excess oil that nobody knew what to do with. It was, from an economic perspective, a huge problem. Not that there was necessarily a party to blame for that other than the virus but it wasn't a **** plus. Then you had a president actively chiding the Fed to keep interest rates down when it was clear that inflation was looming due to supply chain issues. How can you not parlay that into a message that wins? "We stopped inflation and got the economy back to the point where we can cut rates again and flourish with substantial job growth. You're already seeing it." Boom. Hit us on the head with that over and over.

Now the right can play off that the left's harping on abortion and Trump subverting democracy is window dressing to hide an emperor with no clothes. It's a massive oversight that I can't understand for the life of me. The messaging is so obvious. Like just package what I wrote above better and you're off to the races. I was listening to a program on OPB yesterday that highlighted leaders of black caucuses and a lot of them are pissed to high hell that cannabis reform topped the list on the Harris plan to help black Americans. It came off pretty offensive. Jobs, wealth, security. How do you impact those. Cannabis reform packaged as a piece of police reform can bring up the rear.

I think Obama said it perfectly

Read on Twitter

[rajajackal]

Read on Twitter

[Stannis]

Are you out of your mind? You don’t think Biden, Schumer, and that subhuman Blinken aren’t working with Netanyahu? Have you been paying attention to what’s been going on the past year?

Anyone who supports Israel is a fcking sociopath. Sorry, not sorry.

Not a genocide though. Biden + Kamala have no choice. It's complicated. Trump might be worse. Kamala is not allowed to use her voice. She's only a VP.



USA is undermining the UN on Israel's behalf. This is a VERY dangerous game, especially considering the UN created Israel.

UN body says “entire population” of northern Gaza is “at risk of dying”
From CNN's Karem Khadder and Vasco Cotovio

The UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs says the “entire population of north Gaza is at risk of dying,” as Israel continues intense military operations in the area.

“Hundreds of Palestinians have reportedly been killed. Tens of thousands have been forced to flee yet again,” acting Under Secretary General for Humanitarian Affairs and Emergency Relief Coordinator Joyce Msuya said in a statement. “Hospitals have been hit and health workers have been detained. Shelters have been emptied and burned down. First responders have been prevented from saving people from under the rubble. Families have been separated and men and boys are being taken away by the truckload.”

Msuya went on to say that “what Israeli forces are doing in besieged north Gaza cannot be allowed to continue.”

“Such blatant disregard for basic humanity and for the laws of war must stop,” she added.

[Capn'O]

To be clear, I already voted. I voted for Harris. Easy peasey.

With that out of the way... The Harris campaign has done a really poor job messaging on the economy to the point where everything I'm hearing and reading states that most voters default to an understanding that Trump is far better. That asshat had us on the verge of economic collapse after Covid and they needed to go out of their way to convey that. Like, the the Trump campaign is memeing that they had gas at 2 bucks a gallon. Jumping Jesus on a Pogo Stick!!! That was because nobody was driving during the pandemic and there were huge barges floating around everywhere with excess oil that nobody knew what to do with. It was, from an economic perspective, a huge problem. Not that there was necessarily a party to blame for that other than the virus but it wasn't a **** plus. Then you had a president actively chiding the Fed to keep interest rates down when it was clear that inflation was looming due to supply chain issues. How can you not parlay that into a message that wins? "We stopped inflation and got the economy back to the point where we can cut rates again and flourish with substantial job growth. You're already seeing it." Boom. Hit us on the head with that over and over.

Now the right can play off that the left's harping on abortion and Trump subverting democracy is window dressing to hide an emperor with no clothes. It's a massive oversight that I can't understand for the life of me. The messaging is so obvious. Like just package what I wrote above better and you're off to the races. I was listening to a program on OPB yesterday that highlighted leaders of black caucuses and a lot of them are pissed to high hell that cannabis reform topped the list on the Harris plan to help black Americans. It came off pretty offensive. Jobs, wealth, security. How do you impact those. Cannabis reform packaged as a piece of police reform can bring up the rear.

I think Obama said it perfectly

Read on Twitter

He usually does.

[robillionaire]

i believe that either way he is an ally to israel and therefore a non-starter to me. that goes for kamala as well. pretending they aren't both going to preside over ethnic cleansing is what i am criticizing. i don't see kamala voters as morally superior to trump voters. they're all voting for genocide

Cool, I don’t see non Kamala voters as morally superior to Trump voters either since they are taking direct actions to enable fascism so it is what it is. Good luck in the wasteland

i believe third party votes will probably help kamala more than trump tbh. a lot of what got trump into the white house in 2016 was the disgruntled protest vote. now there are clearer alternatives to express that, specifically on the topic of whether or not ethnic cleansing sponsored by the united states is a red line or not

I mean at the end of the day I agree with your position re: Palestine and even support using leverage with an arms embargo to stop it, I just don’t think that this action to elect Trump is good from a strategic standpoint even if that was the only thing I care about, which it isn’t. Also Netanyahu is refusing a ceasefire strictly to help elect Trump. This isn’t about the election I’m just articulating my position

[spree8]

LOL calling lastnight a "nazi rally". get the fug outta here. Can't take you seriously. Sheep, jsut parroting the BS you see on MSNBC or whateve rother sheep herding broadcast you watch. I attended the Nassua Colliseum rally, and there was not a single nazi reference. Just concerned citizens who want to restore the american dream, bring down inflation, value americans over illegal aliens, fight corruption of our medical/pharma/food industries that is slowly making all american sick, and fight against the cancerous woke culture that is eating america from within.

Somehow you get "nazi" from that. You're hopeless.

I really think if most Americans sat in a room with someone on the opposite side, they’d likely agree on 99.9% of things. Most people want the same things in life… to be happy, healthy, and safe and want the same for their families and friends/neighbors. A roof over your head, food on the table, affordable healthcare and education, and a job/career with fair pay for fair work. Not sure how the hell we got to this point.

[DOT]

I hope to not have to interact with you further in any way

Yup, who’s the coward. I know you can’t articulate yourself live, it’s ok. You can write left propaganda but can’t debate your points live without a keyboard. Coward.

I am putting my shoes on to go to work and I have a life, I don’t want to interact with some weird fascist debate bro. This is my final reply, go be weird with someone else

The only people who need to debate in-person and can't defend their ideas through written words are the ones who are just gonna shout over you and gish gallop

It's like how Ben Shapiro and Charlie Kirk can look good when "debating" freshmen in college off the street, but the moment they go up against an adult who actually knows what they're talking about, they get humiliated. Ben Shapiro's complete meltdown on the BBC is the prime example.

[ScienceOfLosing]

LOL calling lastnight a "nazi rally". get the fug outta here. Can't take you seriously. Sheep, jsut parroting the BS you see on MSNBC or whateve rother sheep herding broadcast you watch. I attended the Nassua Colliseum rally, and there was not a single nazi reference. Just concerned citizens who want to restore the american dream, bring down inflation, value americans over illegal aliens, fight corruption of our medical/pharma/food industries that is slowly making all american sick, and fight against the cancerous woke culture that is eating america from within.

Somehow you get "nazi" from that. You're hopeless.

Well said. Do their eyes deceive them? (No, just MSM.)