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Re: PG: Knicks -Nets 11-15-24 

Post#281 » by JayTWill » Sun Nov 17, 2024 3:40 pm

No one expects Huk to be perfect and his effort has been great but I do wonder what he looks like in practice. In an in-game situation I feel Brunson would abuse a big like Huk who is ultra aggressive and leaves his feet so often. JB would live at the line. I wonder if he looks to draw fouls in a similar way during practice or if he tries to avoid the physical wear and tear. I'm not even sure what the practices look like at this point in the season.

I love Huk's effort and intensity but I could see a crafty offensive player easily using it against him. He will adjust as he becomes more comfortable and experienced but opposing teams will also get more game tape on his style of play over time. The 4 blocked shots are great but constantly leaving his feet could lead to trouble with fouls, positioning and rebounding.
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Re: PG: Knicks -Nets 11-15-24 

Post#282 » by Wildcat » Sun Nov 17, 2024 5:22 pm

The KnicksFix wrote:Read somewhere that Hartenstein recommended Huk from Germany playing days on the way out from the Knicks during free agency. If so, iHart a real one


I don't recall that but I know I-Hart has been a offering him advice.
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Re: PG: Knicks -Nets 11-15-24 

Post#283 » by Wildcat » Sun Nov 17, 2024 5:27 pm

JayTWill wrote:No one expects Huk to be perfect and his effort has been great but I do wonder what he looks like in practice. In an in-game situation I feel Brunson would abuse a big like Huk who is ultra aggressive and leaves his feet so often. JB would live at the line. I wonder if he looks to draw fouls in a similar way during practice or if he tries to avoid the physical wear and tear. I'm not even sure what the practices look like at this point in the season.

I love Huk's effort and intensity but I could see a crafty offensive player easily using it against him. He will adjust as he becomes more comfortable and experienced but opposing teams will also get more game tape on his style of play over time. The 4 blocked shots are great but constantly leaving his feet could lead to trouble with fouls, positioning and rebounding.


I mentioned there's probably things in practice (when they do practice) that we're not seeing that's keeping Ariel where he is for now. I'm a trail by fire guy, though. You can tell who are the dudes that have coincidence in themselves and who doesn't right now. He has it right now. You can tell on Sim's face that his time is up. Kyler doesn't, yet. He better work on it.
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Re: PG: Knicks -Nets 11-15-24 

Post#284 » by RHODEY » Sun Nov 17, 2024 6:25 pm

JayTWill wrote:No one expects Huk to be perfect and his effort has been great but I do wonder what he looks like in practice. In an in-game situation I feel Brunson would abuse a big like Huk who is ultra aggressive and leaves his feet so often. JB would live at the line. I wonder if he looks to draw fouls in a similar way during practice or if he tries to avoid the physical wear and tear. I'm not even sure what the practices look like at this point in the season.

I love Huk's effort and intensity but I could see a crafty offensive player easily using it against him. He will adjust as he becomes more comfortable and experienced but opposing teams will also get more game tape on his style of play over time. The 4 blocked shots are great but constantly leaving his feet could lead to trouble with fouls, positioning and rebounding.


IMO Huk leaving his feet does not outweigh the positive aspects he brings or the need for him to get minutes to improve. Worst case he's still 5x better than Sims.
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Re: PG: Knicks -Nets 11-15-24 

Post#285 » by sol537 » Sun Nov 17, 2024 6:35 pm

Huk left his feet a few times in the 4th... he's definitely got to clean that up but in the first three quarters, he was great on both ends. A revelation, if you will. Wonder why Thibs hasn't seen the potential until this game. Maybe bringing him along slowly...
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Re: PG: Knicks -Nets 11-15-24 

Post#286 » by Iron Mantis » Sun Nov 17, 2024 6:45 pm

sol537 wrote:Huk left his feet a few times in the 4th... he's definitely got to clean that up but in the first three quarters, he was great on both ends. A revelation, if you will. Wonder why Thibs hasn't seen the potential until this game. Maybe bringing him along slowly...

The universal excuse as to why Thibs refuses to play a young guy who is ready to contribute. :lol:
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Re: PG: Knicks -Nets 11-15-24 

Post#287 » by thebuzzardman » Sun Nov 17, 2024 7:13 pm

stuporman wrote:I want to know if this guy is so good why wasn't he guarding all 5 positions, defending the perimeter and protecting the rim for the whole 4th quarter all by himself? Otherwise, the Knicks wouldn't have given up the lead...that sure is Huk'd up!


Them blowing the lead was a group effort but make no mistake, Huk was an active participant in the lead dwindling.

Letting up an easy 3 to Clowney, then fouling him as time expired. 5 points.
ill advised jumper, careless pass...

He's better than Sims, but people need to slow their role. But as usual, the second some Knick backup scores a couple of points, everyone acts like they've got the next 6th man of the year.
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Re: PG: Knicks -Nets 11-15-24 

Post#288 » by Jalen Bluntson » Sun Nov 17, 2024 8:23 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
stuporman wrote:I want to know if this guy is so good why wasn't he guarding all 5 positions, defending the perimeter and protecting the rim for the whole 4th quarter all by himself? Otherwise, the Knicks wouldn't have given up the lead...that sure is Huk'd up!


Them blowing the lead was a group effort but make no mistake, Huk was an active participant in the lead dwindling.

Letting up an easy 3 to Clowney, then fouling him as time expired. 5 points.
ill advised jumper, careless pass...

He's better than Sims, but people need to slow their role. But as usual, the second some Knick backup scores a couple of points, everyone acts like they've got the next 6th man of the year.


I don't see anyone acting like he's sixth man of the year. Just a much better player than Sims will ever be. In 4 years Huk won't look like he just got drafted. Sims looks like he never played the game before yesterday.

We could have been using Huk for 9 minutes a game this entire time. That's what my issue is. He showed more in his limited minutes this year than Sims ever has. Let him work his way into a role instead of wasting years on a clueless jumping bean.
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Re: PG: Knicks -Nets 11-15-24 

Post#289 » by ctorres » Sun Nov 17, 2024 8:36 pm

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thebuzzardman wrote:
stuporman wrote:I want to know if this guy is so good why wasn't he guarding all 5 positions, defending the perimeter and protecting the rim for the whole 4th quarter all by himself? Otherwise, the Knicks wouldn't have given up the lead...that sure is Huk'd up!


Them blowing the lead was a group effort but make no mistake, Huk was an active participant in the lead dwindling.

Letting up an easy 3 to Clowney, then fouling him as time expired. 5 points.
ill advised jumper, careless pass...

He's better than Sims, but people need to slow their role. But as usual, the second some Knick backup scores a couple of points, everyone acts like they've got the next 6th man of the year.


I don't see anyone acting like he's sixth man of the year. Just a much better player than Sims will ever be. In 4 years Huk won't look like he just got drafted. Sims looks like he never played the game before yesterday.

We could have been using Huk for 9 minutes a game this entire time. That's what my issue is. He showed more in his limited minutes this year than Sims ever has. Let him work his way into a role instead of wasting years on a clueless jumping bean.


For real

If Sims isn't gonna progress, he should look to secure a long term deal that's just slightly more than minimum salary to be a long term 4th string center.
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Re: PG: Knicks -Nets 11-15-24 

Post#290 » by ctorres » Sun Nov 17, 2024 8:41 pm

KnicksGod wrote:Pretty noteworthy that Thibs likes Huk, a lot, and Dadiet too, although I think they def had a talk with him about stretching the rotation here and there


Didn't the Knicks originally want to stash Dadiet overseas, but Dadiet insisted on playing with the Knicks? Props to Dadiet for coming even without the guarantee of playing time and having to bust his ass to earn minutes under Thibs.
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Re: PG: Knicks -Nets 11-15-24 

Post#291 » by ctorres » Sun Nov 17, 2024 11:21 pm

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ctorres wrote:OG Anunoby's last 7 games

37.7 mpg
19.7 ppg
51.0% fg's on 14.3 fga/g
37.8% 3pt fg's on 6.4 3ga/g
86.4% ft's on 3.1 fta/g
6.4 rpg
2.4 apg
1.4 spg
1.0 bpg

He's playing like a borderline all-star power forward, filling up the stat sheet and shooting at a high efficiency. He is the prototype 4 for the modern game.

I think he'd be even better as a 3.


More trade value in him being primarily a PF who can switch to other positions

If Giannis does in fact become available, we gotta build up OG as an asset

Not that we would land Giannis because he'd probably end up elsewhere, but OG is the best piece for Giannis
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Re: PG: Knicks -Nets 11-15-24 

Post#292 » by stuporman » Mon Nov 18, 2024 12:45 am

thebuzzardman wrote:
stuporman wrote:I want to know if this guy is so good why wasn't he guarding all 5 positions, defending the perimeter and protecting the rim for the whole 4th quarter all by himself? Otherwise, the Knicks wouldn't have given up the lead...that sure is Huk'd up!


Them blowing the lead was a group effort but make no mistake, Huk was an active participant in the lead dwindling.

Letting up an easy 3 to Clowney, then fouling him as time expired. 5 points.
ill advised jumper, careless pass...

He's better than Sims, but people need to slow their role. But as usual, the second some Knick backup scores a couple of points, everyone acts like they've got the next 6th man of the year.


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Re: PG: Knicks -Nets 11-15-24 

Post#293 » by RHODEY » Mon Nov 18, 2024 3:06 am

ctorres wrote:
RHODEY wrote:
ctorres wrote:OG Anunoby's last 7 games

37.7 mpg
19.7 ppg
51.0% fg's on 14.3 fga/g
37.8% 3pt fg's on 6.4 3ga/g
86.4% ft's on 3.1 fta/g
6.4 rpg
2.4 apg
1.4 spg
1.0 bpg

He's playing like a borderline all-star power forward, filling up the stat sheet and shooting at a high efficiency. He is the prototype 4 for the modern game.

I think he'd be even better as a 3.


More trade value in him being primarily a PF who can switch to other positions

If Giannis does in fact become available, we gotta build up OG as an asset

Not that we would land Giannis because he'd probably end up elsewhere, but OG is the best piece for Giannis
Its a pipe dream...and I like our core anyway

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