Clyde_Style wrote:dakomish23 wrote:Clyde_Style wrote:
The NBA YouTube page now does every bucket in their highlight videos of games. I was rewatching the CLE game and at least 3x CLE got easy buckets at the rim b/c of Thibs is “defender of screener shows then recovers” scheme. It is a terrible option in the modern NBA, b/c he refuses to tell ppl to help that initial defender of the guy who set the screen. So they’re scrambling to get back to their guy and are out of position to defend a lob or box out or whatever. the same issue would happen when it was Mitch and Hartenstein too.
Then on offense, he puts these bruisers in front of the rim instead of on the baseline for the drop off, preventing a lot of drives at the rim or causing them to be extra contested when ppl do drive all the way.
https://vocal.media/education/what-is-the-dunker-spot-a-closer-look-at-basketball-s-strategic-positionThis is like basketball 101 that you learn just playing pick up. Help the helper. Clear the lane. I just don’t get it.
Getting Mitch back isn’t going to be the complete fix ppl think it is
Yes, agreed in full. I'm pretty clear their viability increases if Mitch can actually play long enough to matter, but it will not correct our strategic failures due to Thibs.
Peeps seem to think we'll find another gear in the playoffs, but what do they think the other clubs will do then, fall back and roll out a red carpet for us?
No, the issues we have now will amplify. We'll continue to have issues with containing perimeter shooters, our transition defense will be in a state of confusion and our half court sets will grind to a halt with no play action being generated.
And some club we face in the first round could play well and dump us pretty easily if they get on a roll entering the playoffs whether that is a DET or ORL or ATL or MIL or whomever, because our issues will be worse in the playoffs, not vanish by virtue of outscoring the opposition. I said the other day we'd beat a team like DET in the first round, but I take that back. Our record gives us zero indication of how we'll fare in a series against anyone. We're much closer to a mid team than an elite one so we have no reason to be overconfident.
The issue with replacing Thibs is whether the FO wants to try to make a run this year or not, because if they do you absolutely have to dump Thibs now and start coaching up the roster in the last third of the season, because we're playing like bush leaguers now.
Per your thoughts on D, we literally are losing the will to play legit man defense, because we're not committing to our assignments enough. Switching works when you commit to it too, but that's not working at all due to the schizoid dictates of Thibs to cover them outside, but drop back to contain the interior. Our personnel is clearly better at manning up at the POA and making the other team eat up some of the clock, but we almost always let them settle into their sets without any confrontation and then we muddle around in no-man's land as they dissect us from outside/in.
It's a disaster and any reputation Thibs had as a defensive coach is in ruins. Thibs is a system coach dependent on types of players who cannot coach up just anyone who doesn't fit into their rigid schemes.
Fire this guy now if you want to regroup and make a run at it this season. Otherwise, this season is dunzo.
