HEZI wrote:JayTWill wrote:HEZI wrote:
It’s not a bigger role, you are still getting the same player who plays the same way and asking him to play his game. You aren’t making him into something he’s not or asking him to do something he doesn’t already do. So no those things don’t change. You are just assuming things but there’s nothing to suggest you would see a drop off in production just by making him a full time starter. Look what happened with Norman Powell.
I agree with you on OG, he certainly has limitations offensively but he plays a more physical style of basketball and is better against tougher opponents because unlike Mikal, OG can actually exploit some mismatches due to his strength and aggressiveness. He's bigger, stronger, doesn’t get pushed off his spot like Mikal, attacks strong and gets to the line. What I disagree with is you saying Mikal is more talented. He’s just not.
The offensive rating question is probably due to KAT playing with the bench. Brunson and KAT don’t really play as a duo and I rarely see them execute a 2 man game consistently. Brunson prefers to play iso so he will waive off a lot of screens to take his man 1 on 1. It’s when Brunson sits that KAT gets opportunities to do his own thing a little more so the staggering by Thibs has helped in keeping the bench afloat because overall our bench just hasn’t been good as a unit. But another thing you have to look at is who does the other team have on the floor when one guy sits and the other is in the game. Opponent matchups play a factor too.
If the Knicks brought in Hunter instead of Mikal i'm assuming he would be taking Mikal's place in the starting lineup. Thibs would play him almost 40 minutes just like the rest of the other wings. Playing 28 off the bench is a big difference from playing 38 as a starter.
In ATL Daniels was the point of attack defender. He took the toughest perimeter matchup most of the game. The other day when I watched the Cavs Okoro was guarding Morant and and Hunter was guarding Aldama off the bench.
Tomorrow the Knicks play the Warriors. Chasing around Steph Curry from jumpball and then possibly guarding Butler and a few other guys is a little different than just guarding Butler for shorter stints and some random bench guys. OG will probably guard Butler. Maybe Thibs decides to finally let Brunson or Hart take on a more difficult defensive matchup but if not guarding Steph is going to affect someone like Hunter's offense while also exposing some of his defensive limitations.
As you mentioned Brunson is a bit of a one man show. This is not playing next to Trae Young who is a much better facilitator. This is not coming off the bench and getting to be more of the focal point. This is not a high pace offense like Atlanta's or Cleveland's. There is going to be a lot of standing around and watching and a lot of difficult shots. Last night watching Miami, Alec Burks' shots for the Heat looked a lot easier than Alec Burks' shots for the Knicks last year. He has been far more efficient with the Heat just as he was in Detroit.
Maybe Hunter would have success as a difficult shot maker like Brunson, DDV or KAT or maybe he would struggle like many other guys in Thibs offense. There is no guarantee it would translate but I think it would be more difficult than his current situation. Being in a pretty stagnant and predictable offense surrounded by some pretty bad defenders is not a simple task.
Yeah guys really struggle in Thibs offense that’s why we keep seeing breakout players year after year. Not everybody fits, that doesn’t mean it’s the fault of the coach or the offense, maybe it’s just the player is limited.
You aren’t familiar with Hunter, he’s so much more skilled than Bridges and he doesn’t need to be set up for open looks like Bridges does.
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When have you ever seen Mikal jab step from above the break and knock down a shot with a defender in his face? He can shoot off the dribble plus he’s a better spot up shooter and that would fit our style way better than what Mikal can do or can’t do.
He's just so much more skilled and better than Bridges. On defense he is bigger and stronger and can guard the same guys that OG can so they would be interchangeable.
I honestly don’t know what to say after reading this. Hunter jab steps and shoots a 3 and that’s some all worldly skill? You’ve never seen Mikal do that or anything better? Have you ever seen what he’s capable of? If so, through what lenses are you watching him? Call me when Hunter can take Butler 1 on 1 from above the break to the paint and sauce him up for an And1… and drop 45 points


















