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Official Knicks Coaching Search Thread pt. 2 (update: poll added 6/18/25)

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Who will be the next coach of the New York Knicks?

Poll ended at Wed Jul 2, 2025 1:31 pm

Mike Brown
24
18%
Taylor Jenkins
42
32%
Johnnie Bryant
27
20%
Mike Malone
5
4%
James Borrego
7
5%
Mike Budenholzer
1
1%
Rick Brunson
4
3%
Jeff Van Gundy
6
5%
Jason Kidd
10
8%
Other
7
5%
 
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Post#281 » by spree8 » Sat Jun 14, 2025 5:58 pm

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if the market was thibs, jenkins and mike brown for some other team, thibs would clearly be looked at around the league as the best of those 3


I think Thibs and Jenkins would be close, especially in today’s NBA

I think what Thibs has done with the Knicks is much more impressive than what Jenkins has done with Memphis



I dunno. Thibs didn’t have a nut like Ja to deal with who thinks he’s John Wayne twirling guns around on video. Plus he didn’t have the front office getting rid of an integral piece to their core in Dillon Brooks or the whole assistant coach fiasco. It’s just not a fair comparison.

But in 2021-2022 & 2022-2023 to have 56 & 51 wins in the west while having guys like Ja n JJJ miss significant time, that’s impressive.
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Post#282 » by MrDollarBills » Sat Jun 14, 2025 5:58 pm

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Post#283 » by BKlutch » Sat Jun 14, 2025 6:02 pm

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I should slap down some scratch on Johnnie Bryant :lol:

Where did these odd come from? How is Steve Nash even on that list? I mean, it is good for lolz.
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Post#284 » by MrDollarBills » Sat Jun 14, 2025 6:02 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:Well damn.. decided to see how Memphis fans feel about Jenkins and it aint too good..they make it sound like he’s a coach for a rebuilding team.

definitely a floor raising coach. Honestly the completely opposite of Thibs outside of the defensive identity. Stars play low 30s in minutes and he trusts his depth alot(11 man rotations in the first quarter). He doesnt really have an offensive identity but defensively he loves overhelping on drives. A really bad Con is he has a pretty bad feel for the game, like bad management of timeouts and bad clutch time execution.

He also gets the tag of a development coach because of alot of the developedplayers on the team (Santi, Wells, Bane, etc)



Not the coach yall need

Taylor is a builder…not a take you to the next level guy

He’s the guy you hire when you start a rebuild…not when you’re already good


Great at developing young talent, horrible in game


He’s an Ace at developing young talent, but hilariously bad at X’s & O’s. His rotations will have you confused, horny and mad. Sometimes all 3 at once. Be prepared to see your top scorers benched for half the quarter.


Can’t scheme any defense that doesn’t involve overcommitting on the inside and just praying the other team misses open 3 pointers.

Good at developing young talent though


i like the guy and hope he succeeds wherever he ends up, and think it’s possible, but he will have to self reflect and really learn from his grizzlies tenure. if he’s the same coach he was with us, it won’t work. he’s very rigid in his decision making and was often way too late in pivoting whether it was in game or throughout the season. he also kind of struggles in late game situations, he just doesn’t have great feel in my opinion. the turning point in our season was the 3 consecutive buzzer beater losses and he was maybe the biggest cause of all three of those. there’s more to be said, but he brings a lot of positive as well and it could work if how things played out lit a fire under him. you could do much worse


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Post#285 » by MrDollarBills » Sat Jun 14, 2025 6:04 pm

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I should slap down some scratch on Johnnie Bryant :lol:

Where did these odd come from? How is Steve Nash even on that list? I mean, it is good for lolz.



Steve Nash may be the worst coach in league history. I was stunned that a player with elite PG IQ had no feel for the game, rotations, time outs, etc.

Coaching is an entirely different animal
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Post#286 » by BKlutch » Sat Jun 14, 2025 6:04 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:Well damn.. decided to see how Memphis fans feel about Jenkins and it aint too good..they make it sound like he’s a coach for a rebuilding team.

definitely a floor raising coach. Honestly the completely opposite of Thibs outside of the defensive identity. Stars play low 30s in minutes and he trusts his depth alot(11 man rotations in the first quarter). He doesnt really have an offensive identity but defensively he loves overhelping on drives. A really bad Con is he has a pretty bad feel for the game, like bad management of timeouts and bad clutch time execution.

He also gets the tag of a development coach because of alot of the developedplayers on the team (Santi, Wells, Bane, etc)



Not the coach yall need

Taylor is a builder…not a take you to the next level guy

He’s the guy you hire when you start a rebuild…not when you’re already good


Great at developing young talent, horrible in game


He’s an Ace at developing young talent, but hilariously bad at X’s & O’s. His rotations will have you confused, horny and mad. Sometimes all 3 at once. Be prepared to see your top scorers benched for half the quarter.


Can’t scheme any defense that doesn’t involve overcommitting on the inside and just praying the other team misses open 3 pointers.

Good at developing young talent though


i like the guy and hope he succeeds wherever he ends up, and think it’s possible, but he will have to self reflect and really learn from his grizzlies tenure. if he’s the same coach he was with us, it won’t work. he’s very rigid in his decision making and was often way too late in pivoting whether it was in game or throughout the season. he also kind of struggles in late game situations, he just doesn’t have great feel in my opinion. the turning point in our season was the 3 consecutive buzzer beater losses and he was maybe the biggest cause of all three of those. there’s more to be said, but he brings a lot of positive as well and it could work if how things played out lit a fire under him. you could do much worse


Oh hell no.

I suppose it all depends on which fans were quoted, and how they were selected. If you asked Knicks fans, you'd hear:
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Post#287 » by BKlutch » Sat Jun 14, 2025 6:06 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
BKlutch wrote:
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I should slap down some scratch on Johnnie Bryant :lol:

Where did these odd come from? How is Steve Nash even on that list? I mean, it is good for lolz.



Steve Nash may be the worst coach in league history. I was stunned that a player with elite PG IQ had no feel for the game, rotations, time outs, etc.

Coaching is an entirely different animal

Totally agree. He didn't just lose the locker room, the locker room tried to get him fired to play without a coach. So please add his total inability to lead to your short list of atributes.
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Post#288 » by Deeeez Knicks » Sat Jun 14, 2025 6:08 pm

Give me Johnnie Bryant out of most of the other candidates
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Post#289 » by 3toheadmelo » Sat Jun 14, 2025 6:11 pm

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I think Thibs and Jenkins would be close, especially in today’s NBA

I think what Thibs has done with the Knicks is much more impressive than what Jenkins has done with Memphis


I don’t think it’s about who is more impressive. It’s about a different philosophy in what most teams want in a coach. Jenkins also got a raw deal with the Morant suspension.

To me it’s all about results. Thibs took on a rebuilding Knicks team and turned it into a championship contending team. So the bar is extremely high for our next coach.

I’m not saying Jenkins is a bad coach. And he definitely was done dirty by Memphis towards the end. But it’s all about how far can you take a team. Hence why a lot of Memphis fans are saying he’s not the guy you want to take to your team to another level. He has a pretty bad playoff record.

I would definitely choose Thibs over Jenkins all day if you’re a team that wants to win a chip. There’s no doubt about it for me. That’s not saying Jenkins won’t be able to lead us to a chip, but Thibs has a proven track record and has gotten further than Jenkins in the playoffs. Hes a safer bet than Jenkins in my eyes.
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Post#290 » by MrDollarBills » Sat Jun 14, 2025 6:12 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:Well damn.. decided to see how Memphis fans feel about Jenkins and it aint too good..they make it sound like he’s a coach for a rebuilding team.














Oh hell no.

I suppose it all depends on which fans were quoted, and how they were selected. If you asked Knicks fans, you'd hear:
"Thibs was the best ever." "Thibs sucks." "Thibs is everything in between."


That's true but those negative comments give me pause. A lot of stuff they're saying is what I was saying about Thibs. No thanks.
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Post#291 » by 3toheadmelo » Sat Jun 14, 2025 6:12 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:Well damn.. decided to see how Memphis fans feel about Jenkins and it aint too good..they make it sound like he’s a coach for a rebuilding team.

definitely a floor raising coach. Honestly the completely opposite of Thibs outside of the defensive identity. Stars play low 30s in minutes and he trusts his depth alot(11 man rotations in the first quarter). He doesnt really have an offensive identity but defensively he loves overhelping on drives. A really bad Con is he has a pretty bad feel for the game, like bad management of timeouts and bad clutch time execution.

He also gets the tag of a development coach because of alot of the developedplayers on the team (Santi, Wells, Bane, etc)



Not the coach yall need

Taylor is a builder…not a take you to the next level guy

He’s the guy you hire when you start a rebuild…not when you’re already good


Great at developing young talent, horrible in game


He’s an Ace at developing young talent, but hilariously bad at X’s & O’s. His rotations will have you confused, horny and mad. Sometimes all 3 at once. Be prepared to see your top scorers benched for half the quarter.


Can’t scheme any defense that doesn’t involve overcommitting on the inside and just praying the other team misses open 3 pointers.

Good at developing young talent though


i like the guy and hope he succeeds wherever he ends up, and think it’s possible, but he will have to self reflect and really learn from his grizzlies tenure. if he’s the same coach he was with us, it won’t work. he’s very rigid in his decision making and was often way too late in pivoting whether it was in game or throughout the season. he also kind of struggles in late game situations, he just doesn’t have great feel in my opinion. the turning point in our season was the 3 consecutive buzzer beater losses and he was maybe the biggest cause of all three of those. there’s more to be said, but he brings a lot of positive as well and it could work if how things played out lit a fire under him. you could do much worse


Oh hell no.

Youthful Thibs :lol:
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Post#292 » by Fury » Sat Jun 14, 2025 6:17 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
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3toheadmelo wrote:I think what Thibs has done with the Knicks is much more impressive than what Jenkins has done with Memphis


I don’t think it’s about who is more impressive. It’s about a different philosophy in what most teams want in a coach. Jenkins also got a raw deal with the Morant suspension.

To me it’s all about results. Thibs took on a rebuilding Knicks team and turned it into a championship contending team. So the bar is extremely high for our next coach.

I’m not saying Jenkins is a bad coach. And he definitely was done dirty by Memphis towards the end. But it’s all about how far can you take a team. Hence why a lot of Memphis fans are saying he’s not the guy you want to take to your team to another level. He has a pretty bad playoff record.

I would definitely choose Thibs over Jenkins all day if you’re a team that wants to win a chip. There’s no doubt about it for me. That’s not saying Jenkins won’t be able to lead us to a chip, but Thibs has a proven track record and has gotten further than Jenkins in the playoffs. Hes a safer bet than Jenkins in my eyes.


That’s to you but the way NBA teams operate now, it’s a different era. Front offices want more sway on how teams are ran. This may have been Thib’s last stop.
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Post#293 » by Capn'O » Sat Jun 14, 2025 6:20 pm

Regarding Jenkins, he had a team with a lot of young, developing pieces. We don't really know how he'd manage a more developed group, nor how he'd interact with this management group. That's what you interview for.
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Post#294 » by Fury » Sat Jun 14, 2025 6:24 pm

Capn'O wrote:Regarding Jenkins, he had a team with a lot of young, developing pieces. We don't really know how he'd manage a more developed group, nor how he'd interact with this management group. That's what you interview for.


All I can say about Jenkins is not many coaches would allow all their assistants to get fired, and I don’t know if it’s a good thing or bad thing that he allowed it to happen but the fact that he was willing to be that flexible is something that front offices would like.

What’s happening in MLB is happening in the NBA. It’s not about the coach or manager as much as the front office and organization as a whole.
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Post#295 » by 3toheadmelo » Sat Jun 14, 2025 6:24 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:
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I don’t think it’s about who is more impressive. It’s about a different philosophy in what most teams want in a coach. Jenkins also got a raw deal with the Morant suspension.

To me it’s all about results. Thibs took on a rebuilding Knicks team and turned it into a championship contending team. So the bar is extremely high for our next coach.

I’m not saying Jenkins is a bad coach. And he definitely was done dirty by Memphis towards the end. But it’s all about how far can you take a team. Hence why a lot of Memphis fans are saying he’s not the guy you want to take to your team to another level. He has a pretty bad playoff record.

I would definitely choose Thibs over Jenkins all day if you’re a team that wants to win a chip. There’s no doubt about it for me. That’s not saying Jenkins won’t be able to lead us to a chip, but Thibs has a proven track record and has gotten further than Jenkins in the playoffs. Hes a safer bet than Jenkins in my eyes.


That’s to you but the way NBA teams operate now, it’s a different era. Front offices want more sway on how teams are ran. This may have been Thib’s last stop.

What philosophy does Jenkins have that thibs doesn’t in regards to the modern nba?
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Post#296 » by Fury » Sat Jun 14, 2025 6:26 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:To me it’s all about results. Thibs took on a rebuilding Knicks team and turned it into a championship contending team. So the bar is extremely high for our next coach.

I’m not saying Jenkins is a bad coach. And he definitely was done dirty by Memphis towards the end. But it’s all about how far can you take a team. Hence why a lot of Memphis fans are saying he’s not the guy you want to take to your team to another level. He has a pretty bad playoff record.

I would definitely choose Thibs over Jenkins all day if you’re a team that wants to win a chip. There’s no doubt about it for me. That’s not saying Jenkins won’t be able to lead us to a chip, but Thibs has a proven track record and has gotten further than Jenkins in the playoffs. Hes a safer bet than Jenkins in my eyes.


That’s to you but the way NBA teams operate now, it’s a different era. Front offices want more sway on how teams are ran. This may have been Thib’s last stop.

What philosophy does Jenkins have that thibs doesn’t in regards to the modern nba?


He’s way more flexible and will give into what the front office wants. I don’t know if it’s a good or bad thing but it’s something front offices would prefer.
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Post#297 » by 3toheadmelo » Sat Jun 14, 2025 6:27 pm

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That’s to you but the way NBA teams operate now, it’s a different era. Front offices want more sway on how teams are ran. This may have been Thib’s last stop.

What philosophy does Jenkins have that thibs doesn’t in regards to the modern nba?


He’s way more flexible and will give into what the front office wants. I don’t know if it’s a good or bad thing but it’s something front offices would prefer.

Flexible in what ways? And what do you mean give into the front office
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Post#298 » by 3toheadmelo » Sat Jun 14, 2025 6:27 pm

Capn'O wrote:Regarding Jenkins, he had a team with a lot of young, developing pieces. We don't really know how he'd manage a more developed group, nor how he'd interact with this management group. That's what you interview for.

Jenkins is a bit of a wild card. But I’m willing to take him on over Mike brown. You already know what you’re getting with Brown.
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Post#299 » by Guano » Sat Jun 14, 2025 6:29 pm

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I should slap down some scratch on Johnnie Bryant :lol:


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Post#300 » by Fury » Sat Jun 14, 2025 6:29 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:What philosophy does Jenkins have that thibs doesn’t in regards to the modern nba?


He’s way more flexible and will give into what the front office wants. I don’t know if it’s a good or bad thing but it’s something front offices would prefer.

Flexible in what ways? And what do you mean give into the front office


As in revamping the entire offense and firing assistants who have been friends for years. Thibs would’ve told them to **** off.

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