Raps trying to trade us Lowry...

Knicks_Fan2 · Post #301 » by **Knicks_Fan2** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:22 pm

greenhughes wrote:
ORANGEandBLUE wrote:If Felton is equivalent to Lowry, why do the Raps have a better record than us?

did not know one player made a team...

How in any world are they equivalent?

KNIXFAN_83 · Post #302 » by **KNIXFAN_83** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:22 pm

Fury wrote:
Knicks_Fan2 wrote:
KnicksGod wrote:Felton, JR and Aldrich for Lowry and Fields. It works.

JR can't be traded until Jan 15, I believe.

god shammgod · Post #303 » by **god shammgod** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:22 pm

lowry is not great. but all our guards are terrible this year and they're trying to save the season.

Knicks_Fan2 · Post #304 » by **Knicks_Fan2** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:22 pm

MaseInYourFace wrote:I've seen Lowry a lot too. Going back to when he was in college. Good player but I think some of you have serious grass is greener on other side syndrome. He is not way better than Felton. He is better. He has bad tendencies just like Felton but he won't kill you as much as Felton does.

He is actually better in every single way than Felton this season.

RHODEY · Post #305 » by **RHODEY** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:23 pm

GoodAzzGame_NYK wrote:
RHODEY wrote:
GoodAzzGame_NYK wrote:
do you research anything?

last 4 years from 3

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he avg like one 3 a game for his first few years and wasn't good he has taken 4-5 over the past 4 years and has been good.

facts man, they are good you should try them sometimes.

The biggest disparity is with 3pt shooting is this year . Felton is @ %28 but I think his injuries have a lot to do with that. Lowry is a better 3pt shooter overall but it's a marginal better. He's not "Throw in Shumpert or a 1st rounder better". If you compare overall FG% Felton and Lowry are nearly identical.

fair enough, but now lets talk about the disparity of lowry's defense compared to felton's

He's light years ahead of a gimpy Felton. That is my issue with all of this. We are making moves based on low end play. Felton is no Chris Paul but when healthy he's alright. Would anyone have entertained this type of trade last season?

I get that Feltons play is trash right now and I'm open to moving him, but I be damned if we give away our best trade assets as throw ins.

sol537 · Post #306 » by **sol537** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:23 pm

send them the tank commanders: Amare and JR lol

damedash09 · Post #307 » by **damedash09** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:23 pm

FIX THIS WITH INTERNAL PERSONNEL, PLAY TOURE MURRY. HE COULD BE THE ANSWER FOR FREE. BAD ORGANIZATIONS DO BAD THINGS!

WhyISO · Post #308 » by **WhyISO** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:23 pm

I'll take anything at this point.

Lowry is a small upgrade over Felton.

BeagleBoss · Post #309 » by **BeagleBoss** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:23 pm

This team needs a trade so I'm all for Lowry. Shumpert keeps declining so if he needs to be included, so be it. Kid sucks. He really does! Landry Fields 2.0. Shumpert will never average 10 ppg in his career and he hasn't played D since his rookie season. And he's mentally WEAK with fake hustle.

rapsanity · Post #310 » by **rapsanity** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:23 pm

greenhughes wrote:
DUNPHY wrote:If you dont think Lowry is better than Felton youre crazy! Lowry came into camp in shape and has played great all year!

don't care. keep your trash

Boy you gotta start watching him play. This guy's a pit bull out there...pure grit and grind

Don't want to trade him for just Shump + Felton anyways

But just sayin that he isn't trash..he's actually a good player

Realistically, he's probably your only chance at getting out of mediocracy and giving Denver Wiggins on a silver platter

god shammgod · Post #311 » by **god shammgod** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:24 pm

Knicks_Fan2 wrote:
MaseInYourFace wrote:I've seen Lowry a lot too. Going back to when he was in college. Good player but I think some of you have serious grass is greener on other side syndrome. He is not way better than Felton. He is better. He has bad tendencies just like Felton but he won't kill you as much as Felton does.

He is actually better in every single way than Felton this season.

which is what it's about. felton has one of those lingering issues that might last a long time. they're trying to fix us for this year.

Rasho Brezec · Post #312 » by **Rasho Brezec** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:24 pm

Now that I think about it, Felton + Shumpert + Hardaway Jr makes so much sense if you're dealing with an incompetent FO like ours, it's definitely going to happen. Ross hasn't improved at all from his rookie season and Hardaway Jr is already better than him. It's happening.

Post #313 » by **mpharris36** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:24 pm

MaseInYourFace wrote:I've seen Lowry a lot too. Going back to when he was in college. Good player but I think some of you have serious grass is greener on other side syndrome. He is not way better than Felton. He is better. He has bad tendencies just like Felton but he won't kill you as much as Felton does.

just want to ask 2 simple questions

can lowry defend at a higher rate the felton?

can lowry make open 3's at a higher rate then felton?

MaseInYourFace · Post #314 » by **MaseInYourFace** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:24 pm

Knicks_Fan2 wrote:
MaseInYourFace wrote:I've seen Lowry a lot too. Going back to when he was in college. Good player but I think some of you have serious grass is greener on other side syndrome. He is not way better than Felton. He is better. He has bad tendencies just like Felton but he won't kill you as much as Felton does.

He is actually better in every single way than Felton this season.

Like I said before he is better in every facet, in totality though I do not believe he is way better.

knickabocker88 · Post #315 » by **knickabocker88** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:25 pm

Lowry can defend rebound, there was a period in Houston where was putting up close to Triple Doubles.

Eat Fields contract, hang up the phone if they ask for THjr or Shump

A Lineup of

Lowry
Prigs
Shump
Melo
Tyson

To Close out games

god shammgod · Post #316 » by **god shammgod** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:25 pm

Rasho Brezec wrote:Now that I think about it, Felton + Shumpert + Hardaway Jr makes so much sense if you're dealing with an incompetent FO like ours, it's definitely going to happen. Ross hasn't improved at all from his rookie season and Hardaway Jr is already better than him. It's happening.

your soul is pure evil

Fury · Post #317 » by **Fury** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:25 pm

Lowry is better than Felton when Felton is 100% ride or die, ima a NY bulldog bull s hit that we fall for. He's better by a decent amount.

islanders11040 · Post #318 » by **islanders11040** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:25 pm

rapsanity wrote:
god shammgod wrote:
rapsanity wrote:To be honest, Lowry's a really good point guard. I think he'll be a good fit on your team. The only reason we want to get rid of him is because of our tank. If we had a competitive team, would love to keep him.

He's a pitbull out there. Good defence and a good 3 point shot. He's not a playmaking PG but he brings that tough and grit that's lacking in point guards these days.

Sorry to say but doesn't seem likely we'll be making a trade with you guys. No picks and getting Shump when we already have a logjam at SG doesn't make sense.

There's only two explanations for this. Either there's a third team involved where Shump goes or Masai is using you guys to bring the value of Klow up

you're rebuilding. log jams are meaningless. shump is still on a rookie contract next year. he's an asset. you might build up his value there.

He's a RFA this offseason though?

From the rumours I've been reading about, he thinks his value is a lot higher than it should be.

There's no way I want to make this trade and them see Shump demand 9-10 mill +

nope not this summer. the next one

MaseInYourFace · Post #319 » by **MaseInYourFace** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:25 pm

GoodAzzGame_NYK wrote:
MaseInYourFace wrote:I've seen Lowry a lot too. Going back to when he was in college. Good player but I think some of you have serious grass is greener on other side syndrome. He is not way better than Felton. He is better. He has bad tendencies just like Felton but he won't kill you as much as Felton does.

just want to ask 2 simple questions

can lowry defend at a higher rate the felton?

can lowry make open 3's at a higher rate then felton?

Yes but he can be lazy there too. I've seen it repeatedly.

Yes but he's streaky. Overall he's a better shooter than Felton though.

Knicks_Fan2 · Post #320 » by **Knicks_Fan2** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:26 pm

MaseInYourFace wrote:
Knicks_Fan2 wrote:
MaseInYourFace wrote:I've seen Lowry a lot too. Going back to when he was in college. Good player but I think some of you have serious grass is greener on other side syndrome. He is not way better than Felton. He is better. He has bad tendencies just like Felton but he won't kill you as much as Felton does.

He is actually better in every single way than Felton this season.

Like I said before he is better in every facet, in totality though I do not believe he is way better.

TS% alone Lowry is TEN PERCENTAGE POINTS better.