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Re: Melo Trade Thread "Ice Cube Family movie edition" 

Post#301 » by drekwins » Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:15 pm

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Knicksrule2k4 wrote:Melo is def going to Houston. We just have to worry about our return. Mike pretty much confirmed it with that comment


if hes definitely going, whats the holdup?


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Re: Melo Trade Thread "Ice Cube Family movie edition" 

Post#302 » by VirginiaKnickFan » Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:16 pm

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Re: Melo Trade Thread "Ice Cube Family movie edition" 

Post#303 » by magnumt » Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:16 pm

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Yeah but we could also trade for somebody else.


Or over complicate things like we have been and get stuck. :(

Either way, I personally wouldn't be totally mad absorbing a contract that is 3-4 years if it'll help move Melo. Assuming we get SOME assets in return.

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It's layers to this, Mags and he smashes the whole cake. I'd take Ryan Anderson 3 times before him. Yeah, assets included there too.


Yeah, same here. I'd prefer Anderson 100 times over Jackson.

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Re: Melo Trade Thread "Ice Cube Family movie edition" 

Post#304 » by robillionaire » Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:16 pm

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Re: Melo Trade Thread "Ice Cube Family movie edition" 

Post#305 » by Traveyknicks23 » Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:16 pm

RHODEY wrote:
Knicksrule2k4 wrote:Melo is def going to Houston. We just have to worry about our return. Mike pretty much confirmed it with that comment


if hes definitely going, whats the holdup?

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Re: Melo Trade Thread "Ice Cube Family movie edition" 

Post#306 » by AmazingJason » Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:16 pm

RHODEY wrote:
Knicksrule2k4 wrote:Melo is def going to Houston. We just have to worry about our return. Mike pretty much confirmed it with that comment


if hes definitely going, whats the holdup?


The holdup is 4 or 5 teams playing hot potato with Meyers Leonard or Reggie Jackson.
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Re: Melo Trade Thread "Ice Cube Family movie edition" 

Post#307 » by Knicksrule2k4 » Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:16 pm

RHODEY wrote:
Knicksrule2k4 wrote:Melo is def going to Houston. We just have to worry about our return. Mike pretty much confirmed it with that comment


if hes definitely going, whats the holdup?


Trying not to upstage the espys or the all star game before that lol
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Re: Melo Trade Thread "Ice Cube Family movie edition" 

Post#308 » by NoLayupRule » Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:17 pm

ok

this is my 4 team deal

NY sends Melo, Thomas and Lee out
NY gets Reggies Jackson, Stanley Johnson, Chandler Parsons, Andrew Harrison, Houston 2020 1st round pick, Houston 2022 1st round pick top 10 protected


Houston trades Ryan Anderson, Eric Gordon, Trevor Ariza, 2020 1st round pick, 2022 1st round pick top 10 protected, 2018 2nd round pick
Houston gets Carmelo and Courtney Lee

Detroit trades Reggies Jackson and Stanley Johnson
Detroit gets Ryan Anderson, Memphis 2018 lottery protected pick and Houston 2018 2nd round pick


Memphis Trades Chadler Parsons, Andrew Harrison, 2018 lottery protected
Memphis gets Lance Thomas, Eric Gordon, Trevor Ariza

why oh why?

Memphis - they are gutted and committed to something. Gasol and Conley are alone out there right now and Parsons has been a failure. They move Parsons contract and get three rotation players. Thomas fits in perfectly off the bench, Gordon starts at the 2 and Ariza starts at the 3. They all fit perfectly. Major team upgrade on both ends. Costs them a pick.


Det - they move Jackson, which is a priority, and it costs them Johnson, which they can live with. Except they get Memphis' pick so its cool. they love it.


Houston - they get Melo. Its gonna cost them though. The do move Anderson's contract but have to move Ariza and Gordon too. Lee fits in perfectly with them as an Ariza/Gordon replacement. Besides they have Paul and Harden and Melo. They need an off the ball defender like Lee, not Gordon.



NY - we lose melo and have to take on some contracts. Jackson is our starting PG. Its not pretty or popular but its ok. Parsons is our starting SF. Its very popular. He's gonna be a chick magnet and popular player in NY despite his contract and injury issues. However the real gems are 2 picks from Houston, Stanley Johnson who actually might be the starting SF and Harrison who we liked in the draft. Its not the best return but it keep people from getting fired and skewered in the press.

two picks, an young upside guy of quality, a potentially upside PG who can run and score with THjr, and a charismatic SF who can space the floor and moves the ball well and is best on a bad team where he's not the primary offense.


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Re: Melo Trade Thread "Ice Cube Family movie edition" 

Post#309 » by robillionaire » Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:17 pm

drekwins wrote:
RHODEY wrote:
Knicksrule2k4 wrote:Melo is def going to Houston. We just have to worry about our return. Mike pretty much confirmed it with that comment


if hes definitely going, whats the holdup?


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Sounds like a better deal than we usually get! Get hype!
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Post#310 » by phatmanscoop » Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:17 pm

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Why on earth would POR do this?



Around the draft they were looking to shed some Salary, doing this gives them a Stretch 4 to put next to Nurkic as well as shedding about 8-9 million in salary


They are going to shed 8 mil in cap space at the cost of a promising youngster and a 1st rounder??

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Nope... I dont see it.


That 8 Million is closer to 28 million after the Luxury Tax so yes, I think they would
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Re: Melo Trade Thread "Ice Cube Family movie edition" 

Post#311 » by putiger78 » Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:18 pm

Contract/salary management and trade management are really different skill sets. I don't think the THJ deal is a harbinger for a bad trade. The length of the negotiations is a good thing. We have very little incentive to get this done early (unless you value signing some veteran to a 1 year deal as a pressing need) and even though Melo's NTC is a detriment, Houston has the realistic threat of Cleveland swooping in. I don't think we are the motivated party. These teams need him, this isn't a nice to have for them.
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Re: Melo Trade Thread "Ice Cube Family movie edition" 

Post#312 » by VirginiaKnickFan » Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:18 pm

RHODEY wrote:
Knicksrule2k4 wrote:Melo is def going to Houston. We just have to worry about our return. Mike pretty much confirmed it with that comment


if hes definitely going, whats the holdup?


You're talking about 3-4 teams negotiating and there's always the possibility some other team(s) decides to jump in.
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Re: Melo Trade Thread "Ice Cube Family movie edition" 

Post#313 » by Sark » Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:18 pm

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You should jump for joy that Timmy is here....



It's fine that he's back, but we did overpay.
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Re: Melo Trade Thread "Ice Cube Family movie edition" 

Post#314 » by robillionaire » Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:18 pm

NoLayupRule wrote:ok

this is my 4 team deal

NY sends Melo, Thomas and Lee out
NY gets Reggies Jackson, Stanley Johnson, Chandler Parsons, Andrew Harrison, Houston 2020 1st round pick, Houston 2022 1st round pick top 10 protected


Houston trades Ryan Anderson, Eric Gordon, Trevor Ariza, 2020 1st round pick, 2022 1st round pick top 10 protected, 2018 2nd round pick
Houston gets Carmelo and Courtney Lee

Detroit trades Reggies Jackson and Stanley Johnson
Detroit gets Ryan Anderson, Memphis 2018 lottery protected pick and Houston 2018 2nd round pick


Memphis Trades Chadler Parsons, Andrew Harrison, 2018 lottery protected
Memphis gets Lance Thomas, Eric Gordon, Trevor Ariza

why oh why?

Memphis - they are gutted and committed to something. Gasol and Conley are alone out there right now and Parsons has been a failure. They move Parsons contract and get three rotation players. Thomas fits in perfectly off the bench, Gordon starts at the 2 and Ariza starts at the 3. They all fit perfectly. Major team upgrade on both ends. Costs them a pick.


Det - they move Jackson, which is a priority, and it costs them Johnson, which they can live with. Except they get Memphis' pick so its cool. they love it.


Houston - they get Melo. Its gonna cost them though. The do move Anderson's contract but have to move Ariza and Gordon too. Lee fits in perfectly with them as an Ariza/Gordon replacement. Besides they have Paul and Harden and Melo. They need an off the ball defender like Lee, not Gordon.



NY - we lose melo and have to take on some contracts. Jackson is our starting PG. Its not pretty or popular but its ok. Parsons is our starting SF. Its very popular. He's gonna be a chick magnet and popular player in NY despite his contract and injury issues. However the real gems are 2 picks from Houston, Stanley Johnson who actually might be the starting SF and Harrison who we liked in the draft. Its not the best return but it keep people from getting fired and skewered in the press.

two picks, an young upside guy of quality, a potentially upside PG who can run and score with THjr, and a charismatic SF who can space the floor and moves the ball well and is best on a bad team where he's not the primary offense.


thoughts?


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Re: Melo Trade Thread "Ice Cube Family movie edition" 

Post#316 » by DE FENSE » Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:19 pm

drekwins wrote:
RHODEY wrote:
Knicksrule2k4 wrote:Melo is def going to Houston. We just have to worry about our return. Mike pretty much confirmed it with that comment


if hes definitely going, whats the holdup?


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Re: Melo Trade Thread "Ice Cube Family movie edition" 

Post#317 » by Traveyknicks23 » Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:19 pm

drekwins wrote:
RHODEY wrote:
Knicksrule2k4 wrote:Melo is def going to Houston. We just have to worry about our return. Mike pretty much confirmed it with that comment


if hes definitely going, whats the holdup?


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Re: Melo Trade Thread "Ice Cube Family movie edition" 

Post#318 » by AmazingJason » Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:19 pm

robillionaire wrote:
NoLayupRule wrote:ok

this is my 4 team deal

NY sends Melo, Thomas and Lee out
NY gets Reggies Jackson, Stanley Johnson, Chandler Parsons, Andrew Harrison, Houston 2020 1st round pick, Houston 2022 1st round pick top 10 protected


Houston trades Ryan Anderson, Eric Gordon, Trevor Ariza, 2020 1st round pick, 2022 1st round pick top 10 protected, 2018 2nd round pick
Houston gets Carmelo and Courtney Lee

Detroit trades Reggies Jackson and Stanley Johnson
Detroit gets Ryan Anderson, Memphis 2018 lottery protected pick and Houston 2018 2nd round pick


Memphis Trades Chadler Parsons, Andrew Harrison, 2018 lottery protected
Memphis gets Lance Thomas, Eric Gordon, Trevor Ariza

why oh why?

Memphis - they are gutted and committed to something. Gasol and Conley are alone out there right now and Parsons has been a failure. They move Parsons contract and get three rotation players. Thomas fits in perfectly off the bench, Gordon starts at the 2 and Ariza starts at the 3. They all fit perfectly. Major team upgrade on both ends. Costs them a pick.


Det - they move Jackson, which is a priority, and it costs them Johnson, which they can live with. Except they get Memphis' pick so its cool. they love it.


Houston - they get Melo. Its gonna cost them though. The do move Anderson's contract but have to move Ariza and Gordon too. Lee fits in perfectly with them as an Ariza/Gordon replacement. Besides they have Paul and Harden and Melo. They need an off the ball defender like Lee, not Gordon.



NY - we lose melo and have to take on some contracts. Jackson is our starting PG. Its not pretty or popular but its ok. Parsons is our starting SF. Its very popular. He's gonna be a chick magnet and popular player in NY despite his contract and injury issues. However the real gems are 2 picks from Houston, Stanley Johnson who actually might be the starting SF and Harrison who we liked in the draft. Its not the best return but it keep people from getting fired and skewered in the press.

two picks, an young upside guy of quality, a potentially upside PG who can run and score with THjr, and a charismatic SF who can space the floor and moves the ball well and is best on a bad team where he's not the primary offense.


thoughts?


I will kill myself on the spot if they send us Chandler parsons

Is this a joke

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Re: Melo Trade Thread "Ice Cube Family movie edition" 

Post#319 » by SelbyCobra » Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:19 pm

Parsons' contract is worse than Noah's!
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Re: Melo Trade Thread "Ice Cube Family movie edition" 

Post#320 » by Knicksfan1992 » Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:20 pm

RHODEY wrote:
Knicksrule2k4 wrote:Melo is def going to Houston. We just have to worry about our return. Mike pretty much confirmed it with that comment


if hes definitely going, whats the holdup?


Probably Houston trying to hold on to as much as possible/figuring out which 4th team offers the best landing spot for one of the chit contracts that has to go out there. It's too public now. It has to go through at this point. Just a matter of time and logistics I would assume

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