Tom Thibodeau To The Knicks 90% Likely!

F N 11 · Post #301 » by **F N 11** » Tue Apr 21, 2020 4:46 pm

Atkinson was not media driven. They had nobody and he made Brooklyn watchable. Give him some defensive guys along with scorers he could probably figure something out with this team. We have not played modern basketball since Woodie.

3toheadmelo · Post #302 » by **3toheadmelo** » Tue Apr 21, 2020 4:48 pm

Bumping it. Read it!

3toheadmelo wrote:Back on topic. I am accepting Thibs will be our next hire even though I think Kenny should be the one. So I will try to talk my self into him. This is a good read about Thibs from a Bulls fan perspective. Talks about if he really ran players into the ground, if he can fit into the modern era.. etc. In summary, he belives that Thibs is not overrated, but actually a successful coach.

Read on Twitter

Post #303 » by **DOT** » Tue Apr 21, 2020 4:52 pm

HEZI wrote:
K-DOT wrote:Thibs also gave Gorgui Dieng a 64 million dollar contract to be a backup

He also wanted Kris Dunn in the draft instead of Jamal Murray. Then he desperately wanted Jimmy Butler so they had to trade Zach Lavine and Lauri Markkanen for him.

Thibs was carried by Derrick Rose, his strategy for the Bulls was give Rose the ball, that was it. Thibs yells a lot but he's lost his locker room numerous times with different teams.

If our options are Thibs or Atkinson, the obvious choice is Atkinson

I compare Thibs a lot to D'Antoni

He has a "gimmick" that makes his teams good on one end of the floor that was revolutionary a decade ago, but has become standard for modern teams

It's also the difference of, with the Bulls, Thibs was gifted several really good young players (Rose, Noah, and Deng were all under 25 and all had been top 10 picks), and they played like it. In Minny, he had even more talent in terms of draft capital, but the only one who's really lived up to his pick has been KAT, everyone else has underperformed. With Atkinson, he got a bunch of cast-offs to play way above their talent level as a group. Like, if you went back to 2016 and told us that the Nets would have a winning record in 3 years, nobody would believe you, cause they had no high talent young players or top picks. DLo yes, but they traded for him cause LA thought he wasn't that good and used him to dump Mozgov's salary, but other than that, none of their players were lottery picks

HEZI · Post #304 » by **HEZI** » Tue Apr 21, 2020 5:05 pm

K-DOT wrote:
HEZI wrote:
K-DOT wrote:Thibs also gave Gorgui Dieng a 64 million dollar contract to be a backup

He also wanted Kris Dunn in the draft instead of Jamal Murray. Then he desperately wanted Jimmy Butler so they had to trade Zach Lavine and Lauri Markkanen for him.

Thibs was carried by Derrick Rose, his strategy for the Bulls was give Rose the ball, that was it. Thibs yells a lot but he's lost his locker room numerous times with different teams.

If our options are Thibs or Atkinson, the obvious choice is Atkinson

I compare Thibs a lot to D'Antoni

He has a "gimmick" that makes his teams good on one end of the floor that was revolutionary a decade ago, but has become standard for modern teams

It's also the difference of, with the Bulls, Thibs was gifted several really good young players (Rose, Noah, and Deng were all under 25 and all had been top 10 picks), and they played like it. In Minny, he had even more talent in terms of draft capital, but the only one who's really lived up to his pick has been KAT, everyone else has underperformed. With Atkinson, he got a bunch of cast-offs to play way above their talent level as a group. Like, if you went back to 2016 and told us that the Nets would have a winning record in 3 years, nobody would believe you, cause they had no high talent young players or top picks. DLo yes, but they traded for him cause LA thought he wasn't that good and used him to dump Mozgov's salary, but other than that, none of their players were lottery picks

Atkinson comes from the DAntoni coaching tree and he's basically just copy pasted his chuck and duck philosophy. I don't see Atkinson as some development guru, he just simply understands the basic principle of pace and space and he got it from Dantoni. The other thing is that Thibs coached in the Western Conference and it's a lot tougher out there than in the East. Atkinson wouldn't have seen much success in the West either but since he's in the weak East it's a lot easier to get to .500 and sneak into the playoffs.

Thibs is more of like a Stan Van Gundy type of coach imo, where his voice just gets annoying after a while and his constant yelling causes players to just tune him out after time and really he's not some innovative coach to begin with so his success strongly depends on star players having to carry him.

iLLmatic860 · Post #305 » by **iLLmatic860** » Tue Apr 21, 2020 5:09 pm

K-DOT wrote:Thibs also gave Gorgui Dieng a 64 million dollar contract to be a backup

Which is why he should never make basketball decisions outside of coaching

Post #306 » by **moocow007** » Tue Apr 21, 2020 5:36 pm

DaT WaVeY RiCaN wrote:
K-DOT wrote:Thibs also gave Gorgui Dieng a 64 million dollar contract to be a backup

Which is why he should never make basketball decisions outside of coaching

Yep. If they were hiring Thibs to be the GM then I'd be super concerned.

Post #307 » by **moocow007** » Tue Apr 21, 2020 5:44 pm

K-DOT wrote:Thibs also gave Gorgui Dieng a 64 million dollar contract to be a backup

We'd be hiring Thibs to be the head coach not the GM. Thibs like Jackson had no right to be running a front office cause they had absolutely no experience doing it. My reaction when I heard the Wolves were making him "master of everything" was the same when i heard the Knicks were hiring Jackson not to be the head coach but the front office lead.

thebuzzardman · Post #308 » by **thebuzzardman** » Tue Apr 21, 2020 9:01 pm

After reading some of these comments, I've made up my mind:

Spoiler:

blanko · Post #309 » by **blanko** » Wed Apr 22, 2020 5:17 am

NoLayupRule wrote:
blanko wrote:
NoLayupRule wrote:he had a ton of young talent in Mini and he turned most of it over into vets who would play his game
then they didnt work out and he traded Butler

hot mess in Mini
you can't give Thibs a pass for his time there
What talented winning players has he had in minny?

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he had Butler, Towns, Wiggins, Rose, Teague, Saric, Levine, etc etc

he had plenty of talent, old and young
he didn't make it work

The only winner in that group is butler. The rest are looser with tibbs and without tibbs.

KAT is derrick coleman 3.0 after boogie

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thebuzzardman · Post #310 » by **thebuzzardman** » Wed Apr 22, 2020 3:51 pm

Knicks hire Thibs yet?

KnicksGadfly · Post #311 » by **KnicksGadfly** » Wed Apr 22, 2020 4:10 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:Knicks hire Thibs yet?

Might have. The media might be covering for Leon Rose and Dolan again, and refusing to ask the difficult questions.

jvsimonetti0514 · Post #312 » by **jvsimonetti0514** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 5:47 pm

Read on Twitter

My guess this is already a done deal.

3toheadmelo · Post #313 » by **3toheadmelo** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 5:58 pm

jvsimonetti0514 wrote:

Read on Twitter

My guess this is already a done deal.

On the bright side, I would take Thibs over all of those Net's candidates besides JVG

HEZI · Post #314 » by **HEZI** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 6:00 pm

I don't think the Nets fired Atkinson other than to hire superstar puppet himself Ty Lue

Jay10 · Post #315 » by **Jay10** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 6:01 pm

jvsimonetti0514 wrote:

Read on Twitter

My guess this is already a done deal.

I think it ends up being Thibodeau dealing with the defense, while Mike Miller deals with the offense.

Jay10 · Post #316 » by **Jay10** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 6:10 pm

I think Becky Hammond will get the Nets' job.

jvsimonetti0514 · Post #317 » by **jvsimonetti0514** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 6:23 pm

Jay10 wrote:
jvsimonetti0514 wrote:

Read on Twitter

My guess this is already a done deal.

I think it ends up being Thibodeau dealing with the defense, while Mike Miller deals with the offense.

Miller's a defensive guy too. I'd prefer it be Kenny as head coach with Miller as the lead assistant but I won't be too upset about Thibs.

god shammgod · Post #318 » by **god shammgod** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 6:34 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
jvsimonetti0514 wrote:

Read on Twitter

My guess this is already a done deal.

On the bright side, I would take Thibs over all of those Net's candidates besides JVG

i was just about to say. this front office is your heroes ? shame on you.

Triple C · Post #319 » by **Triple C** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 6:58 pm

god shammgod wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
jvsimonetti0514 wrote:

Read on Twitter

My guess this is already a done deal.

On the bright side, I would take Thibs over all of those Net's candidates besides JVG

i was just about to say. this front office is your heroes ? shame on you.

Sham I remember you being on team Thibs before we ended up hiring Hornacek, do you still want him?

iLLmatic860 · Post #320 » by **iLLmatic860** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 7:02 pm

Jay10 wrote:I think Becky Hammond will get the Nets' job.

I dont think thats fair to have the first women head coach in history to deal with personalities like Kyrie and KD.