PG: Knicks unclutch fall to Magic, Randle and Divo miss crucial freethrows

[sol537]

Siakam + Poetl for Randle + Mitch + Fournier

Trash for trash

[Clyde_Style]

Didn't watch the G-League Knicks and their inevitable loss. No Brunson, me no watch. You all should have saved 2 hours of your life

I used that time today to rescue a basket of drowning kittens

They kept meowing "The big bird, the big bird"

What do you think that means?

[stuporman]

Zion seems to be the opposite 'lazy' as Randle, he's active on the floor in playing but he doesn't work hard like Randle to improve. Lots of playing activity but not enough hard work.

If you put their brain together with their bodies either could be one of the best players to ever play the game but as it appears they are now, they are a couple of NBA players...good ones, even great...at times.

Neither are great enough to win a title as the best player of the team, maybe not even the second best on a title team...I'm even starting to wonder if you can win a title depending on them to be a top 3 player on the team.

[Clyde_Style]

it's hard to say right now if the knicks are any better after this trade. they need a follow up one or they may be worse or the same for now.

The way they played after the trade was amazing. Makes me believe they are more than capable of playing better. Missing Brunson matters, but ORL was missing Wagner. I think the drop-off is very much due to Thibs burning out key players and that is a coaching issue.

[Phish Tank]

Thibs, Hart, and inexplicably poor FT shooting (also Thibs)... we should've won by double digits tbh.

[Jalen Bluntson]

If someone thinks they won when the player the nut hang on lazily dogs it into their team losing is a player fan, not a team fan.

[Clyde_Style]

i wouldn't trade for anyone we have to give up too much for right now. a lot of you seem to think we're closer than we actually are. murray will help but the knicks need to save their assets for someone better.

It's like I said the other day: Fully healthy, we could make a run, but that's not the same as building a contender. Lose one key player and we might collapse.

And here we are. Without Brunson, we're not that good.

With Thibs, the odds of staying fully healthy for the playoffs has a very low probability.

The Upshot? Forget about this season and plan your best next move, whatever it is.

The only two to build around are Brunson and OG. If you hold on to Deuce, iHart and Mitch, that's cool, but the bottom line are those are the two absolutely foundational players we have.

So we're still building a team and we don't have the depth at PG or the Front Court to withstand injuries.

[HighRyzer83]

Randle for CAA's own Zion Williamson? Who says no?

Trade Checker says:

Lazy Bastard for Fat Bastard

Approved!

If this trade was available we'd do it in a heartbeat. I'm pretty sure the pels value zion as a franchise player

[Clyde_Style]

I'm gonna go in on Grimes in a way I only go in on players I believe in that are letting me down. This motherfcker has GOT to stop playing so **** soft. He's hitting his shots again but he's still making the "right play" which means passing open shots and drives for a player he perceives to have better position. Perfect example in Q2 today when he took the lane and tried to pass in traffic to Precious instead of taking the floater. Well... refs missed the call (Magic touched last) and Precious missed the ball and we got a jump ball at center court instead of a high percentage shot. He needs to take those and I'd limit his damn minutes too until he gets that. He's so close to being the player we need and his own stubbornness is holding him back. Slightly contested shots are always better than turnovers AND they'll open up his passing lanes when defenses take him as a threat. Take the damn shot, Q.

If Grimes gets any softer he'll be wearing a diaper

[Ursusamericanus]

Now that I've calmed down and had a good gym session... it's clear that we snatched defeat from the jaws of victory today, but we are 6-2 since the trade. If you told me that beforehand, especially with JB missing 2 games, I'd happily take it. It helps to zoom out and take the long view now and then.

Some concerns remain, and the roster is incomplete pending a move or two by the deadline, but I (humbly and cautiously) predict that we roll Houston and Washington later this week.

Still think we're on track for 35-20 by the all-star weekend (if JB is back for the Houston game).

[Clyde_Style]

I came here for angry sports yelling and wasn’t disappointed.

They should have dressed Jalen just to play the final 3 minutes. We would have won by 12.

The dude's our closer, we should've literally used him like a closer.

I love this idea. Announcers would be like "WHAT??? They brought Rivera out? Can they even do this???"

"Is that Willis Reed walking out of the tunnel?"
"No Mike, it's Jalen Brunson!"

[Clyde_Style]

Read on Twitter

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This.

Zion to NY. Make it happen.

Careful what you wish for. Way more restaurants and IG models here.

His uniform would be a beef patty

[cgf]

Theres the injury risk, but we was literally the best bench player in the NBA last season and wouldn't cost much at all.

2nd best

And he bitched about it so much that the Celtics were happy to be rid of him, despite him stealing that trophy from IQ.

I like Brogdon, would definitely prefer that gamble over the Murray gamble, but it is a gamble and it's not just his health.

Gamble compared to who? Lavine?

Man you guys are really obsessed with that dude, you just keep bringing him up :-/

What we should do is:

Fournier + NYK/DAL FRP + Sims <---> Bogdanovic (ATL)
Flynn + cash + SRP <---> Mills
Mills + WSH FRP <---> Gafford

Achiuwa + cash + SRP <---> Tate
Tate + NYK/DAL FRP <---> Caruso

plus 1 more SRP for the league office when they slap our wrist for cap circumvention, and we'd be loaded:

Brunson | Caruso | McBride
DiVincenzo | Bogdanovic
Anunoby | Hart | Grimes
Randle
Hartenstein | Robinson | Gafford
+ Arci

[RHODEY]

2nd best

And he bitched about it so much that the Celtics were happy to be rid of him, despite him stealing that trophy from IQ.

I like Brogdon, would definitely prefer that gamble over the Murray gamble, but it is a gamble and it's not just his health.

Gamble compared to who? Lavine?

Man you guys are really obsessed with that dude, you just keep bringing him up :-/

What we should do is:
Fournier + NYK/DAL FRP <---> Bogdanovic (ATL)
Flynn + cash + SRP <---> Mills
Mills + Sims + WSH FRP <---> Gafford

Achiuwa + cash + SRP <---> Tate
Tate + NYK/DAL FRP <---> Caruso


Brunson | Caruso | McBride | Arci
DiVincenzo | Bogdanovic
Anunoby | Hart | Grimes
Randle
Hartenstein | Robinson | Gafford

[cgf]

Gamble compared to who? Lavine?

Man you guys are really obsessed with that dude, you just keep bringing him up :-/

What we should do is:
Fournier + NYK/DAL FRP <---> Bogdanovic (ATL)
Flynn + cash + SRP <---> Mills
Mills + Sims + WSH FRP <---> Gafford

Achiuwa + cash + SRP <---> Tate
Tate + NYK/DAL FRP <---> Caruso


Brunson | Caruso | McBride | Arci
DiVincenzo | Bogdanovic
Anunoby | Hart | Grimes
Randle
Hartenstein | Robinson | Gafford

That would be a squad that was ready for a deep playoff run

[Buttah304]

Without Brunson we just don’t have a ball handler to calm things down. To play with poise when we’re letting go of the rope and to call out/execute plays when we need some organization. Someone who can ideally get our players in their most favorable spots on the floor while hitting shooters in rhythm. Feels like we play hot potato around the perimeter wasting valuable seconds off the clock. In this last stretch of games we’ve been prone to some brutally painful offensive scoring droughts. It’s not even just chalking things up to missing timely buckets - we have this incredible knack of looking rushed and stagnant at the very same time.

With so many teams fighting for spots 4-8 it’s not going to take much to fall off the tracks. Teams got better around us versus last season (Indy-Orlando) and other teams probably haven’t hit their stride quite yet (Miami-Cleveland).

[cgf]

Without Brunson we just don’t have a ball handler to calm things down. To play with poise when we’re letting go of the rope and to call out/execute plays when we need some organization. Someone who can ideally get our players in their most favorable spots on the floor while hitting shooters in rhythm. Feels like we play hot potato around the perimeter wasting valuable seconds off the clock. In this last stretch of games we’ve been prone to some brutally painful offensive scoring droughts. It’s not even just chalking things up to missing timely buckets - we have this incredible knack of looking rushed and stagnant at the very same time.

With so many teams fighting for spots 4-8 it’s not going to take much to fall off the tracks. Teams got better around us versus last season (Indy-Orlando) and other teams probably haven’t hit their stride quite yet (Miami-Cleveland).

Luckily I feel like Philly has blown their wad too soon and without a big trade they're going to lose a lot of ground over this tougher stretch in their schedule that they've got coming up.

[Adelheid]

deuce

20 points, 2 rebounds, 1 assist, 2 steals, 1 block, 40% from 3

good job bro

[knicksNOTslick]

What doesn't make sense is that shooters are allowed their "landing space" and if the defender's foot gets in the way just a tiny bit, there's a potential for a technical. But on a layup with a lot of physical contact, the defender was all over Julius and gave him no space to land. There was nothing. Not a call.

Again, not defending Randle this game because he didn't step up in the 4th, but it seems like he is also unfairly reffed because of how physical his game is.

[Jalen Bluntson]

What doesn't make sense is that shooters are allowed their "landing space" and if the defender's foot gets in the way just a tiny bit, there's a potential for a technical. But on a layup with a lot of physical contact, the defender was all over Julius and gave him no space to land. There was nothing. Not a call.

Again, not defending Randle this game because he didn't step up in the 4th, but it seems like he is also unfairly reffed because of how physical his game is.

It's not just Randle that happens to either. Bam sets illegal picks every single time and injuries players doing it. They don't even call fouls on him. This legal gambling and poor officiating seem to go hand in hand too often. It was bad enough with Tim Donaghy but, now it's the entire league of refs.