PG: Knicks vs. Pistons - Walk in the Park

[Gravy]

The pistons should trade Ivey and Duren then go get Divo, Randle and Kessler when they are available. That's a good mix of solid vets with their kids and next year's top 5 pick they'll get. Minny had been tanking for years and years and ended up with Edwards surrounded by vets from other teams.

[stuporman]

Dream shakes, monster dunks, highlight reel blocks, step-backs, shooting the fade, hitting the open man… *sheesh*

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[NYKinMIA]

GT up fams.

don't break the cypher.

[AfroThunder]

With Bridges, OG, and Hart, why isn't our defense better than it is? He defended well against the Pistons but they're the Pistons. Shouldn't this team be better defensively?

If you take away that game against the Celtics, they're third in defensive rating. But obviously take that with a grain of salt since it's only 4 games

[KnixinSix]

With Bridges, OG, and Hart, why isn't our defense better than it is? He defended well against the Pistons but they're the Pistons. Shouldn't this team be better defensively?

If you take away that game against the Celtics, they're third in defensive rating. But obviously take that with a grain of salt since it's only 4 games

Considering our defensive intensity pretty much every year under Thibs I would take it as a very encouraging sign despite the small sample size.

[KnixinSix]

I'm not sure why you're feeling like you caught shrapnel here because I don't remember you coming personally at the intelligence of posters who were positive about the trade. We were in agreement that if KAT is the 5 we're going to need a different defensive approach from last season. Between us, I was more optimistic that between Mikal and OG we could come up with something where we attacked passing lanes and relied less on drop coverage and that's what we're seeing so far, especially with Precious and Mitch out. Integrating those two will be critical.

There are concerns vis a vis becoming an elite contender and the ones you mentioned are ones I've addressed, and not all considered as resolved. But I already feel comfortable saying we're gonna have a fun season near the top of the conference barring acts of God and that the exact ways I stated the offense might come together are already coming to fruition with some positive signs developing on defense. And, with KAT actually being a little more physical than I expected. We're clearly not going back to play-in level or below with this move.

So, don't know ball? I took it personally.

My bad.
I prolly took it personal cause I was on the skeptical side of the trade and have a dash of insecurity coupled with the unfortunate habit of making things about me when they're not.

Anyways I fully agree with you here. And thats where i try to stay grounded. I have a hard time sometimes cause i fear that our ceiling is capped just below champignon level. But the reality is this is a great team. Went better than what we are you used to.

No worries!

There's still a healthy debate regarding opportunity cost and how good the defense can be to be had. But I think the "trade is a disaster and we're much worse now" train has left the station. We're gonna have a good team to watch.

Also, as a mushroom enthusiast, I love the "just below champignon level" typo! I'd guarantee chanterelle level with a crack at matsutake as the gold standard.

Big part of why I want Poetl.

The biggest potential weakness on this team is pure rim protection and KATs penchant to sometimes fall into foul trouble.

[prophet_of_rage]

With Bridges, OG, and Hart, why isn't our defense better than it is? He defended well against the Pistons but they're the Pistons. Shouldn't this team be better defensively?

It isn't the 90s. Now you just put the worsr defenders in pick and roll and force good defenders to switch off. It's schemes not individuals.

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[thebuzzardman]

Knicks beat the worst team in the league and everyone is excited.

[gavran]

Knicks beat the worst team in the league and everyone is excited.

4th worst.

[BKlutch]

Knicks beat the worst team in the league and everyone is excited.

4th worst.

We showed 'em -- we made them look like the worst!

[stuporman]

Pistons in play-in seed at this way too early point of the season...if they keep this up that pick the Knicks still own may actually worth something

[kNicksGmen]

Pistons in play-in seed at this way too early point of the season...if they keep this up that pick the Knicks still own may actually worth something

we traded that i think. we still have the wizards one

[stuporman]

Pistons in play-in seed at this way too early point of the season...if they keep this up that pick the Knicks still own may actually worth something

we traded that i think. we still have the wizards one

I meant Wizards...but got distracted by the thread title. Yea...because Pistons certainly aren't in play-in seed right now