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KnixinSix wrote:It certainly feels like there are enough options out there that we will pull off something. Though I doubt any will be as good an option as a healthy Mitch Robinson. That is my biggest hope that he comes back healthy and we give him 10-15 minutes a game and ramp up to 20-22 right before playoffs.
KnixinSix wrote:ScienceOfLosing wrote:VirginiaKnickFan wrote:
Umm...Ainge is asking for 2 #1 picks, plus players. It's not happening...book it.
I wonder if we even want him.
Richards was a great 2nd choice to Kessler but we shiz the bed there.
I don’t understand as Richards could have been had for a bargain. Why I question their desire for Kessler.
They may not have seen Richards as that elite rim protector. There is mixed reviews on that. Knicks dont really need much except that. Elite rim defense is their only glaring weakness. We can obviously score, we can rebound , we have plenty of personell to defend the perimeter, and 1 on 1 defend. Whats missing the most is elite rim protection and 1 more guy Thibs is willing to play. Ironically that could be Mitch that could address both those needs but the health is just too much a risk.
Enter Isaiah Stewart.....
Isaiah Stewart remains an interesting option since statistically he is one of the better rim protectors in the league. Detroit and our front office seem to be pretty friendly too. Stew is not fitting in quite as well on that Detroit team as he has had in years past so they might want to get out of that contract. He is not a gifted scorer but he isnt Jared Jeffries or Elfrid Payton either and we don't need a gifted scorer.
Stew might be the one to watch.
thebuzzardman wrote:KnixinSix wrote:It certainly feels like there are enough options out there that we will pull off something. Though I doubt any will be as good an option as a healthy Mitch Robinson. That is my biggest hope that he comes back healthy and we give him 10-15 minutes a game and ramp up to 20-22 right before playoffs.
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thebuzzardman wrote:thebuzzardman wrote:TheGreenArrow wrote:?s=46&t=W09F6FrMDfp5_y1gKYgF1g
Hellllll nooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is the one that probably happens
CAA client
Rebounds
Passes well for a big
Adds some offense the 2nd unit.
Can't really defend, certainly not in space.
I think Thibs values the rebounding and passing from the 5 and will advocate since the Knicks org knows Mitch is cooked.
This is a theory.
I'd rather Mitch comes back. His defense is more useful against Cleveland and Boston than what the big V would add, but I think Thibs advocates for it and Knicks feel it's best move because, again, they know Mitch is done.
Washington does it because they get pick and control of it back
R-DAWG wrote:KnixinSix wrote:ScienceOfLosing wrote:
I wonder if we even want him.
Richards was a great 2nd choice to Kessler but we shiz the bed there.
I don’t understand as Richards could have been had for a bargain. Why I question their desire for Kessler.
They may not have seen Richards as that elite rim protector. There is mixed reviews on that. Knicks dont really need much except that. Elite rim defense is their only glaring weakness. We can obviously score, we can rebound , we have plenty of personell to defend the perimeter, and 1 on 1 defend. Whats missing the most is elite rim protection and 1 more guy Thibs is willing to play. Ironically that could be Mitch that could address both those needs but the health is just too much a risk.
Enter Isaiah Stewart.....
Isaiah Stewart remains an interesting option since statistically he is one of the better rim protectors in the league. Detroit and our front office seem to be pretty friendly too. Stew is not fitting in quite as well on that Detroit team as he has had in years past so they might want to get out of that contract. He is not a gifted scorer but he isnt Jared Jeffries or Elfrid Payton either and we don't need a gifted scorer.
Stew might be the one to watch.
The biggest challenge with Beef Stew, who I agree would be a strong fit, is making it work with the 2nd apron next year. Stewart makes $2,045,454 more than Mitch next year, which would leave NY $6,923,584 below the 2nd arpon. You would need to round out the roster with 2 vet min guys making $2,100,000 and 2 2nd rd picks making $1,100,000 each. Which would leave only about $500k below the 2nd apron. This analysis includes Hukporti's team option being picked up and Jericho Sims sent to DET to complete the trade this year.
Hard to find other ways to trim salary to open a 3rd vet min slot unless Pacome is traded for a 2nd rd pick who is signed to a traditional contract like Kolek's, which would open up about $800k and a 3rd vet min slot, but leave the team right below the 2nd apron with 14 players on the roster.
spree2kawhi wrote:If I couldn’t convince you so far, go and watch Sexton against GSW last night.
No one can tell me we don’t need that kind of player… we do. He’s more of what Hart brings, plus 41.4 % shooting from three (!) and finally a legit second ball-handler. I realize it’s unrealistic, but it would be an incredible trade for us, even if it was for McBride.
KnixinSix wrote:R-DAWG wrote:KnixinSix wrote:
They may not have seen Richards as that elite rim protector. There is mixed reviews on that. Knicks dont really need much except that. Elite rim defense is their only glaring weakness. We can obviously score, we can rebound , we have plenty of personell to defend the perimeter, and 1 on 1 defend. Whats missing the most is elite rim protection and 1 more guy Thibs is willing to play. Ironically that could be Mitch that could address both those needs but the health is just too much a risk.
Enter Isaiah Stewart.....
Isaiah Stewart remains an interesting option since statistically he is one of the better rim protectors in the league. Detroit and our front office seem to be pretty friendly too. Stew is not fitting in quite as well on that Detroit team as he has had in years past so they might want to get out of that contract. He is not a gifted scorer but he isnt Jared Jeffries or Elfrid Payton either and we don't need a gifted scorer.
Stew might be the one to watch.
The biggest challenge with Beef Stew, who I agree would be a strong fit, is making it work with the 2nd apron next year. Stewart makes $2,045,454 more than Mitch next year, which would leave NY $6,923,584 below the 2nd arpon. You would need to round out the roster with 2 vet min guys making $2,100,000 and 2 2nd rd picks making $1,100,000 each. Which would leave only about $500k below the 2nd apron. This analysis includes Hukporti's team option being picked up and Jericho Sims sent to DET to complete the trade this year.
Hard to find other ways to trim salary to open a 3rd vet min slot unless Pacome is traded for a 2nd rd pick who is signed to a traditional contract like Kolek's, which would open up about $800k and a 3rd vet min slot, but leave the team right below the 2nd apron with 14 players on the roster.
There is a lot of nuance with all these aprons rules that we have to account for...one of them is i believe there will be an increase year per year on the apron threshold
Stew is locked in for next 3 years is only 23 and basically replaces Mitch as your elite rim protector.
j4remi wrote:thebuzzardman wrote:
Perfect for the 10-15 minutes per night KAT needs to rest.
WargamesX wrote:j4remi wrote:thebuzzardman wrote:
Perfect for the 10-15 minutes per night KAT needs to rest.
I still prefer Mitch Rob for those minutes and for games where we would slide KAT to the 4.
R-DAWG wrote:KnixinSix wrote:ScienceOfLosing wrote:
I wonder if we even want him.
Richards was a great 2nd choice to Kessler but we shiz the bed there.
I don’t understand as Richards could have been had for a bargain. Why I question their desire for Kessler.
They may not have seen Richards as that elite rim protector. There is mixed reviews on that. Knicks dont really need much except that. Elite rim defense is their only glaring weakness. We can obviously score, we can rebound , we have plenty of personell to defend the perimeter, and 1 on 1 defend. Whats missing the most is elite rim protection and 1 more guy Thibs is willing to play. Ironically that could be Mitch that could address both those needs but the health is just too much a risk.
Enter Isaiah Stewart.....
Isaiah Stewart remains an interesting option since statistically he is one of the better rim protectors in the league. Detroit and our front office seem to be pretty friendly too. Stew is not fitting in quite as well on that Detroit team as he has had in years past so they might want to get out of that contract. He is not a gifted scorer but he isnt Jared Jeffries or Elfrid Payton either and we don't need a gifted scorer.
Stew might be the one to watch.
The biggest challenge with Beef Stew, who I agree would be a strong fit, is making it work with the 2nd apron next year. Stewart makes $2,045,454 more than Mitch next year, which would leave NY $6,923,584 below the 2nd arpon. You would need to round out the roster with 2 vet min guys making $2,100,000 and 2 2nd rd picks making $1,100,000 each. Which would leave only about $500k below the 2nd apron. This analysis includes Hukporti's team option being picked up and Jericho Sims sent to DET to complete the trade this year.
Hard to find other ways to trim salary to open a 3rd vet min slot unless Pacome is traded for a 2nd rd pick who is signed to a traditional contract like Kolek's, which would open up about $800k and a 3rd vet min slot, but leave the team right below the 2nd apron with 14 players on the roster.
WargamesX wrote:j4remi wrote:thebuzzardman wrote:
Perfect for the 10-15 minutes per night KAT needs to rest.
I still prefer Mitch Rob for those minutes and for games where we would slide KAT to the 4.
thebuzzardman wrote:WargamesX wrote:j4remi wrote:
Perfect for the 10-15 minutes per night KAT needs to rest.
I still prefer Mitch Rob for those minutes and for games where we would slide KAT to the 4.
I'd prefer Rob too. I think the Knicks do this. Not invested in it, just seems so.
j4remi wrote:thebuzzardman wrote:
Perfect for the 10-15 minutes per night KAT needs to rest.
WargamesX wrote:thebuzzardman wrote:WargamesX wrote:
I still prefer Mitch Rob for those minutes and for games where we would slide KAT to the 4.
I'd prefer Rob too. I think the Knicks do this. Not invested in it, just seems so.
I hope not. Especially if they think they got to play the Cavs in the playoffs
Chislic wrote:j4remi wrote:thebuzzardman wrote:
Perfect for the 10-15 minutes per night KAT needs to rest.
Steven Adams is averaging 3.5 offensive rebounds in 12.8 minutes off the bench in the month a January, mate. Adams impacts the game on so many levels. For example, his elite screen setting could really open things up for Brunson...