Knicks not ruling out DRose extension later in the season

[HEZI]

RPM alone to compare players on different teams is pretty useless. It is by no means a stat you can use to rank players by position.

You could have just said RPM alone is pretty useless and it would have been true

[blueNorange]

RPM alone to compare players on different teams is pretty useless. It is by no means a stat you can use to rank players by position.

You could have just said RPM alone is pretty useless and it would have been true

but it's not, it was created because plus/minus game by game is pretty useless.

[kane2021]

5 years 175 million dollars. Holy **** man


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[3toheadmelo]

i just don't get how bno hates d rose but loves Rubio who's worse than him. i find it hilarious

one bricks 6 shots, the other bricks 16 shots
one runs an offense, the other is too dumb to run one
one plays defense, the other gets beat then blames his teammates

u do realize we're talking about 2016 Ricky Rubio not 2012? His dbpm is at the lowest at his career (-0.8). That's "elite" defense for sure.

he's at a career low in assists at 6.4. horrible 37.3 percent shooting and 25 percent from 3.

timberwolves are -14.8 points per 100 between him being on and off the court.(-9.5 when on, +5.3 when off). hes sure elite at running an offense. currently has win shares of 0.7 also. he's washed up and looks like Calderon at this point. there's a reason why timberwolves fans wanted him traded for the past couple years.

[blueNorange]

i just don't get how bno hates d rose but loves Rubio who's worse than him. i find it hilarious

one bricks 6 shots, the other bricks 16 shots
one runs an offense, the other is too dumb to run one
one plays defense, the other gets beat then blames his teammates

u do realize we're talking about 2016 Ricky Rubio not 2012? His dbpm is at the lowest at his career (-0.8). That's "elite" defense for sure.

he's at a career low in assists at 6.4. horrible 37.3 percent shooting and 25 percent from 3.

timberwolves are -14.8 points per 100 between him being on and off the court.(-9.5 when on, +5.3 when off). hes sure elite at running an offense. currently has win shares of 0.7 also. he's washed up and looks like Calderon at this point. there's a reason why timberwolves fans wanted him traded for the past couple years.

okay, how does this have to do with derrick rose being horrible?

[3toheadmelo]

one bricks 6 shots, the other bricks 16 shots
one runs an offense, the other is too dumb to run one
one plays defense, the other gets beat then blames his teammates

u do realize we're talking about 2016 Ricky Rubio not 2012? His dbpm is at the lowest at his career (-0.8). That's "elite" defense for sure.

he's at a career low in assists at 6.4. horrible 37.3 percent shooting and 25 percent from 3.

timberwolves are -14.8 points per 100 between him being on and off the court.(-9.5 when on, +5.3 when off). hes sure elite at running an offense. currently has win shares of 0.7 also. he's washed up and looks like Calderon at this point. there's a reason why timberwolves fans wanted him traded for the past couple years.

okay, how does this have to do with derrick rose being horrible?

my point is that u like a player who is just as bad which i find funny as hell

[HEZI]

RPM alone to compare players on different teams is pretty useless. It is by no means a stat you can use to rank players by position.

You could have just said RPM alone is pretty useless and it would have been true

but it's not, it was created because plus/minus game by game is pretty useless.

No it was created to determine the winner for 6th man of the year a few years ago

Plus/minus deals with real scenarios which includes current team rosters. What ESPN did was they wanted to see the numbers by trying to simulate an even field scenario and giving players "average" teammates in a simulated program. The problem is they still use current player plus/minus to create such scenarios which in the end still makes the stat flawed. It's not based on actual fact but more on a "what if" scenario, which in the game of basketball is a dumb thing to do.

[blueNorange]

u do realize we're talking about 2016 Ricky Rubio not 2012? His dbpm is at the lowest at his career (-0.8). That's "elite" defense for sure.

he's at a career low in assists at 6.4. horrible 37.3 percent shooting and 25 percent from 3.

timberwolves are -14.8 points per 100 between him being on and off the court.(-9.5 when on, +5.3 when off). hes sure elite at running an offense. currently has win shares of 0.7 also. he's washed up and looks like Calderon at this point. there's a reason why timberwolves fans wanted him traded for the past couple years.

okay, how does this have to do with derrick rose being horrible?

my point is that u like a player who is just as bad which i find funny as hell

so you agree rose is terrible?

[NYKMentality85]

i just don't get how bno hates d rose but loves Rubio who's worse than him. i find it hilarious

one bricks 6 shots, the other bricks 16 shots
one runs an offense, the other is too dumb to run one
one plays defense, the other gets beat then blames his teammates

Since when does Rubio "run an offense"? The bum has been in the league for 6 years now with how many playoff appearances? Exactly. Rose was the starting PG, with little to no offensive help and LED his Chicago teams to the playoffs damn near every year.

Since you're such a fan of "advanced statistics" i find it hypocritical how Rubio has a career Player Efficiency Rating of only 15.8 and a career TS% of .494% compared to Rose who has a career Player Efficiency Rating of 18.2 and a career TS% of .519%. Rose even after multiple injuries still has a higher Player Efficiency Rating of Rubio here in 2016.

Pretty funny. But hey. Lets not let the facts get in the way of an agenda.

[blueNorange]

You could have just said RPM alone is pretty useless and it would have been true

but it's not, it was created because plus/minus game by game is pretty useless.

No it was created to determine the winner for 6th man of the year a few years ago

Plus/minus deals with real scenarios which includes current team rosters. What ESPN did was they wanted to see the numbers by trying to simulate an even field scenario and giving players "average" teammates in a simulated program. The problem is they still use current player plus/minus to create such scenarios which in the end still makes the stat flawed. It's not based on actual fact but more on a "what if" scenario, which in the game of basketball is a dumb thing to do.

derrick rose is rated near the bottom, it's okay. he was real good once upon a time ago, i was the one leading the tank 4 rose train in 2008 and was very disappointed when the bulls got him.

he hid his weakness because of his amazing athleticism and explosive first step, but those are now gone which exposes his defense, court vision, and ability to run an offense ... he can't, it's mostly his coaches fault for not drilling the fundamentals and just let him cruise by with his talent.

the man isn't a good nba player.

[3toheadmelo]

okay, how does this have to do with derrick rose being horrible?

my point is that u like a player who is just as bad which i find funny as hell

so you agree rose is terrible?

in some ways yes. hes been mostly like an average point guard for us. he has came up in the clutch for us tho

[blueNorange]

i just don't get how bno hates d rose but loves Rubio who's worse than him. i find it hilarious

one bricks 6 shots, the other bricks 16 shots
one runs an offense, the other is too dumb to run one
one plays defense, the other gets beat then blames his teammates

Since when does Rubio "run an offense"? The bum has been in the league for 6 years now with how many playoff appearances? Exactly. Rose was the starting PG, with little to no offensive help and LED his Chicago teams to the playoffs damn near every year.

Since you're such a fan of "advanced statistics" i find it hypocritical how Rubio has a career Player Efficiency Rating of only 15.8 and a career TS% of .494% compared to Rose who has a career Player Efficiency Rating of 18.2 and a career TS% of .519%. Rose even after multiple injuries still has a higher Player Efficiency Rating of Rubio here in 2016.

Pretty funny.

this is the first post you've ever made without sounding like a robot, anyways rubio doesn't take any shots to hurt an offense.

also a career .519 ts% is very horrible for the amount of shots rose takes.

[HEZI]

but it's not, it was created because plus/minus game by game is pretty useless.

No it was created to determine the winner for 6th man of the year a few years ago

Plus/minus deals with real scenarios which includes current team rosters. What ESPN did was they wanted to see the numbers by trying to simulate an even field scenario and giving players "average" teammates in a simulated program. The problem is they still use current player plus/minus to create such scenarios which in the end still makes the stat flawed. It's not based on actual fact but more on a "what if" scenario, which in the game of basketball is a dumb thing to do.

derrick rose is rated near the bottom, it's okay. he was real good once upon a time ago, i was the one leading the tank 4 rose train in 2008 and was very disappointed when the bulls got him.

he hid his weakness because of his amazing athleticism and explosive first step, but those are now gone which exposes his defense, court vision, and ability to run an offense ... he can't, it's mostly his coaches fault for not drilling the fundamentals and just let him cruise by with his talent.

the man isn't a good nba player.

Run Forest Ruuuuuun

[Sark]

I think paying any of Rose, Rubio, or Lopez $25m would be asinine. Lopez at $11m/year is a really good deal though.

[HEZI]

From now on I will call bno Forest Gump

Run from actual facts and hide in your cave of biased opinion and agendas

Careful don't trip

[waya]

I'd take Rubio over Rose in a heartbeat

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[blueNorange]

From now on I will call bno Forest Gump

Run from actual facts and hide in your cave of biased opinion and agendas

Careful don't trip

huh? you showed me the facts, and the facts show that rolo is rated higher than rose in rpm.

what exactly am i running from?

[CJackson]

i just don't get how bno hates d rose but loves Rubio who's worse than him. i find it hilarious

one bricks 6 shots, the other bricks 16 shots
one runs an offense, the other is too dumb to run one
one plays defense, the other gets beat then blames his teammates

Since when does Rubio "run an offense"? The bum has been in the league for 6 years now with how many playoff appearances? Exactly. Rose was the starting PG, with little to no offensive help and LED his Chicago teams to the playoffs damn near every year.

Since you're such a fan of "advanced statistics" i find it hypocritical how Rubio has a career Player Efficiency Rating of only 15.8 and a career TS% of .494% compared to Rose who has a career Player Efficiency Rating of 18.2 and a career TS% of .519%. Rose even after multiple injuries still has a higher Player Efficiency Rating of Rubio here in 2016.

Pretty funny. But hey. Lets not let the facts get in the way of an agenda.

Rose is an addendum player, not an integral player at this point.

When he has the ball, his mindset is he is the first option and facilitating is his secondary option.

That makes Rose anything but a player to build around. His value in breaking down defenses would best be utilized coming off the bench or being the designated SG.

but getting all wound up over people dumping on Rose is not the answer because the guy does not play anything like a real PG. He's barely a combo guard at this point

Re-signing him to a big deal would be gross

[3toheadmelo]

chill don't compare rose to lopez. be fair and compare Noah to lopez. that's the real debate. i love Noah as a person and I know he genuinely wants to make this team the best he can but man he looks done. lopez and KP were the twin towers

[CJackson]

From now on I will call bno Forest Gump

Run from actual facts and hide in your cave of biased opinion and agendas

Careful don't trip

it is fair to say that even if you vehemently dislike bNo's POV he almost never insults anyone.

He asked me to stop taunting him and I did because it is a valid point that he does not attack people on a personal level.

Most of you attack him on a personal level daily.

He is cynical which makes him seem borderline in terms of trolling, but I do think they are a Knicks fan.

They could adjust their attitude too IMO, but the bottom line is they attack the message, not the messenger and many on this board still lack the ability to make that distinction consistently.