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Re: Build a Team 17.0 Rules and Discussion Thread 

Post#321 » by spree8 » Tue Jan 17, 2017 5:15 pm

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mpharris36 wrote:
Smash3 wrote:Cold blooded Spree :lol: Hoffa was probably refreshing like a mad man :rofl:


and he picks demar 30 seconds before hoffa....5 hours 59 minutes and 30 seconds later

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TBH i wanted Demar, but I knew come judging time the most 'loud' GMs would takeover the boards and argue he does not show up in the playoffs, even though they took the Cavs to 6 games


Nobody said that last time...just about someone else on the team. And he's made such a huge improvement to his game since last season and hasn't dropped off since showing it like some thought he might.

If you still want him, he's available :D
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Post#322 » by Knicksfan1992 » Tue Jan 17, 2017 5:25 pm

Let me preface this by saying I love Draymond the player and he is worth a 1st round pick based on his current production.

However, in a game like this I don't know if you can use a 1st round pick for him. Draymond is almost in the perfect situation in Golden State because he's the 3rd best player on that team. I don't know if you can pick him in the first round in BAT and make a championship team or contending team out of it.

With that being said, you could probably say that about most of the picks outside of the top 10 and I'd like to see someone make a really good team with Dray as their first pick just because there's a ton of different directions you can go because of how multi-faceted he is so it will be an interesting team to follow from here on out.
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Post#323 » by Fury » Tue Jan 17, 2017 5:32 pm

Looking to trade from 20 to the 25ish range pick swaps round 2 and 4
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Post#324 » by El Poochio » Tue Jan 17, 2017 5:35 pm

Knicksfan1992 wrote:Let me preface this by saying I love Draymond the player and he is worth a 1st round pick based on his current production.

However, in a game like this I don't know if you can use a 1st round pick for him. Draymond is almost in the perfect situation in Golden State because he's the 3rd best player on that team. I don't know if you can pick him in the first round in BAT and make a championship team or contending team out of it.

With that being said, you could probably say that about most of the picks outside of the top 10 and I'd like to see someone make a really good team with Dray as their first pick just because there's a ton of different directions you can go because of how multi-faceted he is so it will be an interesting team to follow from here on out.


The thing is he has some good picks thanks to trading down and forward is an area which quality players are actually rare so investing your highest pick on the position with most scarcity is not a bad strategy, can argue there is a better forward than him talent wise but he comes with his own doubts which are more than Dray, also Dray is pretty versatile which gives you more flexibility with your later picks like lining him up either as center or forward
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Post#325 » by JustCame » Tue Jan 17, 2017 5:58 pm

Still looking to move up. Not trying to trade my 2nd (unless I get a 2nd back in the deal).
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Post#326 » by IllmaticHandler » Tue Jan 17, 2017 5:59 pm

spree8 wrote:Sorry bout that...just woke up...never thought Illmatic would be making a pick that early.




I felt "bad" if you would have missed your pick cause I figured thats why you was late :lol: . I came home around 4am and saw it was my turn and picked.
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Post#327 » by IllmaticHandler » Tue Jan 17, 2017 6:12 pm

I also Picked Lillard for teams that want him. I don't like using the same player twice and I don't like using players I don't like which is why I picked Dame vs the other options. Like I always say, Don't send Weak offers. I can easily keep him and ball out.
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Post#328 » by Fury » Tue Jan 17, 2017 6:15 pm

Fury wrote:Looking to trade from 20 to the 25ish range pick swaps round 2 and 4


Meant swaps in rounds 2 and 3 because of the new ABBA format
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Re: Build a Team 17.0 Rules and Discussion Thread 

Post#329 » by j4remi » Tue Jan 17, 2017 6:19 pm

Knicksfan1992 wrote:Let me preface this by saying I love Draymond the player and he is worth a 1st round pick based on his current production.

However, in a game like this I don't know if you can use a 1st round pick for him. Draymond is almost in the perfect situation in Golden State because he's the 3rd best player on that team. I don't know if you can pick him in the first round in BAT and make a championship team or contending team out of it.

With that being said, you could probably say that about most of the picks outside of the top 10 and I'd like to see someone make a really good team with Dray as their first pick just because there's a ton of different directions you can go because of how multi-faceted he is so it will be an interesting team to follow from here on out.


I have the exact same theory about Draymond and players of his ilk, but the difference for hoffa is that he positioned himself to build a strong five man line-up right away. With that many high picks, I think the Green selection really makes sense and works. So I was gonna make a similar comment but also give hoffa props for positioning himself to take advantage of a piece like Green whereas most gm's would be stuck in a tough spot by the time their fourth and fifth picks came around.
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Re: Build a Team 17.0 Rules and Discussion Thread 

Post#330 » by bringbackhoffa » Tue Jan 17, 2017 6:20 pm

El Poochio wrote:
Knicksfan1992 wrote:Let me preface this by saying I love Draymond the player and he is worth a 1st round pick based on his current production.

However, in a game like this I don't know if you can use a 1st round pick for him. Draymond is almost in the perfect situation in Golden State because he's the 3rd best player on that team. I don't know if you can pick him in the first round in BAT and make a championship team or contending team out of it.

With that being said, you could probably say that about most of the picks outside of the top 10 and I'd like to see someone make a really good team with Dray as their first pick just because there's a ton of different directions you can go because of how multi-faceted he is so it will be an interesting team to follow from here on out.


The thing is he has some good picks thanks to trading down and forward is an area which quality players are actually rare so investing your highest pick on the position with most scarcity is not a bad strategy, can argue there is a better forward than him talent wise but he comes with his own doubts which are more than Dray, also Dray is pretty versatile which gives you more flexibility with your later picks like lining him up either as center or forward


Echo everything you just stated, i found it so difficult to upgrade at this position last time around. Also, in terms of being the 3rd best player, unlike Irving who loses whenever Lebron sits, GSW still wins games with Curry out. Similar things were said about Harden when he was on OKC, look at him now. Man straight up beasting. I am actually quite excited with what I can put around him.

Also recent article on the Bleacher Report...
Ranking Top 5 NBA Stars at Every Position: Early 2017 Edition
No. 1 Power Forward: Draymond Green

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Age: 26

2016-17 Per-Game Stats: 10.9 points, 8.6 rebounds, 7.5 assists, 2.1 steals, 1.2 blocks

Averaging two steals and one block is special—only (name drop) has pulled that off in the past decade. Averaging 10 points, eight rebounds, seven assists and two steals is almost unheard of—only Michael Jordan, Fat Lever and Magic Johnson have previously done that. It takes more than counting categories to appreciate Draymond Green's greatness, but for those who prefer simple stats, those two are the most revealing.

For the deeper-digging crowd, let's get into Green's two-way versatility, since that could quietly be the key to Golden State's dominance.

The 6'7" "big" man is simultaneously an elite rim protector (44.6 percent shooting against inside) and pesky perimeter stopper (opponents shoot 3.6 points worse against him than they do on average from distance). Offensively, he's a buzzsaw as a pick-and-roll partner with the touch to bury jumpers, the strength to finish at the rim and the vision to spot open teammates any step of the way.

"Multiple Warriors staffers share the opinion that Green is their most important player," Ethan Sherwood Strauss wrote for ESPN The Magazine. "Nobody replicates his set of contributions."
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Post#331 » by Mecca » Tue Jan 17, 2017 6:25 pm

bringbackhoffa wrote:
El Poochio wrote:
Knicksfan1992 wrote:Let me preface this by saying I love Draymond the player and he is worth a 1st round pick based on his current production.

However, in a game like this I don't know if you can use a 1st round pick for him. Draymond is almost in the perfect situation in Golden State because he's the 3rd best player on that team. I don't know if you can pick him in the first round in BAT and make a championship team or contending team out of it.

With that being said, you could probably say that about most of the picks outside of the top 10 and I'd like to see someone make a really good team with Dray as their first pick just because there's a ton of different directions you can go because of how multi-faceted he is so it will be an interesting team to follow from here on out.


The thing is he has some good picks thanks to trading down and forward is an area which quality players are actually rare so investing your highest pick on the position with most scarcity is not a bad strategy, can argue there is a better forward than him talent wise but he comes with his own doubts which are more than Dray, also Dray is pretty versatile which gives you more flexibility with your later picks like lining him up either as center or forward


Echo everything you just stated, i found it so difficult to upgrade at this position last time around. Also, in terms of being the 3rd best player, unlike Irving who loses whenever Lebron sits, GSW still wins games with Curry out. Similar things were said about Harden when he was on OKC, look at him now. Man straight up beasting. I am actually quite excited with what I can put around him.


Drafting Draymond in the first round is crippling because he's not a go-to scorer, nor is he even a great #2. Ideally he's the 3rd best player on your team. His offensive arsenal isn't strong enough to deserve a top 20 pick.
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Re: Build a Team 17.0 Rules and Discussion Thread 

Post#332 » by bringbackhoffa » Tue Jan 17, 2017 6:26 pm

Mecca wrote:
bringbackhoffa wrote:
El Poochio wrote:
The thing is he has some good picks thanks to trading down and forward is an area which quality players are actually rare so investing your highest pick on the position with most scarcity is not a bad strategy, can argue there is a better forward than him talent wise but he comes with his own doubts which are more than Dray, also Dray is pretty versatile which gives you more flexibility with your later picks like lining him up either as center or forward


Echo everything you just stated, i found it so difficult to upgrade at this position last time around. Also, in terms of being the 3rd best player, unlike Irving who loses whenever Lebron sits, GSW still wins games with Curry out. Similar things were said about Harden when he was on OKC, look at him now. Man straight up beasting. I am actually quite excited with what I can put around him.


Drafting Draymond in the first round is crippling because he's not a go-to scorer, nor is he even a great #2. Ideally he's the 3rd best player on your team. His offensive arsenal isn't strong enough to deserve a top 20 pick.


fully expected those comments from you. Tons of scorers that will be available up until the 100's, a player like Draymond is rare especially at his position.
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Post#333 » by mpharris36 » Tue Jan 17, 2017 6:28 pm

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Post#334 » by Smash3 » Tue Jan 17, 2017 6:30 pm

You can never go wrong with elite two way players.
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Post#335 » by Mecca » Tue Jan 17, 2017 6:30 pm

bringbackhoffa wrote:
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bringbackhoffa wrote:
Echo everything you just stated, i found it so difficult to upgrade at this position last time around. Also, in terms of being the 3rd best player, unlike Irving who loses whenever Lebron sits, GSW still wins games with Curry out. Similar things were said about Harden when he was on OKC, look at him now. Man straight up beasting. I am actually quite excited with what I can put around him.


Drafting Draymond in the first round is crippling because he's not a go-to scorer, nor is he even a great #2. Ideally he's the 3rd best player on your team. His offensive arsenal isn't strong enough to deserve a top 20 pick.


fully expected those comments from you. Tons of scorers that will be available up until the 100's, a player like Draymond is rare especially at his position.



This is your first snake draft so you have a lot of things coming to you if you think a go-to scorer will drop that low. Have fun
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Post#336 » by bringbackhoffa » Tue Jan 17, 2017 6:30 pm

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I am just hoping Meccas boy does not drop to him, but i expect him to be going in the next 2-3 picks..
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Post#337 » by Mecca » Tue Jan 17, 2017 6:31 pm

Smash3 wrote:You can never go wrong with elite two way players.


I've played 17/17 BAT's and never used a 1st round pick on a player that can't be a go-to scorer
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Post#338 » by bringbackhoffa » Tue Jan 17, 2017 6:31 pm

Mecca wrote:
bringbackhoffa wrote:
Mecca wrote:
Drafting Draymond in the first round is crippling because he's not a go-to scorer, nor is he even a great #2. Ideally he's the 3rd best player on your team. His offensive arsenal isn't strong enough to deserve a top 20 pick.


fully expected those comments from you. Tons of scorers that will be available up until the 100's, a player like Draymond is rare especially at his position.



This is your first snake draft so you have a lot of things coming to you if you think a go-to scorer will drop that low. Have fun


Um i have played in numerous snake drafts on the TT board and other team boards
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Post#339 » by Mecca » Tue Jan 17, 2017 6:32 pm

bringbackhoffa wrote:
Mecca wrote:
bringbackhoffa wrote:
fully expected those comments from you. Tons of scorers that will be available up until the 100's, a player like Draymond is rare especially at his position.



This is your first snake draft so you have a lot of things coming to you if you think a go-to scorer will drop that low. Have fun


Um i have played in numerous snake drafts on the TT board and other team boards


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Post#340 » by Smash3 » Tue Jan 17, 2017 6:36 pm

Mecca wrote:
Smash3 wrote:You can never go wrong with elite two way players.


I've played 17/17 BAT's and never used a 1st round pick on a player that can't be a go-to scorer


It´s going to be tough for Hoffa to find a go-to scorer in the second round, he´s probably working the phones though.
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