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Re: Melo Thread #????? 

Post#321 » by drekwins » Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:02 pm

god shammgod wrote:melo still gonna frustrate dan a couple times a game by taking mid range shots but he'll have to live with it


Haha his post up's will piss him off more than anything lol If he makes it a habit of coming down the floor, chilling on the block, getting an entry pass from Paul, holding the ball and then missing a tough shot, all of Houston will boo him lol he has to be spot up/catch and shoot Melo.
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Re: Melo Thread #????? 

Post#322 » by kane » Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:02 pm

melo

harden

cp3

all on the same team...... god i hope this happens

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Re: Melo Thread #????? 

Post#323 » by Greenie » Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:03 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
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We are building a core. We don't have one yet.



Is KP, WHG, Frank, and THjr at least not the start of a young core?

They are pieces that may or may not become core players.
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Re: Melo Thread #????? 

Post#324 » by god shammgod » Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:03 pm

there were people who actually left this site over lin....it would be kind of like leaving this site over not re-signing langston galloway
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Re: Melo Thread #????? 

Post#325 » by HarthorneWingo » Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:03 pm

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god shammgod wrote:f*ck lin. f*ck melo. and certainly f*ck amare. who the hell cares about this ?


So what? People are arguing with one another. I thought that would make you happy?


i like when they sling personal insults....arguing about beaten to death topics is boring. and frankly, looking back now and seeing what lin amounted to...it's kind of embarrassing that we're still talking about him like he's important in any way.


When he played last year, he was very effective you no good, know-nothing uncle Fester looking mo-fo.
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Re: Melo Thread #????? 

Post#326 » by HarthorneWingo » Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:04 pm

god shammgod wrote:there were people who actually left this site over lin....it would be kind of like leaving this site over not re-signing langston galloway


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Re: Melo Thread #????? 

Post#327 » by god shammgod » Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:05 pm

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god shammgod wrote:melo still gonna frustrate dan a couple times a game by taking mid range shots but he'll have to live with it


Haha his post up's will piss him off more than anything lol If he makes it a habit of coming down the floor, chilling on the block, getting an entry pass from Paul, holding the ball and then missing a tough shot, all of Houston will boo him lol he has to be spot up/catch and shoot Melo.


he'll mostly do the catch and shoot thing but he's still gonna post up a little, use the dribble a little and move off the 3 point line. he's not gonna be steve novak.
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Re: Melo Thread #????? 

Post#328 » by Greenie » Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:05 pm

drekwins wrote:
god shammgod wrote:melo still gonna frustrate dan a couple times a game by taking mid range shots but he'll have to live with it


Haha his post up's will piss him off more than anything lol If he makes it a habit of coming down the floor, chilling on the block, getting an entry pass from Paul, holding the ball and then missing a tough shot, all of Houston will boo him lol he has to be spot up/catch and shoot Melo.


If Melo had a mismatch in the post he should take it.

Houston won't boo dude at all.
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Re: Melo Thread #????? 

Post#329 » by Dkillanyk4lyf » Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:07 pm

Greenie wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
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We are building a core. We don't have one yet.



Is KP, WHG, Frank, and THjr at least not the start of a young core?

They are pieces that may or may not become core players.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Melo Thread #????? 

Post#330 » by drekwins » Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:07 pm

Greenie wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
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We are building a core. We don't have one yet.



Is KP, WHG, Frank, and THjr at least not the start of a young core?

They are pieces that may or may not become core players.


I feel what you're saying about everyone besides KP. He's the only guaranteed long-term core guy (barring injury). The others can flop, be dealt, etc. at any time. They still have a lot to prove.
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Re: Melo Thread #????? 

Post#331 » by Greenie » Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:08 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:Coulda sworn I read recently that mike D says he wants Melo

These arguments are pointless


Yeah, because he doesn't hate Melo. He can be the best (or close to it) stretch 4 in the game. He just can't be the center of DAntonio offense. DAntoni loves the idea of him in the Marion spot... not playing Nash or Amare.

That's why Mike sucks as a coach.
I pray Melo ends up in Cleveland.

Mike can't coach.
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Re: Melo Thread #????? 

Post#332 » by drekwins » Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:09 pm

Dkillanyk4lyf wrote:
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mpharris36 wrote:

Is KP, WHG, Frank, and THjr at least not the start of a young core?

They are pieces that may or may not become core players.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


She's not wrong... The others aren't guarantees. They could flop or be traded. They're not untouchables or even sure things. KP is above the rest. The others... we'll see what happens.
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Re: Melo Thread #????? 

Post#333 » by sushibear » Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:11 pm

Why is this taking so long? Trade the fuqin guy already. :banghead:
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Post#334 » by seren » Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:11 pm

taj2133 wrote:morey is hard azz gm to work with he tries rip off other teams to many that is why many teams don't want to work with him because he has to win every trade same with ainge in boston same way

I actually disagree. Most trades he does is clearly beneficial for each team's goals. The exception is the Knicks trade for TMac but that was more about Knicks being Knicks.

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Re: Melo Thread #????? 

Post#335 » by Knicksrule2k4 » Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:13 pm

Read on Twitter


Closer to reality.. how long does it take to make a trade? Sheesh lol
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Re: Melo Thread #????? 

Post#336 » by drekwins » Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:13 pm

Greenie wrote:
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3toheadmelo wrote:Coulda sworn I read recently that mike D says he wants Melo

These arguments are pointless


Yeah, because he doesn't hate Melo. He can be the best (or close to it) stretch 4 in the game. He just can't be the center of DAntonio offense. DAntoni loves the idea of him in the Marion spot... not playing Nash or Amare.

That's why Mike sucks as a coach.
I pray Melo ends up in Cleveland.

Mike can't coach.


Agreed. His system has holes. It's great for getting to 50+ wins but the great teams expose it. I don't see it ending well in Houston... esp when CP3 has traditional coaching beliefs. Idk how he's going to take DAntoni. I can't imagine CP3 being okay with the notion that offense is all that matters and that they'll find "a way" to get stops. He's going to want a strategy.
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Re: Melo Thread #????? 

Post#337 » by stuporman » Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:15 pm

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As much as it would be nice to just move on from Anthony, the Knicks need to hold firm. If they can't find the right trade, there's no sense making a stupid trade just to get rid of Anthony. If Anthony really wants out then have him work the same pull that a lot of folks have accused him of getting himself here in the first place, to keep the pressure on the Rockets to poney up and/or figure it out. And if not, then you don't do it. Anthony is worried enough about his brand (the thing that a lot of folks have accused him of being interested in more than winning) that he's not going to turn into a cancer (and risk his brand). You carry him until the right move happens or you make him opt out. Right now teams may have a good idea what they have and where they are at, but once the season starts and things shake out you may actually get more interest as teams look to really make moves to push them up a notch. In baseball it's why you usually get the best return waiting for near the trade deadline. Same here. Again, yes, trade him if a deal that makes sense comes up and let's all move on. But you don't got to trade him no matter what.


Exactly, getting assets would be ideal but not fouling up the cap over the immediate future is more important, a healthy fiscal situation is needed to rebuild. He's cost the Knicks so many assets to get him and keep him happy the Knicks should not be concerned about giving him what he wants in leaving if it means the stink of the deal lasts for years on the cap or in costing more assets. It's better to let him opt out and reset that way. Other than a chirpy Jax the Knicks have treated Melo really well but the media has spun it like the Knicks are monsters, they are just incompetent, that's different.



Right. We need to hold firm and be willing to walk away from a deal if we don't get what we want. If nothing materializes, let Melo be come off the bench as 6th man on a rebuilding team. Trust me, he will then come to the table - hat in hand - begging for an immediate buyout.


Except no buyout, he doesn't get what he wants while still getting his money, screw him on that. If he wants out he pushes hard for Houston to get the deal done and cough up what it takes or he opts out after the season, the Knicks don't owe him anything more than that, they don't owe him both his contract money and freedom to go where he wants.
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Re: Melo Thread #????? 

Post#338 » by HEZI » Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:16 pm

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Closer to reality.. how long does it take to make a trade? Sheesh lol


This is what happens when a guy has a NTC and his list only includes two teams and those two teams have garbage assets that nobody wants
DENVER NUGGETS
Jamal Murray/Ty Jerome/Dante Exum
Zach Lavine/Ayo Dosunmu/Corey Kispert
Aaron Gordon/Harrison Barnes/Isaac Okoro
Jakob Poeltl/Moussa Diabate/Karlo Matkovic
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Re: Melo Thread #????? 

Post#339 » by EchelonNYK » Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:16 pm

Knicksrule2k4 wrote:
Read on Twitter


Closer to reality.. how long does it take to make a trade? Sheesh lol


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Re: Melo Thread #????? 

Post#340 » by sushibear » Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:16 pm

drekwins wrote:
Dkillanyk4lyf wrote:
Greenie wrote:They are pieces that may or may not become core players.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


She's not wrong... The others aren't guarantees. They could flop or be traded. They're not untouchables or even sure things. KP is above the rest. The others... we'll see what happens.


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