Frank Thread 3: FIBA Frank Aftermath

[Thugger HBC]

I like that notion, perhaps it will keep Frank's confidence up.

[GONYK]

Knicks PR very clearly aware of the Frank narrative

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Now pick up that option

[Zenzibar]

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Again. Why would one not recognized Kid Ntilikina's growth, both as a player and a very composed person. He interviews like Mariano at that age; understated, respectful, competitive and a very complete player. He's thisclose.

Btw, it was a respectful gesture to give Argentina props. The foreign born players will acknowledge that.

Yo, fellas, teams will be calling about Frank. Given that Fiz going to see him first tells me that the Team values him more.

Ultimately, its on Kid Ntilikina to wash the doubters away.

[Nazrmohamed]

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Frank is playing at nearly 6'8"

He's also listed at 200 lbs, which is 30 lbs above the 170 lbs he weighed before the draft 2 years ago.

Wait, so Mitchell Robinson grew? I thought he was 6'11 last year with shoes.

[NYKnickerbocker]

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Frank is playing at nearly 6'8"

He's also listed at 200 lbs, which is 30 lbs above the 170 lbs he weighed before the draft 2 years ago.

Wait, so Mitchell Robinson grew? I thought he was 6'11 last year with shoes.

thought he was always a 7fter

[Clyde_Style]

I do like that Fizdale checked in on Frank this off-season. That's classy and just smart.

And I like that he's signaling there is a door open for Frank if he walks through it.

However, I've heard Fiz say one thing and do another, so I'll believe it all when I see Frank excel and he is given the playing time he earns.

[Galou]

Did the French Prince awaken his super saiyan abilities?
I'd admit I was impatient with the youngin. I hope he does good this season.

[MadGrinch]

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lol, I have to disagree with you Frank becoming a respectable shooter before Trier stops being Iso Zoe. He has been working on his Catch and Shoot game all off season. Considering he was the best %shooter of ALL our guards, HE has a better chance of evolving his game to fit than Smokes does.

Trier's problem wasn't making shots ,it was moving without the ball to be open to catch and shoot , its something he doesn't do

frank takes shots he just doesn't make enough of them, repetition and time should solve this .

trier's issue is changing the way allonzo plays to some degree...his issue is the harder one to fix...because most players with his issue don't fix it.

You can't be afraid of something that you are weak at. Trier isn't afraid. Frank? Outside of FIBA, he looks like he's afraid. ISO may not be ideal, no NADA is even worse. Worse case Trier has an NBA career as an instant offense type player off the bench. Worse case for Frank is that he'll be out of the league and playing pro ball in Europe somewhere if he keeps deferring. In today's NBA you can't be just a good defender and expect to play. Need to be able to shoot/score.

people make too much of what they perceive as frank's timid nature , the facts pretty much say its overstated , his usage is 16.6 , not exactly terrified to shoot the ball he averaged 11.2 shots per 36 minutes , trier for comparison's sake avg. 12.8 shots per 36 minutes

frank's problem as i said before is he doesn't make enough of them ....trier is supposed to be a hired gun but when he isn't iso'ing he's more invisible than frank because he doesn't move off the ball...at least frank makes his impact on defense or by consistently setting others up.

most players get more accurate as they progress through their careers , significantly fewer change their nature or style of play to a large degree , isolation players by and large are getting phased out the league save for a few , if trier cant be a more consistent instant offense or be much better at availing himself to get shots by other means , he's not an nba player , lets not kid ourselves here , the team went 17-65 and allonzo didn't do much to change that.

[HarthorneWingo]

I do like that Fizdale checked in on Frank this off-season. That's classy and just smart.

And I like that he's signaling there is a door open for Frank if he walks through it.

However, I've heard Fiz say one thing and do another, so I'll believe it all when I see Frank excel and he is given the playing time he earns.

[HarthorneWingo]

He's also listed at 200 lbs, which is 30 lbs above the 170 lbs he weighed before the draft 2 years ago.

Wait, so Mitchell Robinson grew? I thought he was 6'11 last year with shoes.

thought he was always a 7fter

They can list Mitch at 6'5" for all I care so long as he keeps doing what he's doing.

[NYKAL]

I do like that Fizdale checked in on Frank this off-season. That's classy and just smart.

And I like that he's signaling there is a door open for Frank if he walks through it.

However, I've heard Fiz say one thing and do another, so I'll believe it all when I see Frank excel and he is given the playing time he earns.

I remember a thread where guys were criticizing the front office for (supposedly) ignoring what Frank was doing over there. I even said that just because no one has mentioned it does not mean they aren't paying attention. So Happy with our Front Office and Fiz. I won't be shocked to see Frank running more at the 2 & 3 than the point.

[NYKHardKnock]

Frank will break out this season

[Fat Kat]

I do like that Fizdale checked in on Frank this off-season. That's classy and just smart.

And I like that he's signaling there is a door open for Frank if he walks through it.

However, I've heard Fiz say one thing and do another, so I'll believe it all when I see Frank excel and he is given the playing time he earns.

I remember a thread where guys were criticizing the front office for (supposedly) ignoring what Frank was doing over there. I even said that just because no one has mentioned it does not mean they aren't paying attention. So Happy with our Front Office and Fiz. I won't be shocked to see Frank running more at the 2 & 3 than the point.

I think he’s worth keeping if he’s a James Posey type. Just needs to improve his shot.

[Ray Williams]

Can’t wait for that Frank / RJ backcourt, 2 huge guards, brings back memories of Clyde and the Pearl

[MaseInYourFace]

Trier's problem wasn't making shots ,it was moving without the ball to be open to catch and shoot , its something he doesn't do

frank takes shots he just doesn't make enough of them, repetition and time should solve this .

trier's issue is changing the way allonzo plays to some degree...his issue is the harder one to fix...because most players with his issue don't fix it.

You can't be afraid of something that you are weak at. Trier isn't afraid. Frank? Outside of FIBA, he looks like he's afraid. ISO may not be ideal, no NADA is even worse. Worse case Trier has an NBA career as an instant offense type player off the bench. Worse case for Frank is that he'll be out of the league and playing pro ball in Europe somewhere if he keeps deferring. In today's NBA you can't be just a good defender and expect to play. Need to be able to shoot/score.

people make too much of what they perceive as frank's timid nature , the facts pretty much say its overstated , his usage is 16.6 , not exactly terrified to shoot the ball he averaged 11.2 shots per 36 minutes , trier for comparison's sake avg. 12.8 shots per 36 minutes

frank's problem as i said before is he doesn't make enough of them ....trier is supposed to be a hired gun but when he isn't iso'ing he's more invisible than frank because he doesn't move off the ball...at least frank makes his impact on defense or by consistently setting others up.

most players get more accurate as they progress through their careers , significantly fewer change their nature or style of play to a large degree , isolation players by and large are getting phased out the league save for a few , if trier cant be a more consistent instant offense or be much better at availing himself to get shots by other means , he's not an nba player , lets not kid ourselves here , the team went 17-65 and allonzo didn't do much to change that.

It is more style of play than raw number of shots taken.

[NYKAL]

Can’t wait for that Frank / RJ backcourt, 2 huge guards, brings back memories of Clyde and the Pearl

I said the same thing and many came back to me about the shooting but, I think RJ will thrive at the line.

[MadGrinch]

You can't be afraid of something that you are weak at. Trier isn't afraid. Frank? Outside of FIBA, he looks like he's afraid. ISO may not be ideal, no NADA is even worse. Worse case Trier has an NBA career as an instant offense type player off the bench. Worse case for Frank is that he'll be out of the league and playing pro ball in Europe somewhere if he keeps deferring. In today's NBA you can't be just a good defender and expect to play. Need to be able to shoot/score.

people make too much of what they perceive as frank's timid nature , the facts pretty much say its overstated , his usage is 16.6 , not exactly terrified to shoot the ball he averaged 11.2 shots per 36 minutes , trier for comparison's sake avg. 12.8 shots per 36 minutes

frank's problem as i said before is he doesn't make enough of them ....trier is supposed to be a hired gun but when he isn't iso'ing he's more invisible than frank because he doesn't move off the ball...at least frank makes his impact on defense or by consistently setting others up.

most players get more accurate as they progress through their careers , significantly fewer change their nature or style of play to a large degree , isolation players by and large are getting phased out the league save for a few , if trier cant be a more consistent instant offense or be much better at availing himself to get shots by other means , he's not an nba player , lets not kid ourselves here , the team went 17-65 and allonzo didn't do much to change that.

It is more style of play than raw number of shots taken.

and trier's style isn't sustainable ...frank's is

teams don't need offensive players who don't take shots or aren't offensively aggressive

he's a pass 1st point guard vs a shoot 1st player and their difference in usage is less than 5%(21.5 to 16.6 )

shots per 36 minutes difference is 1.6

and the truth is most players who are so bad at stuff never actually become good at it , the simple truth is 78.5 % of the time when trier isn't dominating the ball he's probably a net negative on offense because he doesn't avail himself as a pressure valve for whomever does have it ...nor does he shoot enough to have teams scheme for him with or without the ball.

[thebuzzardman]

French Knick Pod getting out of hand

[Blockwatcher]

Haha Frank plans on growing well into his 30's.
He'll be 7 ft when he makes his 1st all star game and 8 ft in time for retirement

[Jalen Bluntson]

Frank will be a GAWD!! AND YOU ALL WILL LIKE IT!!