Trades and Transactions thread - To the offseason!

[digitaldropoff]

No I disagree. Grant obviously is not a go to guy, but he's also not just your average glue guy. He's a legit monster down low, unbelievable athlete, shot blocker and shooter. Relentless motor, he finishes everything.

He's not a glue guy, but possibly the best there can be. Him next to Mitch would be crazy (and that's still an understatement) and he's also plus 40% from three.

His skill level is ridiculous. This is a special situation.

Good athlete, good shooter, good defender....how is that not a little like Trevor Ariza?

We basically agree...you just see the term glue guy as a diss. Draymond Green is the epitome of a glue guy and he's going to be making 22 million dollars next season.

Of course we agree in general. I love glue guys and want us to finally add some, but in this case I only view the player (Grant) as a little more than just that. Unlike Ariza, we're talking about a high-flying shot blocker, not merely a good, but an absolutely great athlete.

While this is not a star in the conventional sense, the way he'd enable us to use different, limited players (Mitch+Randle) and rotations is absolutely outstanding to me and more valuable than anything Randle can do at the peak of his game.

Grant has been shooting above 39% from three for two straight years and around 35% his entire career. He is not a star, but he offers a combination of skills that Ariza, Covington etc can't match.

If he is that good, that means he's worth 18-20 per year. Are you cool with the Knicks handing that out? I personally don't think Denver can keep him without moving Harris or Barton for an expiring IMO. With Murray and Joker maxing it, they don't have much returning next year, they'd most likely go into the tax retaining him and then replacing the rest of their roster with G league and vet min deals.

[spree2kawhi]

Good athlete, good shooter, good defender....how is that not a little like Trevor Ariza?

We basically agree...you just see the term glue guy as a diss. Draymond Green is the epitome of a glue guy and he's going to be making 22 million dollars next season.

Of course we agree in general. I love glue guys and want us to finally add some, but in this case I only view the player (Grant) as a little more than just that. Unlike Ariza, we're talking about a high-flying shot blocker, not merely a good, but an absolutely great athlete.

While this is not a star in the conventional sense, the way he'd enable us to use different, limited players (Mitch+Randle) and rotations is absolutely outstanding to me and more valuable than anything Randle can do at the peak of his game.

Grant has been shooting above 39% from three for two straight years and around 35% his entire career. He is not a star, but he offers a combination of skills that Ariza, Covington etc can't match.

If he is that good, that means he's worth 18-20 per year. Are you cool with the Knicks handing that out? I personally don't think Denver can keep him without moving Harris or Barton for an expiring IMO. With Murray and Joker maxing it, they don't have much returning next year, they'd most likely go into the tax retaining him and then replacing the rest of their roster with G league and vet min deals.

Yeah I am as he's been easily good enough for a long enough period now. Just don't expect a go-to scorer, expect everything else.

He combines skills at a high level that you don't find around the league.

[sol537]

I like Grant because he's a great fit next to Mitch and I see Mitch as a possible long-term solution at the "5". We'd have a young, dynamic, and great-fitting front court for once. I would prefer Isaac out of Orlando but I think he'd require too many assets to obtain.

I like Hield because of his great shooting ability and see him as a good fit next to RJ and Frank. I also think obtaining him would not require too many assets given Sac's preference to resign Bags at SG. A starting "5" of Mitch, Grant, RJ, Hield, and Frank/Draftee would absolutely fight for a playoff spot next season and would be way better than our team this season and would give lots of growth opportunities for our young'ins in a winning environment. And it would be 100% more fun to watch than the current trash. Lastly, it would allow us to preserve a max cap slot for 2021 free agency which is crucial because if we add one true stud to that type of core, we would step up to contender status (see Toronto pre-Kawhi acquisition).

There are many ways to build a contender. I like the above approach.

[digitaldropoff]

I like Grant because he's a great fit next to Mitch and I see Mitch as a possible long-term solution at the "5". We'd have a young, dynamic, and great-fitting front court for once. I would prefer Isaac out of Orlando but I think he'd require too many assets to obtain.

I like Hield because of his great shooting ability and see him as a good fit next to RJ and Frank. I also think obtaining him would not require too many assets given Sac's preference to resign Bags at SG. A starting "5" of Mitch, Grant, RJ, Hield, and Frank/Draftee would absolutely fight for a playoff spot next season and would be way better than our team this season and would give lots of growth opportunities for our young'ins in a winning environment. And it would be 100% more fun to watch than the current trash. Lastly, it would allow us to preserve a max cap slot for 2021 free agency which is crucial because if we add one true stud to that type of core, we would step up to contender status (see Toronto pre-Kawhi acquisition).

There are many ways to build a contender. I like the above approach.

Hield is going to cost a lotto pick, no way around that. Further, Sac can afford Bogs. It will take a massive offer for them to refuse, especially with Bjelica and Parker falling off the following year.

[sol537]

I like Grant because he's a great fit next to Mitch and I see Mitch as a possible long-term solution at the "5". We'd have a young, dynamic, and great-fitting front court for once. I would prefer Isaac out of Orlando but I think he'd require too many assets to obtain.

I like Hield because of his great shooting ability and see him as a good fit next to RJ and Frank. I also think obtaining him would not require too many assets given Sac's preference to resign Bags at SG. A starting "5" of Mitch, Grant, RJ, Hield, and Frank/Draftee would absolutely fight for a playoff spot next season and would be way better than our team this season and would give lots of growth opportunities for our young'ins in a winning environment. And it would be 100% more fun to watch than the current trash. Lastly, it would allow us to preserve a max cap slot for 2021 free agency which is crucial because if we add one true stud to that type of core, we would step up to contender status (see Toronto pre-Kawhi acquisition).

There are many ways to build a contender. I like the above approach.

Hield is going to cost a lotto pick, no way around that. Further, Sac can afford Bogs. It will take a massive offer for them to refuse, especially with Bjelica and Parker falling off the following year.

My hope is that his cost is driven down if he demands a trade this off-season. We can still send them a combo of future picks for some reasonable compensation.

[spree2kawhi]

I like Grant because he's a great fit next to Mitch and I see Mitch as a possible long-term solution at the "5". We'd have a young, dynamic, and great-fitting front court for once. I would prefer Isaac out of Orlando but I think he'd require too many assets to obtain.

I like Hield because of his great shooting ability and see him as a good fit next to RJ and Frank. I also think obtaining him would not require too many assets given Sac's preference to resign Bags at SG. A starting "5" of Mitch, Grant, RJ, Hield, and Frank/Draftee would absolutely fight for a playoff spot next season and would be way better than our team this season and would give lots of growth opportunities for our young'ins in a winning environment. And it would be 100% more fun to watch than the current trash. Lastly, it would allow us to preserve a max cap slot for 2021 free agency which is crucial because if we add one true stud to that type of core, we would step up to contender status (see Toronto pre-Kawhi acquisition).

There are many ways to build a contender. I like the above approach.

Hield is going to cost a lotto pick, no way around that. Further, Sac can afford Bogs. It will take a massive offer for them to refuse, especially with Bjelica and Parker falling off the following year.

My hope is that his cost is driven down if he demands a trade this off-season. We can still send them a combo of future picks for some reasonable compensation.

Ideally we get Edwards instead. If not, Hield is the top target and since we have RJ to ignite offense, Hield would be a great fit. Consequently we should be ready to pay a certain price.

[BLACKFEET 2010]

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2878435-knicks-trade-rumors-ny-was-very-hesitant-to-move-kevin-knox-at-deadline

[spree2kawhi]

Knox rookie year 12.8 ppg, 4.5 rpg
RJ rookie year ~13 ppg, 5 rpg

[cgmw]

Knox rookie year 12.8 ppg, 4.5 rpg
RJ rookie year ~13 ppg, 5 rpg

Frightening when you put it that way.

[spree2kawhi]

Knox rookie year 12.8 ppg, 4.5 rpg
RJ rookie year ~13 ppg, 5 rpg

Frightening when you put it that way.

I'm not trying to convey any message, it just struck me as interesting.

[ADeP7]

A pg in the lotto and adding hield or Beal would be the ideal move.
How likely is that no clue. But that is what the target should be

[bleedblue3303]

How could we manage Lamelo Beal Ingram randle Mitch lineup


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[Fat]

This free agency is terrible I wouldn’t do much of anything. go after Bertans if you must make a move. Reserve the rest of the cap space for The 2021 free agency where their are much better names available.

Lamelo
Bullock
Barret
Bertans
Mitchell

[ADeP7]

How could we manage Lamelo Beal Ingram randle Mitch lineup


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How
Land top 2 or 3 and draft Lamelo

For Ingram
Option 1 - Barrett in a sign and trade for Ingram
Option 2- sign and trade both mavs picks for Ingram

For Beal
Option 1 - Barrett and a couple players
Option 2 -2021 unprotected , players / and a future pick

[thebuzzardman]

Knox rookie year 12.8 ppg, 4.5 rpg
RJ rookie year ~13 ppg, 5 rpg

Without checking that stats, I bet they both rock/rocked the same sub 40% shooting % too. Amiright?

[thebuzzardman]

Knox rookie year 12.8 ppg, 4.5 rpg
RJ rookie year ~13 ppg, 5 rpg

Without checking that stats, I bet they both rock/rocked the same sub 40% shooting % too. Amiright?

RJ: .389%
Knox: .370% (rookie year)

I have faith in RJ to achieve that Knox level

BLUEPRINT!

[Dave DaButcher]

Knox rookie year 12.8 ppg, 4.5 rpg
RJ rookie year ~13 ppg, 5 rpg

Without checking that stats, I bet they both rock/rocked the same sub 40% shooting % too. Amiright?

RJ: .389%
Knox: .370% (rookie year)

I have faith in RJ to achieve that Knox level

BLUEPRINT!

“Cocooning” is apparently a term for being really, really bad. Who knew?

Read on Twitter

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[spree2kawhi]

Without checking that stats, I bet they both rock/rocked the same sub 40% shooting % too. Amiright?

RJ: .389%
Knox: .370% (rookie year)

I have faith in RJ to achieve that Knox level

BLUEPRINT!

“Cocooning” is apparently a term for being really, really bad. Who knew?

Read on Twitter

?s=21

The kid has a ton of talent. I believe in him.

[bleedblue3303]

How could we manage Lamelo Beal Ingram randle Mitch lineup


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How
Land top 2 or 3 and draft Lamelo

For Ingram
Option 1 - Barrett in a sign and trade for Ingram
Option 2- sign and trade both mavs picks for Ingram

For Beal
Option 1 - Barrett and a couple players
Option 2 -2021 unprotected , players / and a future pick

Let’s say this can happen. How far do u think that team can go? Could it make ECF?
Also I like the idea Randle comes off books in 2021. We bring real alpha at that point.


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[ADeP7]

How could we manage Lamelo Beal Ingram randle Mitch lineup


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How
Land top 2 or 3 and draft Lamelo

For Ingram
Option 1 - Barrett in a sign and trade for Ingram
Option 2- sign and trade both mavs picks for Ingram

For Beal
Option 1 - Barrett and a couple players
Option 2 -2021 unprotected , players / and a future pick

Let’s say this can happen. How far do u think that team can go? Could it make ECF?
Also I like the idea Randle comes off books in 2021. We bring real alpha at that point.


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Team fully gets bounced 2nd round. Randle not a good fit with Mitch imo and what can lamelo realistically bring to the table.
Now you add a stretch 4 and let Beal and Ingram go to work. I think in a 2 years they can get to ecf