PG: GRIMES Shines. Stat Whore Randle Throws in the Towel

Clyde_Style · Post #321 » by **Clyde_Style** » Mon Dec 13, 2021 4:17 am

robillionaire wrote:
knickstape4ever wrote:
DaGawd wrote:Yeah.. you can’t tell they really have this hard on for preserving FA space with the way they punted the draft to save a few extra pennies… At least it appears they made solid picks where they finally settled in but damn..

was really annoyed w/ their draft for the same reason. felt they punted on it. nothing against Grimes and McBride, but we could've had both of them + taken a swing at a higher upside player

and they did it to preserve 2 max spots for 2023/24 offseason....when is this organization gonna learn? we have a better shot at landing a star in the lotto than in FA, FO just needs to be willing to bottom out

We took a swing at another higher upside player, future star Rokas Jokubaitis

Clyde_Style · Post #322 » by **Clyde_Style** » Mon Dec 13, 2021 4:19 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
F N 11 wrote:If anybody take Randle for 4 1/2 years we lucky af. Someone mentioned there would be politics even if someone wants him. “Other players won’t want to come after they see how we treated Randle.”

Those fears are meaningless. If the club improves its fortunes by trading a player then it's a good move and any prospective Knick would see that

The Knicks need a “House Husband”.

who doubles as a fluffer

HarthorneWingo · Post #323 » by **HarthorneWingo** » Mon Dec 13, 2021 4:28 am

Clyde_Style wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
Those fears are meaningless. If the club improves its fortunes by trading a player then it's a good move and any prospective Knick would see that

The Knicks need a “House Husband”.

who doubles as a fluffer

No way!

blueNorange · Post #324 » by **blueNorange** » Mon Dec 13, 2021 4:28 am

randle being traded to portland makes so much sense for both teams.

DaGawd · Post #325 » by **DaGawd** » Mon Dec 13, 2021 4:38 am

Why can’t Randle be traded until February? Because it was an extension rather than FA?

KnicksGadfly · Post #326 » by **KnicksGadfly** » Mon Dec 13, 2021 4:41 am

Meh, this was kind of an expected loss, even without people missing, and our young guys did well. I’m kind of more annoyed we’ve been giving away wins against **** teams.

DaGawd · Post #327 » by **DaGawd** » Mon Dec 13, 2021 4:43 am

KnicksGadfly wrote:Meh, this was kind of an expected loss, even without people missing, and our young guys did well. I’m kind of more annoyed we’ve been giving away wins against **** teams.

The mark of a team that just isn’t that good. The time to cushion the record has passed and we failed

Richard4444 · Post #328 » by **Richard4444** » Mon Dec 13, 2021 4:43 am

DaGawd wrote:Why can’t Randle be traded until February? Because it was an extension rather than FA?

Yes, 6 months of waiting after an extension.

HarthorneWingo · Post #329 » by **HarthorneWingo** » Mon Dec 13, 2021 4:44 am

KnicksGadfly wrote:Meh, this was kind of an expected loss, even without people missing, and our young guys did well. I’m kind of more annoyed we’ve been giving away wins against **** teams.

True but according to the eye test this team is a mess right now.

Richard4444 · Post #330 » by **Richard4444** » Mon Dec 13, 2021 4:46 am

Spree2Houston wrote:Randle to Portland for Robert Convington, Larry Lance Jr and picks works in the trade checker. Covington expires this season and Lance next season.

They need the defense. The guy to come should be CJ.

prophet_of_rage · Post #331 » by **prophet_of_rage** » Mon Dec 13, 2021 5:00 am

Clyde_Style wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
Juco24 wrote:
And plays defense

That’s the big difference. Evan looks like he belongs back in France.

Evan joue comme merde

Toi, tu insultes la merde.

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John Murdoch · Post #332 » by **John Murdoch** » Mon Dec 13, 2021 5:04 am

KnicksGod wrote:Grimes looked good ... good enough to dump Randle in a trade lol?

Knicks need to just undo the Randle thing and fast. It's not a slump, it's his whole dealio. Put a pick in the deal and just bit the bullet.

I havent been watching yall..has Randle reverted back to tunnell vision bull in a china shop laker version?

prophet_of_rage · Post #333 » by **prophet_of_rage** » Mon Dec 13, 2021 5:05 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:Randle has Connaughton on him in the post and commits a turnover by throwing the ball into the backcourt.

Randle is trying not to be a hog. Hevcan't mix things up yet. He more than any Knick needs continuity and a defined role.

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DaGawd · Post #334 » by **DaGawd** » Mon Dec 13, 2021 5:07 am

prophet_of_rage wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:Randle has Connaughton on him in the post and commits a turnover by throwing the ball into the backcourt.
Randle is trying not to be a hog. Hevcan't mix things up yet. He more than any Knick needs continuity and a defined role.

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The problem is he struggles to fit in to any role where he isn’t the main hub of the offense.. he needs to be the the de facto point guard so to speak to really play his game freely. He can’t play without the ball in his hands making him a real issue since he isn’t hitting his shot the way he did last season. Just a really tough player to build anything solid around if he isn’t playing like how he did last season which he isn’t by a long shot

DaGawd · Post #335 » by **DaGawd** » Mon Dec 13, 2021 5:09 am

John Murdoch wrote:
KnicksGod wrote:Grimes looked good ... good enough to dump Randle in a trade lol?

Knicks need to just undo the Randle thing and fast. It's not a slump, it's his whole dealio. Put a pick in the deal and just bit the bullet.

I havent been watching yall..has Randle reverted back to tunnell vision bull in a china shop laker version?

No so much the bull in China shop part but definitely holds the ball too long at times and waits until the double team gets to him before committing to making a move which often leads to him turning it over or taking a terrible shot

B8RcDeMktfxC · Post #336 » by **B8RcDeMktfxC** » Mon Dec 13, 2021 5:13 am

Clyde_Style wrote:
knickstape4ever wrote:
god shammgod wrote:

Read on Twitter

from yesterday. randle not a leader. a sad loner. he's the kid cudi of the nba. had 1 big album and now just dresses funny. sad.

Is this the start? maybe the media turning on him will force the FO hand to trade him

they already have a pretty good excuse to move him: the emergence of Obi....who they drafted

The media turning on a player provides a screen for the FO and makes trading them plausible and sellable to Dolan. They can pitch it as a character issue and essentially run the guy down so it’s the player’s fault, not the executives who signed him. Not saying that is ethical, but it is what they will do. So expect leaks to the media now to build their case. This is how it is going to happen.

Never happened before.

Spoiler:

prophet_of_rage · Post #337 » by **prophet_of_rage** » Mon Dec 13, 2021 5:13 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:
knickstape4ever wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
Just don’t tell him that.

he'd learn fast on a team with more talent

He’s such a pouter. I guess when you grew up as a top 5 high school talent and a top 3 draft pick of the Lakers out of UK, it can mess with your head.

Julius has the talent to be an 18/10/5 PF in the league if his mind was right.

He is that now basically.

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B8RcDeMktfxC · Post #338 » by **B8RcDeMktfxC** » Mon Dec 13, 2021 5:22 am

John Murdoch wrote:
KnicksGod wrote:Grimes looked good ... good enough to dump Randle in a trade lol?

Knicks need to just undo the Randle thing and fast. It's not a slump, it's his whole dealio. Put a pick in the deal and just bit the bullet.

I havent been watching yall..has Randle reverted back to tunnell vision bull in a china shop laker version?

No. The problems are more complicated than that.

B8RcDeMktfxC · Post #339 » by **B8RcDeMktfxC** » Mon Dec 13, 2021 5:22 am

Richard4444 wrote:
DaGawd wrote:Why can’t Randle be traded until February? Because it was an extension rather than FA?

Yes, 6 months of waiting after an extension.

Yes, 2nd Feb.

B8RcDeMktfxC · Post #340 » by **B8RcDeMktfxC** » Mon Dec 13, 2021 5:24 am

Clyde_Style wrote:
robillionaire wrote:
knickstape4ever wrote:
was really annoyed w/ their draft for the same reason. felt they punted on it. nothing against Grimes and McBride, but we could've had both of them + taken a swing at a higher upside player

and they did it to preserve 2 max spots for 2023/24 offseason....when is this organization gonna learn? we have a better shot at landing a star in the lotto than in FA, FO just needs to be willing to bottom out

We took a swing at another higher upside player, future star Rokas Jokubaitis

eeehhh. Rokas is doing pretty well for BCN so far, and definitely scoring more (literally - the pts from the baskets he makes) than expected.