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Re: Knicks Free Agency Frenzy Part Deux 

Post#321 » by Jalen Bluntson » Fri Jul 1, 2022 3:05 pm

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Are We Ther Yet wrote:We need someone to clear up the cap implications for these moves. I'm getting confused with TPEs and cap rules etc.

I was under the impression we could only offer Mitch 4/54. Now he's getting 4/60. I thought we needed to S&T for Brunson or we wouldn't be able to make any other moves except for Mitch and the exception. We signed Hartenstein for 8mil per. How?

We need answers.

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I guess it was false reporting that we could only offer 4/54 for Mitch? I understand how his cap hold helped us get Brunson. Now Mitch is getting 4/60 though. I also was under the impression we needed to S&T for Brunson or we couldn't make any other moves because we only had minimal cap left it we signed him outright. I guess we will have to add Cam or Grimes in the Brunson deal to clear the space for Hartenstein? Then we are capped out?

I want Fournier gone no matter what these answers are!! :lol:
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Post#322 » by KnixinSix » Fri Jul 1, 2022 3:08 pm

According to Cohen there may be a S&T in the works
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Re: Knicks Free Agency Frenzy Part Deux 

Post#323 » by Fury » Fri Jul 1, 2022 3:09 pm

KnixinSix wrote:According to Cohen there may be a S&T in the works


Brunson?
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Re: Knicks Free Agency Frenzy Part Deux 

Post#324 » by thebuzzardman » Fri Jul 1, 2022 3:10 pm

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Post#325 » by El Poochio » Fri Jul 1, 2022 3:11 pm

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Post#326 » by mpharris36 » Fri Jul 1, 2022 3:12 pm

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IQ buried LOL



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Re: Knicks Free Agency Frenzy Part Deux 

Post#327 » by El Poochio » Fri Jul 1, 2022 3:13 pm

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El Poochio wrote:
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good enough for the play in?


IQ buried LOL



Its going to be Cam


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Re: Knicks Free Agency Frenzy Part Deux 

Post#328 » by Jalen Bluntson » Fri Jul 1, 2022 3:13 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
snadler wrote:
Read on Twitter
?s=21&t=ku8i1UL3XuqR2XUIhvlKiw


Immediately the most overpaid Knick.

Good job. Probably locked Aller in the closet for this move, Perry ran over to the tiny desk, pen in hand.


You are still in peak regular season form. You have to reset during draft/trade/FA period!! :lol:
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Re: Knicks Free Agency Frenzy Part Deux 

Post#329 » by Deeeez Knicks » Fri Jul 1, 2022 3:15 pm

Are We Ther Yet wrote:
Reign23 wrote:
Are We Ther Yet wrote:We need someone to clear up the cap implications for these moves. I'm getting confused with TPEs and cap rules etc.

I was under the impression we could only offer Mitch 4/54. Now he's getting 4/60. I thought we needed to S&T for Brunson or we wouldn't be able to make any other moves except for Mitch and the exception. We signed Hartenstein for 8mil per. How?

We need answers.

Read on Twitter


I guess it was false reporting that we could only offer 4/54 for Mitch? I understand how his cap hold helped us get Brunson. Now Mitch is getting 4/60 though. I also was under the impression we needed to S&T for Brunson or we couldn't make any other moves because we only had minimal cap left it we signed him outright. I guess we will have to add Cam or Grimes in the Brunson deal to clear the space for Hartenstein? Then we are capped out?

I want Fournier gone no matter what these answers are!! :lol:


I think that was just his max extension he could sign before free agency. And even then he could have earned over $60mil with incentives and bonus’s. Now I think they could sign him up to 25% of the cap that he hit free agency. They may have agreed on the extension early just waited so Knicks could fit these other moves in.

For Brunson/Harenstein, Knicks cleared enough cap to sign both outright but they also can still work out a sign and trade and work Harenstein into the MLE.

Overall just have to wait until all the details on these contracts work out.
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Re: Knicks Free Agency Frenzy Part Deux 

Post#330 » by Reign23 » Fri Jul 1, 2022 3:16 pm

El Poochio wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
El Poochio wrote:
IQ buried LOL



Its going to be Cam


Nah Thibs loves size

nah MP is right.

Brunson/Rose
Fournier/IQ
RJ/Grimes
Randle/Obi
Mitch/Hartenstein

would start Grimes over Fournier for defense, but who am I kidding, thibs is never going to do that.
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Re: Knicks Free Agency Frenzy Part Deux 

Post#331 » by mpharris36 » Fri Jul 1, 2022 3:16 pm

El Poochio wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
El Poochio wrote:
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Its going to be Cam


Nah Thibs loves size


He never put him in the rotation last year...don't see how that changes. He likes IQ and Grimes...and Fournier is def still playing. Cam is the odd man out before IQ.
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Post#332 » by F N 11 » Fri Jul 1, 2022 3:18 pm

Cohen sign and trade what?
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Post#333 » by thebuzzardman » Fri Jul 1, 2022 3:21 pm

F N 11 wrote:Cohen sign and trade what?


Complicated stuff where maybe the three players sent to detroit get redirected to Mavs, and Brunson to Knicks, so Mavs get TPE - or some portion? You'd have to find his tweet.

The other variations are Fournier or Cam going out and creating different TPE's.
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Post#334 » by Oscirus » Fri Jul 1, 2022 3:21 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
El Poochio wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:

Its going to be Cam


Nah Thibs loves size


He never put him in the rotation last year...don't see how that changes. He likes IQ and Grimes...and Fournier is def still playing. Cam is the odd man out before IQ.

doesnt help that cam stays injured
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Re: Knicks Free Agency Frenzy Part Deux 

Post#335 » by Jalen Bluntson » Fri Jul 1, 2022 3:21 pm

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I guess it was false reporting that we could only offer 4/54 for Mitch? I understand how his cap hold helped us get Brunson. Now Mitch is getting 4/60 though. I also was under the impression we needed to S&T for Brunson or we couldn't make any other moves because we only had minimal cap left it we signed him outright. I guess we will have to add Cam or Grimes in the Brunson deal to clear the space for Hartenstein? Then we are capped out?

I want Fournier gone no matter what these answers are!! :lol:


I think that was just his max extension he could sign before free agency. And even then he could have earned over $60mil with incentives and bonus’s. Now I think they could sign him up to 25% of the cap that he hit free agency. They may have agreed on the extension early just waited so Knicks could fit these other moves in.

For Brunson/Harenstein, Knicks cleared enough cap to sign both outright but they also can still work out a sign and trade and work Harenstein into the MLE.

Overall just have to wait until all the details on these contracts work out.


Ahh...we cleared enough to sign those two outright? That's over 30mil though right? Thought we were at 29-30mil. Some suggested the deal was more in the first year for Brunson. 28+mil. If it's 24mil it's still not enough.

I realized things can be tweaked before they become official. I just wanted to know HOW they can be tweaked.

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Post#336 » by F N 11 » Fri Jul 1, 2022 3:23 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
F N 11 wrote:Cohen sign and trade what?


Complicated stuff where maybe the three players sent to detroit get redirected to Mavs, and Brunson to Knicks, so Mavs get TPE - or some portion? You'd have to find his tweet.

The other variations are Fournier or Cam going out and creating different TPE's.

This is big news where tf is this lol
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Re: Knicks Free Agency Frenzy Part Deux 

Post#337 » by El Poochio » Fri Jul 1, 2022 3:27 pm

Reign23 wrote:
El Poochio wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:

Its going to be Cam


Nah Thibs loves size

nah MP is right.

Brunson/Rose
Fournier/IQ
RJ/Grimes
Randle/Obi
Mitch/Hartenstein

would start Grimes over Fournier for defense, but who am I kidding, thibs is never going to do that.


You know damn well Grimes at 3 is too small ball for Thibs
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Re: Knicks Free Agency Frenzy Part Deux 

Post#338 » by GONYK » Fri Jul 1, 2022 3:28 pm

Oscirus wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
El Poochio wrote:
Nah Thibs loves size


He never put him in the rotation last year...don't see how that changes. He likes IQ and Grimes...and Fournier is def still playing. Cam is the odd man out before IQ.

doesnt help that cam stays injured

Or the reports that Thibs thought Cam was lazy and didn't practice well
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Post#339 » by robillionaire » Fri Jul 1, 2022 3:28 pm

I hope year 4 was a team option at least because yikes
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Post#340 » by F N 11 » Fri Jul 1, 2022 3:30 pm

It’s going to be an option… and this is the new nba money everyone can just stop.

Knicks have to be trading for an impact player because this is an all in season part 2
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