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Re: Melo Trade Idea 

Post#3241 » by Jwduff » Thu Dec 5, 2013 9:45 pm

Dkillanyk4lyf wrote:
Jwduff wrote:What do my fellow Knicks Fans think about this deal?

NYK-Chi-Cle

NY trades:
Melo
KMart

NY gets:
Taj Gibson
Waiters
Varejao

Chi 2015 1st
Cha 2014 1st

Cle Trades:
Varejao
Waiters

Cle Gets:
Deng

Chi Trades:
Gibson
Deng
Cha 2014 1st
Chi 2015 1st

Chi gets:
Melo
Kmart


I like that deal for us...but you guys have to understand that we are not going to get a lot back for a guy that can walk at the end of the year.


One would think Chicago is one place Melo would want play right?
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Re: Knicks-Related Trade "THOUGHTS" Thread 

Post#3242 » by Jwduff » Thu Dec 5, 2013 9:48 pm

Here is another one

Ny:
Tyson Chandler
JR Smith

OKC:
Perkins
Jones III
KMartin TPE
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OKC 2014 1st (top 26 protected)
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Knicks-Related Trade "THOUGHTS" Thread 

Post#3243 » by machu46 » Thu Dec 5, 2013 10:01 pm

bkknicks19 wrote:Gotta agree with seren here. And you kind of make the point for him imo. His ability to hit free throws is largely what makes him a bigger threat. Chandler, despite what you may think, doesn't struggle nearly as much to get in double digits as jordan. Chandler has had games where ALL his points have come from FT's and scored 10+ and he's had games where he was one our top scorer's and we've won. No team ignores chandler the way you ignore jordan. Chandler aint Marc Gasol but he aint Jordan either. You can have him on the floor in crunch time and you can't just foul him like you can DJ. There's a reason he's an NBA champion, DPOY, Gold medalist, etc.


I mean, even with free throws, they score about the same amount per game if their minutes are equal. And again, I'm not talking about free throws anyways. I'm talking about scoring out of the offense. Neither can score in the post. They both score out of the pick and roll equally. They both score on alley oops. They both score on cuts (DeAndre a little more). And they both can't spot up. There's almost no difference in terms of scoring ability.

Anyways, I don't want to hijack the thread, so I'll just leave it at that lol. Carry on with the trade ideas.
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Re: Knicks-Related Trade "THOUGHTS" Thread 

Post#3244 » by Rasho Brezec » Thu Dec 5, 2013 10:04 pm

Knicks trade:

Tyson Chandler
Iman Shumpert
Raymond Felton
Cole Aldrich

OKC trades:

Kendrick Perkins
Thabo Sefolosha
Reggie Jackson
Steven Adams

We can play faster, upgrade the PG spot and get a backup C in Perkins. I'm not sure OKC's willing to pay lux tax for this to happen, though.
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Re: Knicks-Related Trade "THOUGHTS" Thread 

Post#3245 » by DK-All Day » Thu Dec 5, 2013 10:08 pm

Celtics fan here.....Would you guys do this trade:

Bradley,Olynyk,Green, BOS 2015,BRK 2016 for Anthony,J.R. Smith

Celtics get their second star to pair with Rondo and will look to add another this summer.Carmelo said that he wanted to play with Rondo

Knicks pick up some assets and rebuild.
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Re: Knicks-Related Trade "THOUGHTS" Thread 

Post#3246 » by GONYK » Thu Dec 5, 2013 10:09 pm

DK-All Day wrote:Celtics fan here.....Would you guys do this trade:

Bradley,Olynyk,Green, BOS 2015,BRK 2016 for Anthony,J.R. Smith

Celtics get their second star to pair with Rondo and will look to add another this summer.Carmelo said that he wanted to play with Rondo

Knicks pick up some assets and rebuild.


Give us your 1st rounder this year and keep your 2015 pick
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Re: Knicks-Related Trade "THOUGHTS" Thread 

Post#3247 » by br7knicks » Thu Dec 5, 2013 10:11 pm

why won't the suns trade. they should get rid of either dragic or bledsoe.


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melo
jr smith


maybe some picks coming back
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Re: Knicks-Related Trade "THOUGHTS" Thread 

Post#3248 » by br7knicks » Thu Dec 5, 2013 10:12 pm

DK-All Day wrote:Celtics fan here.....Would you guys do this trade:

Bradley,Olynyk,Green, BOS 2015,BRK 2016 for Anthony,J.R. Smith

Celtics get their second star to pair with Rondo and will look to add another this summer.Carmelo said that he wanted to play with Rondo

Knicks pick up some assets and rebuild.


i'd prefer to have a PG (rondo) coming back instead. but i'd do that trade if, like GONYK said, picks coming back that are coming up rather than 2 years down the road.


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Re: Knicks-Related Trade "THOUGHTS" Thread 

Post#3249 » by GONYK » Thu Dec 5, 2013 10:12 pm

br7knicks wrote:why won't the suns trade. they should get rid of either dragic or bledsoe.


dragic
mark morris
plumlee
okafor

melo
jr smith


maybe some picks coming back


Melo nixes that
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Re: Knicks-Related Trade "THOUGHTS" Thread 

Post#3250 » by br7knicks » Thu Dec 5, 2013 10:15 pm

GONYK wrote:
br7knicks wrote:why won't the suns trade. they should get rid of either dragic or bledsoe.


dragic
mark morris
plumlee
okafor

melo
jr smith


maybe some picks coming back


Melo nixes that


you think so? to play next to a guy like bledsoe? i know he wants big market, but he's leaving NY


plus he walks with his boy JR
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Re: Knicks-Related Trade "THOUGHTS" Thread 

Post#3251 » by Rasho Brezec » Thu Dec 5, 2013 10:17 pm

DK-All Day wrote:Celtics fan here.....Would you guys do this trade:

Bradley,Olynyk,Green, BOS 2015,BRK 2016 for Anthony,J.R. Smith

Celtics get their second star to pair with Rondo and will look to add another this summer.Carmelo said that he wanted to play with Rondo

Knicks pick up some assets and rebuild.

Give us all of Brooklyn's picks and you can keep your young guys. We'll take your big contracts that expire before 2015 and Brooks who doesn't play for you.
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Re: Knicks-Related Trade "THOUGHTS" Thread 

Post#3252 » by GONYK » Thu Dec 5, 2013 10:17 pm

br7knicks wrote:
GONYK wrote:
br7knicks wrote:why won't the suns trade. they should get rid of either dragic or bledsoe.


dragic
mark morris
plumlee
okafor

melo
jr smith


maybe some picks coming back


Melo nixes that


you think so? to play next to a guy like bledsoe? i know he wants big market, but he's leaving NY


He's leaving NY to probably go to LA.

If playing next to young talent in a small market under cheap ownership was his thing, why not just stay in Denver?
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Re: Knicks-Related Trade "THOUGHTS" Thread 

Post#3253 » by moocow007 » Thu Dec 5, 2013 10:24 pm

br7knicks wrote:why won't the suns trade. they should get rid of either dragic or bledsoe.


dragic
mark morris
plumlee
okafor

melo
jr smith


maybe some picks coming back


There better be some picks...not maybe.
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Re: Knicks-Related Trade "THOUGHTS" Thread 

Post#3254 » by br7knicks » Thu Dec 5, 2013 11:13 pm

GONYK wrote:
br7knicks wrote:
you think so? to play next to a guy like bledsoe? i know he wants big market, but he's leaving NY


He's leaving NY to probably go to LA.

If playing next to young talent in a small market under cheap ownership was his thing, why not just stay in Denver?


that's the team i was worried about. they're going to need a new star, with kobe leaving fairly soon. all melo cares about is money, not winning. so going to LA probably is where he'll end up. I didn't know he had a no-trade clause, honestly.

i just would like to see some of that young, team-first type of talent coming back.
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Re: Knicks-Related Trade "THOUGHTS" Thread 

Post#3255 » by JDLAW » Fri Dec 6, 2013 1:13 am

br7knicks wrote:why won't the suns trade. they should get rid of either dragic or bledsoe.


dragic
mark morris
plumlee
okafor

melo
jr smith


maybe some picks coming back


Why should they "get rid of either Dragic or Bledsoe?" Both are playing well and meshing into a very good backcourt. There is no chance that the Suns make a trade like this, especially when Melo has already stated his intention to opt out and become a free agent. If he were to do so, Suns would essentially be trading Dragic, Markief Morris, Plumlee, Okafor and "picks" for J.R. Smith as a net result. No one in their right minds would do such a thing.

The fact is that the Suns have assembled a team of inexpensive, hungry, team-oriented players who have more talent than some pundits have predicted and are playing respectable ball. They brought in a good GM and coach who have a plan and have as many as 4 draft picks in next year's draft. They are not going to waste their assets on a 1/2 season rental of an overrated "superstar" who has only gotten his team out of the first round of the playoffs once, and who has stated his intention to opt out of his max contract and become a free agent once the season is over. Not to mention taking on a gimpy knee chucker who has the rep of a locker room nightmare.

This is why the Suns will not make a trade with the Knicks and why the two teams are not good trade partners.
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Re: Knicks-Related Trade "THOUGHTS" Thread 

Post#3256 » by Marty McFly » Fri Dec 6, 2013 3:32 am

Rasho Brezec wrote:
DK-All Day wrote:Celtics fan here.....Would you guys do this trade:

Bradley,Olynyk,Green, BOS 2015,BRK 2016 for Anthony,J.R. Smith

Celtics get their second star to pair with Rondo and will look to add another this summer.Carmelo said that he wanted to play with Rondo

Knicks pick up some assets and rebuild.

Give us all of Brooklyn's picks and you can keep your young guys. We'll take your big contracts that expire before 2015 and Brooks who doesn't play for you.

we get celtics 2014, all of brooklyn's picks, I'd even throw tyson in.
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Re: Knicks-Related Trade "THOUGHTS" Thread 

Post#3257 » by riter » Fri Dec 6, 2013 6:25 am

I. thomas/Jimmer for Shump/BenO

or

Greivous/Jimmer for Shump/BenO/Coleworld and bring Tyler up from the Dleague
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Re: Knicks-Related Trade "THOUGHTS" Thread 

Post#3258 » by K_ick_God » Fri Dec 6, 2013 6:35 am

No possible way to swing JR and Ray for Lin?


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Re: Knicks-Related Trade "THOUGHTS" Thread 

Post#3259 » by ibraheim718 » Fri Dec 6, 2013 7:18 am

KnicksGod wrote:No possible way to swing JR and Ray for Lin?


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You're joking right?
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Re: Melo Trade Idea 

Post#3260 » by Nyk4lyfe » Fri Dec 6, 2013 7:49 am

Jwduff wrote:What do my fellow Knicks Fans think about this deal?

NYK-Chi-Cle

NY trades:
Melo
KMart

NY gets:
Taj Gibson
Waiters
Varejao
Chi 2015 1st
Cha 2014 1st

Cle Trades:
Varejao
Waiters

Cle Gets:
Deng

Chi Trades:
Gibson
Deng
Cha 2014 1st
Chi 2015 1st

Chi gets:
Melo
Kmart


fair. good stuff.

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