Knicks-Related Trade "THOUGHTS" Thread

[NOOB77]

I saw on the trade board a Smith for Thompson offer. I would be interested in that.

I'd do that in a heartbeat.

How about expand it to:

Amare Stoudemire, Iman Shumpert, & JR

for

Jason Thompson, Marcus Thornton, Jimmer Fredette, Travis Outlaw, Sacramento's 2014 2nd round pick

I don't think we can trade both Shump and Jr.

[shmeakone]

I saw on the trade board a Smith for Thompson offer. I would be interested in that.

I'd do that in a heartbeat.

How about expand it to:

Amare Stoudemire, Iman Shumpert, & JR

for

Jason Thompson, Marcus Thornton, Jimmer Fredette, Travis Outlaw, Sacramento's 2014 2nd round pick

I don't think we can trade both Shump and Jr.

We're getting back Marcus Thornton. Why not?

[sdballer]

I saw on the trade board a Smith for Thompson offer. I would be interested in that.

I'd do that in a heartbeat.

How about expand it to:

Amare Stoudemire, Iman Shumpert, & JR

for

Jason Thompson, Marcus Thornton, Jimmer Fredette, Travis Outlaw, Sacramento's 2014 2nd round pick

Why would Sac do that? They have reportedly been mentioned as liking Shump. But why would they take on Amare and JR to get him?

[shmeakone]

I saw on the trade board a Smith for Thompson offer. I would be interested in that.

I'd do that in a heartbeat.

How about expand it to:

Amare Stoudemire, Iman Shumpert, & JR

for

Jason Thompson, Marcus Thornton, Jimmer Fredette, Travis Outlaw, Sacramento's 2014 2nd round pick

Why would Sac do that? They have reportedly been mentioned as liking Shump. But why would they take on Amare and JR to get him?

Because they get rid of Thompson's contract. His contract is way worse than JRs.

He's gonna be getting payed nearly 7 mil in 16-17. JR has a player option in 15-16.

[sdballer]

I'd do that in a heartbeat.

How about expand it to:

Amare Stoudemire, Iman Shumpert, & JR

for

Jason Thompson, Marcus Thornton, Jimmer Fredette, Travis Outlaw, Sacramento's 2014 2nd round pick

Why would Sac do that? They have reportedly been mentioned as liking Shump. But why would they take on Amare and JR to get him?

Because they get rid of Thompson's contract. His contract is way worse than JRs.

He's gonna be getting payed nearly 7 mil in 16-17. JR has a player option in 15-16.

Only 2.5Mil is guaranteed in 16-17. That isn't enough savings to make a trade like this where they take on so much salary in underperforming players for next year.

[KF10]

JT's contract ain't all that bad. $6m/year. His last year is partially guaranteed. I mentioned this on the trade board about how feasible is a JT for Shump deal? A straight trade won't work due to contracts. So, what are the missing pieces can make this deal happen?

We do not want amare lol no thank you

[Rasho Brezec]

A normal GM would offer JR Spliff for Thompson or tell them to **** off. Shumpert for Thompson would be an idiotic trade and since it's Dolan and Leon Rose is Thompson's agent, you can bet Mills is forced to make it happen. Luckily, the only other combination that works is including Felton and even Mills is not that dumb to give him up without having another PG solution lined up.

[KF10]

Luckily, the only other combination that works is including Felton and even Mills is not that dumb to give him up without having another PG solution lined up.

The Jimmer

/ close thread

[R-DAWG]

I think the Knicks should look to move Felton to Dallas or OKC for a first. Addition by subtraction and a pick in the deepest draft in a Long time. We should also try to move Beno for a second round pick.

why would Dallas or OKC want Felton. Dallas has Calderon/Harris/Larkin and OKC has Westbrook/Jackson/Fisher. No need for Felton.

How about a Felton for Jarret Jack swap? Cleveland sheds Jack's deal and NY upgrades at PG.

[PekTheDestroyer]

Has anyone mentioned Goran Dragic? He's likely available if the Knicks can put together the right package for him and he's a pretty nice upgrade over Felton.

Also, there were rumors of the Suns being interested in Shumpert last year, so he'd most likely be involved in any deal for Dragic.

[Saciid11]

Derozan, Lowry, Johnson, Fields, Thunder 2014 2nd rounder for Amare, Felton, Shumpert

Would you do it?

Hahaaa why would Toronto make that trade .... Derozen or Lowery alone is worth more then all those players combined .... Amare

[Joe Curry]

Ok I have a trade involving Melo and Griffith here it is

Knicks trade

Carmelo Anthony

Knicks get

Deandre Jordan
Jared Dudley
Jeremy Lin

Clippers trade

Blake Griffith
Deandre Jordan
Jered Dudley

Clippers get

Carmelo Anthony
Omer Asik

Rockets trade

Jeremy Lin
Omer Asik

Rockets get

Blake Griffith

Now picks will be involved however not from us and more likely too us . So a first from the Clippers in 2016 & 2 1st from Houston this year and another like 2015 when we actually have a pick . I don't now but where giving up thee best player in the deal. Houston is giving up magic beans & the Clippers or being well compensated so thoughts strangely enough did on espn trade machine every team it says loses on the deal . Knicks lose by 3 gms the clippers 8 gms and the Rockets by 2

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[Marty McFly]

Derozan, Lowry, Johnson, Fields, Thunder 2014 2nd rounder for Amare, Felton, Shumpert

Would you do it?

Hahaaa why would Toronto make that trade .... Derozen or Lowery alone is worth more then all those players combined .... Amare

welp, it makes them worse, and they want wiggins so there's that.


i for one will believe the nba is rigged if they do land wiggins.

bron to leaveland, rose to the bulls wiggins to t.dot? c'mon.

[SuperflyKnick]

We need a upgrade at PG ... Felton is unable to set up teamates for any easy shots, his defense his so bad that opposing guards have career nights, his offense inconsistent with his ugly jumper and no driving skills, i mean he does nothing a starting NBA pg should do... He dribbles for 18 seconds and then passes to teamates who have to hoist up contested shots to bail him out... I mean he is the main reason even players like Anthony look like chuckers

[moocow007]

I'd do that in a heartbeat.

How about expand it to:

Amare Stoudemire, Iman Shumpert, & JR

for

Jason Thompson, Marcus Thornton, Jimmer Fredette, Travis Outlaw, Sacramento's 2014 2nd round pick

I don't think we can trade both Shump and Jr.

We're getting back Marcus Thornton. Why not?

Marcus Thornton is owed $8 and $8.5 million respectively to do basically what JR Smith does. JR Smith may be shooting poorly this season at 35% from the field but Thornton isn't doing much better himself at 36% from the field. Thornton is also a worse defender than Smith and is as big a chucker that takes more shots than he should....just like Smith.

And whatever salary relief is gotten by moving JR Smith's $6.4 million on the book for the 2015-2016 season (by replacing him with Marcus Thornton) is replaced by Thompson's $6.5 million guaranteed for 2015-2016. Thompson the player has stagnated and is currently in the midst of the worst season of his career putting up career lows in pretty much every single category. Way too little for a guy who has 4 years and nearly $30 million left on his contract.

Jimmer Fredette has done poo so far and is worth that.

Travis Outlaw is also poo...even at just $3 million a season now.

[moocow007]

Derozan, Lowry, Johnson, Fields, Thunder 2014 2nd rounder for Amare, Felton, Shumpert

Would you do it?

Hahaaa why would Toronto make that trade .... Derozen or Lowery alone is worth more then all those players combined .... Amare

Cause they get to move Derozan's contract?

Lowry has done about as well as Felton in their careers (it's actually a bit uncanny). They are both stocky PG's that aren't the best at running an offense nor particular good defenders, but can use their bulk to put some points on the board and make due as a starting PG (of sorts). Both has had one strong year in their otherwise mediocrish careers playing in an uptempo (high octane) system (Felton with D'Antoni in Stoudemire's 1st full season in NY, Lowry that half a year in Houston).

Obviously Toronto gives up more talent but they are also giving up the most talent in the Rudy Gay deal and if all that determines a winner in a trade is talent, Isiah Thomas would have won a lot of trades that he fubbed.

[CoachD]

Just to clarify........ Toronto isn't looking to just "move" Derozan's contract. He has improved every year he's been a pro, and many believe that his game will just get better now that the black hole has been dealt to Sac.

I don't care what stats say ... Lowry is far superior player to Felton on both sides of the ball. To say he's not a good defender is crazy. Most PGs in the NBA completely suck on D, and Lowry happens to be one of the few who actually can keep his man in front of him.

If Amare was expiring THIS year .. maybe
if SHUMP was half as good as people make him sound ... maybe
If NY had a pick to toss in ... maybe

but none of those maybes are reality, so Toronto would not do this deal ...

[SuperflyKnick]

Derozan, Lowry, Johnson, Fields, Thunder 2014 2nd rounder for Amare, Felton, Shumpert

Would you do it?

Hahaaa why would Toronto make that trade .... Derozen or Lowery alone is worth more then all those players combined .... Amare

Cause they get to move Derozan's contract?

Lowry has done about as well as Felton in their careers (it's actually a bit uncanny). They are both stocky PG's that aren't the best at running an offense nor particular good defenders, but can use their bulk to put some points on the board and make due as a starting PG (of sorts). Both has had one strong year in their otherwise mediocrish careers playing in an uptempo (high octane) system (Felton with D'Antoni in Stoudemire's 1st full season in NY, Lowry that half a year in Houston).

Obviously Toronto gives up more talent but they are also giving up the most talent in the Rudy Gay deal and if all that determines a winner in a trade is talent, Isiah Thomas would have won a lot of trades that he fubbed.

I agree with most of your points but dont agree on the fact lowry is not a good defender.... Lowry best aspect is he is a beast defensively which automatically makes us better then with i lost 20 water weight felton

[Boarder Patrol]

Would you guys pull the trigger on JR and Felton for Nash, straight up? Leaves only Timmy on the books in 2015, possibly Shump and Melo too obviosuly. If we could have all three for around 30 million, we could build a really nice team.

[R-DAWG]

Would you guys pull the trigger on JR and Felton for Nash, straight up? Leaves only Timmy on the books in 2015, possibly Shump and Melo too obviosuly. If we could have all three for around 30 million, we could build a really nice team.

i'd probably do it, but I feel like JR still has some value to a contender. Also, don't think the Lakers want JR since they have Nick Young, who is JR with less tattoo's and no experience with Rihanna. If we could send JR to a 3rd team, say OKC to play the Harden role, in exchange get the pick they are owed from Dallas and send expiring to the Lakers. Lakers would save $6m in 2014 space space while upgrading the team, aka, they should also send an asset our way, say a future 1.

NYK:
Steve Nash
Future Dal 1st rd pick (from OKC - top 20 protected)
Future LAL pick (2019)

LAL:
Ray Felton
Expiring Contracts

OKC:
JR Smith

The question is weather we could then flip Nash to Toronto for Kyle Lowry, Landry Fields and our 1st rd pick in 2016 returned. Toronto has gone after Nash in the past and there is doubt they would the Canadian to end his career in his home country. In addition, they clear Landry Fields $8.5m salary next year at the expense of a late 1st. Not sure what the market will be for Lowry since he's a free agent after the season and if he plays like it worth resigning him it could cost $8-10 million per year. The Knicks would also benefit from having Landry Fields $8.5m expiring and 2016 pick to shop in the offseason.